The Future President, Donald Trump

You know what. NONE of any of this was even my point, so I'm not even going to argue about it. I won't embrace their lifestyle and I DO have that right. BUT, I will continue to do my best not to judge, criticize , or condemn anyone... Did you get that... ANYONE regardless of their beliefs, lifestyle choices, skin color, race, whatever. As I said before, be assured, I won't be opening a bakery or any other business that would put me, OR THEM, in a position to compromise what is believed.

And why? Because this all is so STUPID, POINTLESS, and UNPRODUCTIVE. Y'all wanna keep sceaming and crying about how unjust this world is... Well news flash... It's pretty much always been like that and I had absolutely nothing to do with it. I'm just fighting my way through this life like everyone else, trying to survive, and make sense of as much as possible of it all as I can.

So if y'all wanna sit on your high seat looking down at me simply because I disagree... But have still condemned no one for what they believe, go right on ahead. You may join all the self righteous, judgemental Christians in the very position they have been in for so long. Maybe they will give you a tissue... But I doubt you'd take it anyway.

Sorry if I am sounding a bit snarky today. I got zero sleep last night and haven't eaten for two days. Lol That does tend to make one a wee bit grumpy. And the / thing... I was wondering about it... But not too hard. I hit that darn button multiple times while writing a post. It's a tad bit annoying for sure.

Thank you Set. I do appreciate the information.

Baking a cake is against their beliefs? That is the kind of nonsense you seem to have to resort to. Baking a cake doesn't mean you support someone else's beliefs. It means you baked a f-ing cake.

Learn the facts of the cases.
http://aclu-co.org/court-rules-bakery-illegally-discriminated-against-gay-couple/


http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/jul/04/oregon-bakery-same-sex-marriage-lawsuit

Nope. What you said is nonsense. Once again you are playing the victim. Not interested. Thanks anyway.

You're a bit sensitive for a public forum debating politics I think.

Not really. Just tired and hungry right now. Oh... And yes, I am a wee bit irritated too that most everyone is so much more concerned about getting their voice heard about all my so called judgemental attitude while being completely unwilling to even TRY to see what my point really was. I am human after all. Lol

They were asked to bake a cake. They weren't asked to bless a marriage. Baking a cake doesn't do much of anything other than mix flour and sugar. It isn't a religious practice.

By the way, the baker you are defending said they would happily bake a cake for the marriage of two dogs but they wouldn't for the marriage of two men. It seems you are playing the victim when you defend someone that clearly is discriminating and it really has nothing to do with the practice of their religion.

The cake issue has already been put to bed because the law said it was illegal for the cake owners to discriminate based on sexual orientation.

As just an academic question, wonder if the same law would apply for any other cake an owner would object to? Maybe a really offensive cake? Not to compared, just wondering if owners of pastry stores would be required to make any kind of cake no matter how offensive. I admit, I would quit if it was something like a Nazi cake or just a nasty looking cake.

Now THAT is a good point. Thank you for pointing that out. I am sure I needed to hear that.



I actually wasn't defending anything other than what I personally have believed, I was just using that situation as an example. And its not the only one out there. As far as them... If I had known that I wouldn't have even bothered using that as an example because I certainly don't agree with that. AT ALL. Nor would I ever do or say something like that.

Y'all seem to have this idea that I think Christians are the only right thinking people in this world or something. Well, let me clarify something right here and now. Anyone who sits themself in a judgemental position like that, thinking their better than everyone else because of what they believe has zero respect from me. Zero. It's hurtful and it's wrong and I will never agree with anyone doing it. Including myself.

Oh come on revelette! You wouldn't make a poop cake?! Lol Joking. I wouldn't either. Yuck.

Sure. You believe that unless they are a Christian baker. In that case you have argued they have every right to be judgmental in their position as a baker as to who doesn't fit in their version of Christianity.

Thinking more along the lines like a profane cake.

I am really curious of the answer, not bein facetious.

In case you missed it... Which apparently you did... So let me spell it out for you... You actually made a VERY good point in your last post... That caused me to go...

Huh... Parados may be right here. My God it is just making a cake. Holy crap. I CAN be ignorant in my beliefs sometimes too. Oops. And now... Just to bring the point all the way home...

Parados... You are right. It IS just a flipping cake. I am sorry for speaking out of ignorance in that case. I will try to do better in the future.

The best I've got to offer you at this moment regarding your question is this...

If the cake offends someone... Anyone... Yes, at some point it will be brought to the table. And that's not to eat the cake either. That's just to argue about how offensive it is until it gets moldy... Lol

Nobody has asked you to embrace a gay lifestyle. You're advocating discrimination, you're packaging it up as freedom, but it's discrimination.

I'm not trying to set myself up as anything. I'm just arguing for equal treatment of all citizens according to the law.

I promise I will try to give you a much more honest answer to your question just as soon as I can get some sleep... And a little bit of food in my tummy. I tend to be much more clear minded in that state. However, right now, I am so tired I am borderline delusional... Almost... and have to go make an hour long trip. So... If anyone would care to say a prayer for or send out some good wishes for a safe trip I would greatly appreciate it. Ta ta for now.

Please read my last response to parados. I have actually changed my position on it all. Don't know how he/she did it... But somehow the correct information finally made it into this thick skull of mine.

Here's a couple of prank cakes. A rangers fan cuts into his cake only to find rivals Celtic's colours inside.



Same with this one. Argentina on the outside, Germany inside.

As for disgusting cakes. Kid's literature covered it a while ago.

Miracles do happen... :-)