JTT
 
  -1  
Wed 9 Feb, 2011 12:24 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
Not enough police power in it for your liking, eh Om? You'd rather ruin people's lives with false accusations and phony Senate hearings. That's more your style.
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JPB
 
  2  
Wed 9 Feb, 2011 02:01 pm
@revelette,
This is a pretty good assessment (imo) about the origins of the tea party movement and how it became the Tea Party

Quote:
The Tea Party's Four Major Themes

The Tea Party has four major characteristics, two of which were central to its inception, and two others which emerged as the primaries became "open season" against the government and the Tea Party attracted people who had other agendas.

1 Fiscal Responsibility: The Tea Party was born out of concerns about Federal spending, the national debt, deficit reduction, taxes, and capital infusions for banks and automobile manufacturers.... Fiscal responsibility remains a major theme - both for the Tea Party and the country as a whole - as the US will continue to face deficit, debt, spending, and tax policy choices during and beyond the current recession. These issues were the policy cornerstone of the movement, and are legitimate topics for a national debate on the priorities of government.

2. The Role of Government: Dovetailing with fiscal issues, the ideological cornerstone of the Tea Party is its belief that the scope of the Federal government should be severely reduced...The Tea Party objects to two of the government's fundamental social responsibility roles that have increased since the 1930s: providing a social safety-net, and regulating industries which have national impacts on health, safety, the environment, consumer protection, fairness, and the economy. This philosophy is also reflected in the Republicans' recently released "Pledge to America" document.

3. Anger: Anger: Many Tea Party votes were cast to protest the status quo, rejecting Republican office-holders who were not stridently opposed to TARP (even though it was crafted by a Republican president), the economic stimulus, and health care and financial industry reforms. The common denominator among Tea Party candidates who rode anger to victory was that they did not hold offices which would have saddled them to the ugly economy of the past three years, even if that resulted in nominees who are inexperienced, have shortcomings that usually inhibit electability, or hold views that are far outside of the mainstream....Tea Party candidates have grasped for positions to differentiate themselves from the mainstream, despite consequences that even they would probably abhor if their proposals were to be enacted.

4.Demonization: As the Tea Party gained traction, it became an outlet for resentments and malevolence that scorn 2010 America. The movement was hijacked by those emboldened to use it to spread anti-immigrant, racist, anti-gay, and anti-Islamic sentiments and policies. The demonization of demographic groups was certainly outside of the original scope of the Tea Party, and yet, its electoral value insulated it from rebuke by usually responsible leaders.


emphasis added.
cicerone imposter
 
  0  
Wed 9 Feb, 2011 03:01 pm
@JPB,
That would also include "pro-lifers."
revelette
 
  1  
Thu 10 Feb, 2011 07:53 am
@JPB,
Personally I think you are kind of confusing the libertarian party with the tea partiers who first came into the public spotlight during the health care reform protest. Perhaps the tea party has always been divided between those who came from the green or libertarian party and the conservative party. Those two groups have always been divided when it came to like moral issues and security and military but agreed on social programs and things like that. (don't explain it well but maybe you can make it out) So maybe the conservatives wing of the tea party just got louder and drowned out the libertarians.

Also, not everyone agrees on every single issue even within their own party. I know I don't.
JPB
 
  2  
Thu 10 Feb, 2011 08:34 am
@revelette,
I only have a minute before I run out the door, but the original concept of the tea party movement was that it was "party-less". Meaning it took its name from the Boston tea party, not from a political party. That changed when Big Money got behind what was a true grass roots movement and made it into a platform for the far right-wing of the Republican party.

There are still many fiscal conservative, social liberal independents (raises hand) who endorse the issues raised in the beginning, but don't call themselves part of what has become the Tea Party (political party).
plainoldme
 
  1  
Thu 10 Feb, 2011 08:38 am
@JPB,
I seriously doubt that the Tea Party was ever grass roots.
revelette
 
  1  
Thu 10 Feb, 2011 09:14 am
@JPB,
Quote:
I only have a minute before I run out the door, but the original concept of the tea party movement was that it was "party-less". Meaning it took its name from the Boston tea party, not from a political party.


Yea, I have heard that.
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H2O MAN
 
  0  
Thu 10 Feb, 2011 10:20 am
@plainoldme,
plainoldme wrote:

I seriously doubt that the Tea Party was ever grass roots.


Proving once again that you are an idiot.
IRFRANK
 
  3  
Thu 10 Feb, 2011 03:36 pm
@H2O MAN,
Quote:
I seriously doubt that the Tea Party was ever grass roots.




Quote:
Proving once again that you are an idiot.



He's not an idiot, nor is he naive.

If you think the tea party was influenced by anyone other than the big money interests who saw it as a vehicle to create negative publicity toward the current administration, I want what you are smoking.

On never mind, it's probably soaked in gun oil.

cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Thu 10 Feb, 2011 03:50 pm
@IRFRANK,
Mr. Green Mr. Green Mr. Green
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H2O MAN
 
  -1  
Fri 11 Feb, 2011 06:30 am
@IRFRANK,
You think you are clever and correct, but you are wrong on both
counts. Keep smoking your lucky strikes and beating your wife.

The T.E.A. Party movement is grass roots - deal with it.
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H2O MAN
 
  -1  
Fri 11 Feb, 2011 06:31 am
@cicerone imposter,
Are you a 'pro-deather'?
farmerman
 
  1  
Fri 11 Feb, 2011 06:34 am
Its interesting that, with the installation of the several new Teabagger congressmen that the GOP is eating its own paws. The recent votes show that teabaggers are more inetersted in fighting with the GOP than make thwir points.

Maybe the Dems will just have to sit back and let em eat each other.
electronicmail
 
  0  
Fri 11 Feb, 2011 06:41 am
@farmerman,
We got differences big time. Watch my smoke.
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H2O MAN
 
  -4  
Fri 11 Feb, 2011 06:41 am
@farmerman,
Typical fistrider response.
hingehead
 
  3  
Fri 11 Feb, 2011 07:17 am
@H2O MAN,
Quote:
Typical fistrider response.


Heaven forbid a brain would ever intervene in your responses.
H2O MAN
 
  -3  
Fri 11 Feb, 2011 08:03 am
@hingehead,
chickenhead with another fistrider response.
electronicmail
 
  0  
Fri 11 Feb, 2011 08:06 am
@H2O MAN,
H2O MAN wrote:

Are you a 'pro-deather'?

This about the death penalty?

I support it.
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hingehead
 
  0  
Fri 11 Feb, 2011 08:24 am
@H2O MAN,
Quote:
chickenhead with another fistrider response.

Your mouth feels so good around my cock.
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OmSigDAVID
 
  0  
Fri 11 Feb, 2011 10:55 am
@farmerman,
farmerman wrote:
Its interesting that, with the installation of the several
new Teabagger congressmen that the GOP is eating its own paws.
What a strange way to speak; going for incomprehensibility, I guess.




farmerman wrote:
The recent votes show that teabaggers are more inetersted
in fighting with the GOP than make thwir points.
Its a conservative-based rebellion. Keep the bad guys in line;
nothing rong with that.





David

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