cicerone imposter
 
  2  
Sun 6 Feb, 2011 05:41 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
David, You waste a lot of cyberspace with your b.s. which doesn't say much in terms of using proper English or the content of your posts.
OmSigDAVID
 
  -2  
Sun 6 Feb, 2011 05:42 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:
David, You waste a lot of cyberspace with your b.s. which doesn't say much in terms of using proper English or the content of your posts.
U are simply incapable of understanding, imposter.
For that reason: u are ignorant.
plainoldme
 
  1  
Sun 6 Feb, 2011 06:10 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
Quote:
To ease the burden of future generations of Americans,
we shoud have the spelling of English words
fully in harmony with how thay r pronounced.



Should we spell them as people from Georgia pronounce them or as people from Maine speak them?
plainoldme
 
  1  
Sun 6 Feb, 2011 06:14 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
Quote:
owever, on re-consideration, I have realized
that altho MOST of English is already fonetic in its spelling,
there is a small minority of atavistic words
that used to be foneticly spelled several centuries
ago, in Chaucer 's time, but r now inconsistent
with spoken use--wastefully so;


Despite the fact that Shakespeare spoke and wrote Early Modern English, some of his rhymes indicate that his English is not pronounced as today's English is pronounced.

Chaucer's English requires translation to be understood.

With my Midwestern accent, I pronounce some words with a clear short A that are not spelled with a short A.

Of course, this argument has gone on before. You refuse to recognize that you are incorrect.
plainoldme
 
  1  
Sun 6 Feb, 2011 06:16 pm
@cicerone imposter,
I wonder if that poor Chinese woman came away from his tutoring session upset that he talked down to her.
cicerone imposter
 
  2  
Sun 6 Feb, 2011 06:39 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
If I'm ignorant, you're an idiot. However, your calling me ignorant doesn't prove much, since your opinions have very little meaning and no substance - just your ego that tries to escape from your isolation.
OmSigDAVID
 
  0  
Sun 6 Feb, 2011 07:43 pm
@plainoldme,
Quote:
To ease the burden of future generations of Americans,
we shoud have the spelling of English words
fully in harmony with how thay r pronounced.

plainoldme wrote:
Should we spell them as people from Georgia pronounce them or as people from Maine speak them?
No. New York County, i.e., Manhattan or in Queens County.
There is really not a great difference
between how we speak nationwide.
We can bridge the gulf between variations with little difficulty.
I am 100% confident that this WILL occur
and it will be tremendously easier for future children
to spell, effortlessly, like the Spanish do.

Teddy Roosevelt was a very popular President,
but HE was ridiculed for his efforts in favor
of fonetic spelling. I 've gotten the exact same
ridicule. He coud take it; I can take it,
for the children.





David
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OmSigDAVID
 
  0  
Sun 6 Feb, 2011 07:48 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:
If I'm ignorant, you're an idiot.
U are ignorant of the fact that u are ignorant.
If I were an idiot, i.e., a person of a mental age below 3 years,
then I 'd not be able to type this,
nor coud I read your message.
U are IGNORANT of that.


cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Sun 6 Feb, 2011 07:53 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
I would surmise that some 3 year olds have better English skills than you.
OmSigDAVID
 
  0  
Sun 6 Feb, 2011 08:01 pm
@plainoldme,
Quote:
owever, on re-consideration, I have realized
that altho MOST of English is already fonetic in its spelling,
there is a small minority of atavistic words
that used to be foneticly spelled several centuries
ago, in Chaucer 's time, but r now inconsistent
with spoken use--wastefully so;


plainoldme wrote:
Despite the fact that Shakespeare spoke and wrote Early Modern English, some of his rhymes indicate that his English is not pronounced as today's English is pronounced.

Chaucer's English requires translation to be understood.

With my Midwestern accent, I pronounce some words with a clear short A that are not spelled with a short A.

Of course, this argument has gone on before. You refuse to recognize that you are incorrect.
Is it your argument that because of these
impediments, your Midwestern accent,
however slight thay may be,
we shoud persist with inflicting the errors
of the past onto innocent future generations, yet unborn ???


There is absolutely NO reason to add the letters UGH
to the word tho. Give them a break. Show some mercy.





David
OmSigDAVID
 
  0  
Sun 6 Feb, 2011 08:03 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:
I would surmise that some 3 year olds have better English skills than you.
U are just blabbering incoherently.
What is the reason that u bother?
What good comes from that???
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OmSigDAVID
 
  0  
Sun 6 Feb, 2011 08:17 pm
@plainoldme,
plainoldme wrote:
I wonder if that poor Chinese woman came away
from his tutoring session upset that he talked down to her.
Y do u say that, Plain????
Will u explain??

I took good care of her.
I gave her a free honeymoon in Las Vegas for 2 weeks,
putting her & my friend, Don, up in a honeymoon suite
at the Golden Nugget and gave them gambling $$.
I took them both to a gunnery range
and rented the case for them
(for all of us) and let them both
work out with many fully automatic weapons,
a lot of submachineguns, revolvers and pistols,
and a good time was had by all.

It made a good contrast against Red China.
(She had told me that it was bleak & dreary.)

Please explain the reasons
that u have accused me of being impolite to her,
if u don 't mind. I wanna hear this.





David
plainoldme
 
  1  
Tue 8 Feb, 2011 12:13 am
@cicerone imposter,
My kids had better English skills at age three than the former mad boy in the attic does at 70+ or however old he might me.

The one that speaks six languages had better English skills at 17 months.
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plainoldme
 
  1  
Tue 8 Feb, 2011 12:15 am
@OmSigDAVID,
Your syntax is the only thing worse than the spelling you would impose upon America, Mr. Libertarian.
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plainoldme
 
  1  
Tue 8 Feb, 2011 12:16 am
@OmSigDAVID,
I consider Las Vegas low class. To send anyone on a honeymoon there is to insult them.
plainoldme
 
  1  
Tue 8 Feb, 2011 12:19 am
By david's "reasoning" or what for him passes as reasoning, we should all pronounce that huge desert in North Africa in this way: sa-ha-ra. We need to abandon our English vocalization: sa-HAIR-a. After all, Sahara is an Arabic and not an English word.

Anyone have other suggestions?
OmSigDAVID
 
  0  
Tue 8 Feb, 2011 01:00 am
@plainoldme,
plainoldme wrote:
I consider Las Vegas low class.
To send anyone on a honeymoon there is to insult them.
Thay were not affected by your opinion.
I bet u 'd prefer the delights of Red China
or North Korea, to the freedom of Las Vegas.
OmSigDAVID
 
  1  
Tue 8 Feb, 2011 01:03 am
@plainoldme,
plainoldme wrote:
By david's "reasoning" or what for him passes as reasoning, we should all pronounce that huge desert in North Africa in this way: sa-ha-ra. We need to abandon our English vocalization: sa-HAIR-a. After all, Sahara is an Arabic and not an English word.

Anyone have other suggestions?
It has never occurred to me
(nor to anyone of my acquaintance that I know of)
to pronounce it: "sa-HAIR-a".

I have not heard it said that way.
I have only heard it the other way.





David
plainoldme
 
  1  
Tue 8 Feb, 2011 07:38 am
@OmSigDAVID,
Freedom of Las Vegas? Elvis imitators, ridiculous displays of plastic filled breasts, gambling. So, it is a sign of freedom to be sleazy in your book? Ah, the wisdom of a Mensan!
plainoldme
 
  1  
Tue 8 Feb, 2011 07:51 am
@OmSigDAVID,
You never heard it said "sa -Hair-ra?" That represents -- with out diacritical marks which are not available on the software that supports a2k -- the way Americans pronounce it. They do not use the Arabic pronunciation with three equally weighted syllables with the same A sound in each.

Let's see if I can cut and paste the American diacritical marks.

The Free Dictionary gives three pronunciations without delineating which is which:
(s-hâr, -hr, -här)

But, Dictionary.com gives this:

[suh-har-uh, -hair-uh, -hahr-uh]

Now, when I have heard the Arabic pronunciation, I have never heard the R in the second syllable. In fact, I told my Lebanese students last summer that the only Arabic word I knew was sa-ha-ra and they were happy that I could pronounce it as they do.

It never occurred to me to represent the first syllable with "suh," which, to me, looks like a representation of the way someone from the Old South pronounces the word "sir."

If this post doesn't demonstrate the flaw in your phonetic spelling idiocy, nothing does.
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