I Give Up.... I'm Voting Republican

I hate to do it, but I have to agree with dys here. That video is a neatly done top-notch professional job. Which only makes it all the more pernicious: any political organization which can put together something that professional obviously isn't far from being in the same league as the organization it criticises. I have no use for the Repubs, but I hate to see the Dems (for whom I likewise have no use) shoot themselves in the kneecap by puerile posturing.

Social Security and health care are two (among many) items that America needs. It's bullshit to claim we can't afford it. It's bullshit to think we can't reform the government without shrinking or eliminating social programs like these. The public gets systematically fleeced by government, corporate America and the military. Put a stop to that, not the lifeline of millions of citizens. Or do you think it will benefit the "revolution" to make the old folks die off?

Another reason I'm voting Republican is because, Hate, poverty, prejudice, war, are all good things.

edgarblythe wrote:

Social Security and health care are two (among many) items that America needs. It's bullshit to claim we can't afford it. It's bullshit to think we can't reform the government without shrinking or eliminating social programs like these. The public gets systematically fleeced by government, corporate America and the military. Put a stop to that, not the lifeline of millions of citizens. Or do you think it will benefit the "revolution" to make the old folks die off?

We can afford to support our old, our infirm, and our retarded and young... Hell, even primitives could do that much... The thing is that when most people are poor and the rich won't settle for less rich, then new rich have to be made out of the entitlements of the poor...We could afford a living wage for all too; but how likely is that???

Fido wrote:

edgarblythe wrote:

Social Security and health care are two (among many) items that America needs. It's bullshit to claim we can't afford it. It's bullshit to think we can't reform the government without shrinking or eliminating social programs like these. The public gets systematically fleeced by government, corporate America and the military. Put a stop to that, not the lifeline of millions of citizens. Or do you think it will benefit the "revolution" to make the old folks die off?

We can afford to support our old, our infirm, and our retarded and young... Hell, even primitives could do that much... The thing is that when most people are poor and the rich won't settle for less rich, then new rich have to be made out of the entitlements of the poor...We could afford a living wage for all too; but how likely is that???

I don't altogether understand where you are coming from. I am as committed to changing the nature of our situation as anybody else. But without my SS checks I would possibly be living in a box downtown. Not much you can do from that far down.

MY opinion of Social Security - They raided the coffers practically since its inception and it is increasingly hard to sustain. - I wouldn't object to making a profit off it, but if it got handled the way my 401k did, we would just be further impoverished. I don't favor allowing every yokel to pilot their own account. Too many would likely end without a cent. To me, the key is to quit wasting so many resources on everything we don't need and fund public works better.

Now you are getting closer to my position.