OmSigDAVID
 
  0  
Wed 2 Feb, 2011 04:43 pm
@farmerman,
farmerman wrote:
One measure of insanity is the constant use of neologisms and nonsense phrases.
Sorta like H2O "man".
I believe that Bill Shakespeare has gotten credit
as being the foremost neologist of the English language.

Perhaps u wish to impugn his mental health ?





David
H2O MAN
 
  -2  
Wed 2 Feb, 2011 05:31 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
OmSigDAVID wrote:

farmerman wrote:
One measure of insanity is the constant use of neologisms and nonsense phrases.
Sorta like H2O "man".
I believe that Bill Shakespeare has gotten credit
as being the foremost neologist of the English language.


Perhaps u wish to impugn his mental health ?





David


That's what Fistriders do, it's one of their tactics.
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MontereyJack
 
  1  
Wed 2 Feb, 2011 08:34 pm
I'd say farmer is probably using neologism in its OTHER sense, David, "a meaningless word coined by a psychotic"--take another look at your dictionary. He's right on the money there. Pretty good description of ican too, and the silly string of acronyms he keeps coining that nobody else ever uses.
OmSigDAVID
 
  0  
Thu 3 Feb, 2011 02:02 am
@MontereyJack,
MontereyJack wrote:
I'd say farmer is probably using neologism in its OTHER sense, David, "a meaningless word coined by a psychotic"--take another look at your dictionary. He's right on the money there. Pretty good description of ican too, and the silly string of acronyms he keeps coining that nobody else ever uses.
Lemme see, now: how does this work ??
By definition, before a word exists,
it can have no definition.
When a neologist (universally including ALL neologists,
of all degrees of mental health) defines a new word,
he then gives it a new meaning,
at the time of its creation.

According to u, (or to the reasoning of your dictionary)
this creativity is (or shoud be) confined to those citizens
of grossly defective mental health (out of touch with reality) ?
Hence, in order to coin a (new) word,
a man must sacrifice his sanity ????

I don 't think so.





David
JTT
 
  0  
Thu 3 Feb, 2011 02:22 am
@OmSigDAVID,
Quote:
Lemme see, now: how does this work ??
By definition, before a word exists,
it can have no definition.


That can't be right, Om. The new idea, which translates into a new meaning, must occur to a speaker before any utterance comes.
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farmerman
 
  1  
Thu 3 Feb, 2011 03:33 am
@OmSigDAVID,
Quote:
According to u, (or to the reasoning of your dictionary)
this creativity is (or shoud be) confined to those citizens
of grossly defective mental health (out of touch with reality) ?
Hence, in order to coin a (new) word,
a man must sacrifice his sanity ????
Dont try to think it out too long Dave, youre head will explode. "neologisms" as a description of words used by psychotics also has the same route as any other . The differences are that a"neologism" mau serve a purpose in the spoken language (thats why it was initially proposed), In the realm of the psychotic the word only means something to the speaker, and the speaker uses it to exhaustion (sorta like H2O and gungasnake).
Smart guy like you should have no trouble in coming up with several words with multiple wide definitions.
OmSigDAVID
 
  0  
Thu 3 Feb, 2011 07:00 am
@farmerman,

David wrote:
According to u, (or to the reasoning of your dictionary)
this creativity is (or shoud be) confined to those citizens
of grossly defective mental health (out of touch with reality) ?
Hence, in order to coin a (new) word,
a man must sacrifice his sanity ????
farmerman wrote:
Dont try to think it out too long Dave, youre head will explode.
I have the non-volatile kind.




farmerman wrote:
"neologisms" as a description of words used by psychotics also has the same route as any other . The differences are that a"neologism" mau serve a purpose in the spoken language (thats why it was initially proposed), In the realm of the psychotic the word only means something to the speaker,
U mean, like a poet ?



farmerman wrote:
and the speaker uses it to exhaustion (sorta like H2O and gungasnake).
Smart guy like you should have no trouble in coming up with several words with multiple wide definitions.
I dislike words like that.
U need to figure out what he meant contextually.





David
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H2O MAN
 
  -1  
Thu 3 Feb, 2011 07:50 am
@MontereyJack,
Fistriders (Hardcore Obama Democrats) had no problem coming
up with and using 'teabaggers' to identify T.E.A. party members.

'Fistrider' fits Obama democrats like a glove... use it.
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parados
 
  2  
Thu 3 Feb, 2011 05:58 pm
Quote:
How the House GOP promise to cut $100b became $32b

source

Quote:
However, when taking a closer look at the budget numbers, the actual savings found in the GOP plan equals $32 billion.

...
The fact that the savings only amount to $32 billion -- and not $100 billion -- is going to surely upset many conservative Tea Party members.

The Republican Study Committee, the ideological conservative faction of the House GOP conference, has been adamant that there be $100 billion dollars in cuts for fiscal year 2011.


I particularly like this part
Quote:
When asked where might the Appropriations Committee look to find savings, House Republican Budget Committee staffers were quick to say that under the Obama administration, the Environmental Protection Agency has seen its budget triple, and Republicans would "examine" that agency.

I wonder if ican works for the Budget Committee. The EPA budget went up 34% under Obama from 7.6 billion in 2009 to 10.4 billion in 2010. (It's been over 7 billion every year since 1999.) If you think a 34% increase is tripling something I suppose you think 32% of what you promised is tripling what you promised.
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Thu 3 Feb, 2011 06:15 pm
@parados,
We just have to watch and see how many promises made by the Tea Party is actually kept vs. Obama's campaign promises that he has actually kept. Anybody keeping score? LOL
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plainoldme
 
  1  
Fri 4 Feb, 2011 07:06 am
@OmSigDAVID,
Quote:
By definition, before a word exists,
it can have no definition.
When a neologist (universally including ALL neologists,
of all degrees of mental health) defines a new word,
he then gives it a new meaning,


I normally do not like colored fonts. However, your post is illogical and I saw the need to accent the word that makes it illogical.

If no word existed, then the creation of a word where there was none does not make the definition of said word new.

Attorney? Member of Mensa?
Quote:
According to u, (or to the reasoning of your dictionary)
this creativity is (or shoud be) confined to those citizens
of grossly defective mental health
(out of touch with reality) ?


Here, although this is also an example of illogic, it is, more to the point, an example of diminished reading ability.
plainoldme
 
  0  
Fri 4 Feb, 2011 07:19 am
Ah, some truly funny snarky commentary to enjoy with your morning coffee:

http://www.alternet.org/news/149735/30_of_the_most_loathsome_people_in_america_?page=entire
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OmSigDAVID
 
  0  
Fri 4 Feb, 2011 07:53 am
@plainoldme,
David wrote:
By definition, before a word exists,
it can have no definition.
When a neologist (universally including ALL neologists,
of all degrees of mental health) defines a new word,
he then gives it a new meaning,
plainoldme wrote:
I normally do not like colored fonts. However, your post is illogical and I saw the need
to accent the word that makes it illogical.
Your assertion is false, betraying your ignorance.


plainoldme wrote:
If no word existed, then the creation of a word where there was none
does not make the definition of said word new.
Again, your assertion is false,
again revealing your ignorance
and also your poor cognitive abilities
and your inadequate reasoning abilities.
Its sad. I wish that u were smarter.
I 'd enjoy debating with u, if u were,
as I do with other leftists in this forum
whose minds I DO respect.





plainoldme wrote:
Attorney? Member of Mensa?
U appear to obsess continually
on these 2 points in your posts, Plain.
1) I retired from the practice of law in 1986.
I had a successful firm.
I am NOT looking for any new clients,
nor have I ever been admitted to practice in YOUR State.


2) I am the founder of the Opulent Mensan
Special Interest Group in NY, at some of whose
functions I have met several members of this forum,
which will happen again at the end of June,
when I attend the American Mensa Annual Gathering of 2011,
in Portland, Oregon.

WHAT is the reason that this is so important to u
that u repeat it incessantly, for months on end ??

Since u evince so intense and chronic an interest
in this subject, in the (very unlikely) event
that we ever meet, if u remind me,
u will be welcome to inspect my membership card,
tho I do not understand any reason that u shoud possibly care.



David wrote:
According to u, (or to the reasoning of your dictionary)
this creativity is (or shoud be) confined to those citizens
of grossly defective mental health
(out of touch with reality) ?
plainoldme wrote:
Here, although this is also an example of illogic, it is, more to the point,
an example of diminished reading ability.
I have no wish to be glib nor clever in rhetoric here, Plain,
but this is the same appearance that u have presented to my mind.

It gave me no happiness
to have written u off as being worthy of any interest
in debate. Upon the basis of your posts,
it appears that you are beyond reason,
like Gracie Allen (her fictional stage persona).
I bear u no ill will.
I wish u happiness. I wish u beauty in your life.
I hope that u can find work that will pay u a decent income.
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Fri 4 Feb, 2011 11:00 am
@OmSigDAVID,
David, Can you show us how that worked for words such as "gay?"

Here's a list from Wiki:
Quote:
* Awful - Originally meant "inspiring wonder (or fear)". It is a portmanteau of the words "awe" and "full", used originally as a shortening for "full of awe". In contemporary usage the word has taken on an entirely negative meaning.
* Demagogue - Originally meant "a popular leader". It is from the Greek demagogos (leader of the people), from demos (people) + agogos (leader). Now the word has strong connotations of a politician who panders to emotions and prejudice.
* Democrat - At the time of the American Revolution, the term "democrat" had all the negative connotations of the modern usage of the word "demagogue". A century later, the term had shifted in meaning enough that it was viewed favorably as the name of an American national political party.[citation needed]
* Egregious - Originally described something that was remarkably good. The word is from the Latin egregius (outstanding) which is from e-, ex- (out of) + greg- or grex (flock). Now it means something that is remarkably bad or flagrant.
* Guy - Guido (Guy) Fawkes was the alleged leader of a plot to blow up the English Houses of Parliament on 5 November 1605. The burning on 5 November of a grotesque effigy of Fawkes, known as a "guy," led to the use of the word "guy" as a term for any "person of grotesque appearance" and then to a general reference for a man, as in "some guy called for you." In the 20th century, under the influence of American popular culture, "guy" has been gradually replacing "fellow," "bloke," "chap" and other such words throughout the English-speaking world, and, in the plural, can refer to a mixture of genders (e.g., "Come on, you guys!" could be directed to a group of men and women).
* Gay - Originally meant feelings of being "carefree", "happy", or "bright and showy"; it had also come to acquire some connotations of "immorality" as early as 1637. The term later began to be used in reference to homosexuality, in particular, from the early 20th century, a usage that may have dated prior to the 19th century.
OmSigDAVID
 
  -1  
Fri 4 Feb, 2011 11:57 am

I surmise that the homosexuals
desired to be considered "carefree", "happy", and "bright and showy".

That 's my best guess.

It struck me as odd,
when thay did that, but I did not dispute it with them.





David
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Fri 4 Feb, 2011 01:22 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
How about 'equality?"
OmSigDAVID
 
  0  
Fri 4 Feb, 2011 02:33 pm
@cicerone imposter,
What is = to what ?
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Fri 4 Feb, 2011 02:35 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
If you have to ask the question, you just don't understand the issues for gays.
OmSigDAVID
 
  -1  
Fri 4 Feb, 2011 02:40 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:
If you have to ask the question,
you just don't understand the issues for gays.
I don 't.
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plainoldme
 
  0  
Fri 4 Feb, 2011 07:19 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
I just love it when david tries to take me on. The man does not know his arse from his elbow. I'll have something to chuckle over as I make lasagne tonight.
 

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