OmSigDAVID
 
  0  
Fri 11 Feb, 2011 10:59 am
@H2O MAN,
plainoldme wrote:
I seriously doubt that the Tea Party was ever grass roots.
H2O MAN wrote:
Proving once again that you are an idiot.
U can 't expect much from Prof. Plain
(but she DOES have a mental age above 3 years).
RABEL222
 
  2  
Fri 11 Feb, 2011 12:55 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
At least she is smarter than you and water man!
OmSigDAVID
 
  0  
Fri 11 Feb, 2011 02:00 pm
@RABEL222,
Maybe u think that is humorous.
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Fri 11 Feb, 2011 02:14 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
It's not only humorous, but factual.
OmSigDAVID
 
  -2  
Fri 11 Feb, 2011 02:22 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:
It's not only humorous, but factual.
Spoken as a man of TRUE ignorance.
cicerone imposter
 
  2  
Fri 11 Feb, 2011 02:25 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
DAvid, People like you don't understand what TRUE ignorance is, because you are one. For you to claim someone else as ignorant only proves the point.
OmSigDAVID
 
  -2  
Fri 11 Feb, 2011 04:16 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:
DAvid, People like you don't understand what TRUE ignorance is,
because you are one. For you to claim someone else as ignorant only proves the point.
It woud be easier for u to understand how IGNORANT you are, if u were less stupid.

Try to develop your mind so that u can more fully appreciate
how abysmally contemptible u are and
the near infinite depth and breadth of your IGNORANCE.

Good luck with that.
Please keep us up to date
on how well r are progressing on this project.





David

JTT
 
  1  
Fri 11 Feb, 2011 08:20 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
An ex-lawyer and a mensan. Go figure!
cicerone imposter
 
  3  
Fri 11 Feb, 2011 08:28 pm
@JTT,
David can't seem to figure out why so many on a2k challenge what he says. Compared to him, I get very little challenge - except for the ad hominems that David et al can resort to.

plainoldme
 
  1  
Fri 11 Feb, 2011 08:42 pm
@RABEL222,
Thanks!
0 Replies
 
okie
 
  2  
Fri 11 Feb, 2011 08:45 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:
David can't seem to figure out why so many on a2k challenge what he says. Compared to him, I get very little challenge - except for the ad hominems that David et al can resort to.
I am being very honest, ci, to point out to you that I would guess that few care to waste time debating you anymore, because you will only reply with ad hominems, not serious arguments or serious debate. I say this - trying to be as honest and kind to you as I can, as you and I have argued numerous times. I am being honest too to make the observation that your posts seem to be resorting more and more to ad hominems, or personal attacks, instead of substantive and credible arguments. It is in fact ironic that you accuse others of ad hominems, when you seem to be king of that practice lately.

I mean no offence to you, ci, as I perceive over the past couple of years or so I've been here that you are probably a nice guy, but I wonder if you simply are getting more crotchety with age?
plainoldme
 
  1  
Fri 11 Feb, 2011 11:52 pm
@okie,
Quote:
I would guess that few care to waste time debating you anymore


The person who jousts the most with CI is you.
0 Replies
 
plainoldme
 
  1  
Sat 12 Feb, 2011 12:02 am
What the right won't admit about Reagan
What happens when a caller confronts Rush Limbaugh with the Gipper's actual record?
BY GENE LYONS

AP/Salon

Nothing better symbolized Ronald Reagan's 100th birthday celebration than that it should fall on Super Bowl Sunday, with Air Force jets roaring unseen over a hermetically sealed stadium, almost, but not quite, drowning out a tarted-up former Mouseketeer who mangled the lyrics of the Star-Spangled Banner.

It was all there: the bombast, the grandiose self-congratulation, the willful blindness, the elevation of showbiz spectacle to patriotic rite. After which, thankfully, a pretty good NFL football game broke out. It's for pseudo-events like the Super Bowl, I believe, that a merciful God gave us high-def DVRs.

How fitting that George W. Bush, the late President Reagan's vicar on Earth, was seated in a front-row celebrity box to witness the spectacle. Reagan's genius as a politician was that he repackaged and sold to millions of Americans the comforting daydreams of the 1950s. Not the '50s as they were -- no Korean War, no Army-McCarthy hearings, no lynchings, no John Birch Society denouncing commie traitor "Ike the Kike" -- but as depicted in TV sitcoms like "Ozzie and Harriet, "Leave It to Beaver" and "The Andy Griffith Show."

Playing the president, Reagan essentially recapitulated the Robert Young role in "Father Knows Best" -- firm but fair, and unfailingly optimistic. True, Reagan had a disconcerting habit of conflating film scripts with reality: talking feelingly, for example, of his experiences liberating Nazi death camps at the end of World War II, which never happened.

Captain Reagan of the First Motion Picture Unit served in California for the duration of the war. But he got away with exaggerating, biographer Edmund Morris believes, because he'd spent weeks editing raw film footage from Buchenwald. His emotional reaction was sincere.

To an America still nursing a Woodstock, Kent State, Vietnam and Watergate hangover, Reagan's performance was reassuring. Although his personal coolness was notorious -- aides wondered if he knew their names, and even his children complained that he treated them like strangers -- the character Reagan played in the Oval Office was hard to dislike.

That's not to say Reagan did no harm. George W. Bush's epic failures came about largely because, unlike Reagan, whose fealty to right-wing ideology was at best inconsistent, he put dogmatic "Reaganism" into action.

Hence the Tea Party, an otherworldly faction greatly reminiscent of daffy '60s leftists who argued that Marxism hadn't really failed because true Communism had never been tried.

Consider a telling exchange on -- where else? -- Rush Limbaugh's program last week. Presumably by decoying Limbaugh's screeners, whose job it is to prevent the host from being confronted by anybody who knows what they're talking about, liberal blogger Mike Stark got through.

Stark said that he couldn't understand why conservatives idolize Ronald Reagan. He listed his reasons: "Instead of privatizing Social Security," Stark said, "he raised taxes. We're all paying higher taxes today out of our paychecks every single week because he decided to save Social Security."

Talking over Limbaugh's constant interruptions, he continued. "The Greenspan Commission. He signed it into law, and it raised taxes on Social Security."

"What?" Limbaugh blustered. "Wait, you're talking about Reagan or Clinton?"

"I'm talking about Reagan. Reagan did that. He raised taxes on Social Security. He negotiated with terrorists, sending -- over and over again -- arms to Iran in exchange for hostages."

That would be the Iran-Contra scandal that probably would have ended in Reagan's impeachment had he been a Democrat.

Stark went on: Reagan (humanely) gave amnesty to millions of undocumented aliens. When terrorists bombed U.S. Marine headquarters in Beirut, killing 283 Americans, he (wisely) pulled out of Lebanon's civil war.

"He's a tax-raiser, an amnesty-giver, a cut-and-runner, and he negotiated with terrorists," Stark continued. "Why is he a hero to conservatives?"

Limbaugh was beside himself. "Where did you get this silly notion that Reagan raised taxes on Social Security? What websites do you read? Where did you pick that up?"

"Look up the Greenspan Commission," Stark advised. "It's not too hard to find. It's a matter of history."

He's right. Reagan increased payroll taxes in 1983. History records that, alarmed by spiraling deficits, he signed tax increases during six of his eight years in office. Even so, his administration tripled the national debt, to almost $3 trillion.

Consistent with the GOP's faith-based War on Arithmetic, his acolyte Dubya then redoubled the debt to $10.4 trillion, leaving a $1.4 trillion yearly deficit.

Note to the Tea Party: Had President Clinton's tax policies remained in place since 2001, the national debt GOP politicians pretend to agonize over would no longer exist.

But Stark never got that far, because Limbaugh hit the mute button, then delivered a lengthy soliloquy about how liberals can't be reasoned with, only defeated. Is there a bigger faker in American life?

"Ronald Reagan," Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., has ruefully observed, "would have a hard time getting elected as a Republican today."

There's no doubt about it.

Arkansas Democrat-Gazette columnist Gene Lyons is a National Magazine Award winner and co-author of "The Hunting of the President" (St. Martin's Press, 2000)
JTT
 
  0  
Sat 12 Feb, 2011 12:18 am
@plainoldme,
Absolutely ******* priceless, POM! Have you read this, Okie, Finn, Gob, Ican, MM, ... ?

I remember once seeing a video or a TV program, where Rush filled in for some TV personality. He was booed off the stage, the houselights were dimmed to try to get the angry crowd, angry with his blatant lies, to leave the studio.

The end of Rush's TV career.

Instead of these dead boring superbowl games, they should have huge televised debates between, say, Rush and Mike Stark; Sean Banality, Bill O and anyone with a brain.

Here's another situation like that where a lying conservative got stripped naked. He thought that he was going to be able to use his guest to rack up cheap political points.

Guess what happened, yup, he had to kill the conversation. His bluster didn't match history very well. Listen to his lame excuses for doing so.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BAFb97L3KU
OmSigDAVID
 
  -1  
Sat 12 Feb, 2011 05:56 am
@plainoldme,
That post proves conclusively that Plain
is able to copy n paste leftist propaganda !
plainoldme
 
  1  
Sat 12 Feb, 2011 09:54 am
@JTT,
Thanks for the vote of confidence. Since this inbred group keeps writing the same things over and over and over, I think bringing in material from people who have access to real archives and whose job it is to analyze pumps life into this often stale forum.
0 Replies
 
plainoldme
 
  1  
Sat 12 Feb, 2011 09:55 am
@OmSigDAVID,
No, it proves that I am one of the independent thinkers here.
OmSigDAVID
 
  0  
Sat 12 Feb, 2011 10:51 am
@plainoldme,
plainoldme wrote:
No, it proves that I am one of the independent thinkers here.
Your mind is worse off than I thought.
U post someone else 's work
and having done so, u claim to be an independent thinker;
not independent of the author of that article, Plain.





David
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Sat 12 Feb, 2011 10:59 am
@OmSigDAVID,
David, The simple idea that anybody posts an article on a2k with the credit to the author shows you are dumb and ignorant! pom never took credit for that article, but you "think" she did. Case closed.
OmSigDAVID
 
  -1  
Sat 12 Feb, 2011 11:06 am
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:
David, The simple idea that anybody posts an article on a2k with the credit to the author
shows you are dumb and ignorant! pom never took credit for that article, but you "think" she did. Case closed.
U don 't get the point of my post, imposter. That is because u r too dum.

Get smarter !!!
 

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