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@spendius,

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Ee bah gum lass, thar a bonny bit o' crumpet an' noah mishtake. Tha mon as weel ged thi kit off nah an' gee us aw a gud luke at rest o' thee. Art aw reet at meking pies an' puddins an' scrubbin' mi back wen ah cum 'ooem frae pit?

North country -but nothing like a Scottish accent? Do you think this is how Mathos and McTag talk? Not necessarily what'd they say (Mathos might) but how they'd pronounce it?
Oh wait - I just remembered - I talked to Mathos on the phone once and he sounded like Ringo - a Scouse. He got really offended when I said that though.

This guy was great. 'Bloody 'ell!' I loved the way he said that.
I also like when people say 'Cor blimey!'
Where do you think that originated? I know what it means now - but what historical connotations does it have? That's another thing I asked - and no one knew.

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@aidan,

Just Google--

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Cor blimey

Meaning

An exclamation of surprise.
Origin

A euphemism (specifically a minced oath) derived from 'God blind me'.

Blimy is first recorded in print in Barrère and Leland's A dictionary of slang, jargon and cant, 1889. The extended version was used, by Arthur Morrison in A Child of the Jago, 1896:

"Gawblimy, not what?"

The link between 'gor blimey' or 'cor blimey' and 'god blind me' was made evident by James Joyce in Ulysses, 1922:

God blimey if she aint a clinker

Being as it is, a contraction of 'God blind me', the term was originally spelled 'gorblimey' and is still frequently used that way.

I've met Fred a couple of times at chimney drops. He reckoned he could drop a mill chimney right down the middle of the road if that was the only space it would go. He was probably kidding.

I suppose Mac has a Scots accent. It's like a chain saw. And I think Mathos, from what I remember of his style, would be posher. Especially on the phone to you.

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@spendius,

He sounded nervous. That surprised me. But for real - he did sound like Ringo Starr.

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@aidan,

And while we're on the subject - what sort of accent do you have? Is yours posh?

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I understand that posh means:
Port Out,
Starboard Home

for protection from exposure to the sun.

David

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@OmSigDAVID,

Yeah - David - this is so funny. One of my students here was a Kashmiri guy and he said, 'Miss - I want you to teach me to speak like you.'

I said, 'Like me? What do you mean?'

And he said, 'I want to speak like a posh American.'

I almost died laughing. When was the last time you've heard a New Jersey accent described as 'posh'?

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@aidan,

The last time was never; I thawt it was a nautical term.

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@aidan,

Tomorrow morning, I 'm flying to the Gun Rights Policy Conference in San Francisco
(to study the future effects of the HELLER and McDONALD cases of the USSC).

Years ago, I might have gotten a POSH ticket
to go there by the Panama Canal.

David

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@OmSigDAVID,

Well yes, that's where it originated, because as it's been explained to me only the rich people could afford those tickets on the steamers- it apparently was more comfortable to be port out and starboard home.

But now it means uppercrust- fancy, etc.

I told him - we don't really have posh people in America. Even the people with lots of money don't really act 'posh'. They just act moneyed.

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@OmSigDAVID,

That would be the long way around.

Have a nice trip.

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@aidan,

aidan wrote:

That would be the long way around.

Have a nice trip.

Yeah; it was luxurious.
Flying is more direct; n faster than a ship.

Thank u.

David

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@OmSigDAVID,

You're welcome- safe travels.

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@aidan,

aidan wrote:

You're welcome- safe travels.

I hope so.

David

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@OmSigDAVID,

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I understand that posh means:
Port Out,
Starboard Home

There is no evidence for that Dave. It is an acronym invented after the event as "Golf" is--(Gentlemen only, ladies forbidden.) A very witty one I must say.

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The true origin of 'posh' is uncertain. The term was used from the 1890s onward to mean a dandy. George and Weedon Grossmith's The Diary of a Nobody, which began publication in serial form in the English satirical magazine Punch in 1888, has a character called Murray Posh, who is described as 'a swell'. The book is a satire of the times and most of the character's names are intended to match aspects of their personality, so it is quite probable that the Grossmiths used the name Posh with the meaning we currently know. The said Murray certainly looks posh enough.

Maybe it has something to do with "polish".

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@spendius,

spendius wrote:

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I understand that posh means:
Port Out,
Starboard Home

There is no evidence for that Dave. It is an acronym invented after the event as "Golf" is--(Gentlemen only, ladies forbidden.) A very witty one I must say.

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The true origin of 'posh' is uncertain. The term was used from the 1890s onward to mean a dandy. George and Weedon Grossmith's The Diary of a Nobody, which began publication in serial form in the English satirical magazine Punch in 1888, has a character called Murray Posh, who is described as 'a swell'. The book is a satire of the times and most of the character's names are intended to match aspects of their personality, so it is quite probable that the Grossmiths used the name Posh with the meaning we currently know. The said Murray certainly looks posh enough.

Maybe it has something to do with "polish".

Swell is not a noun; its an adjective.

David

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Well according to my point of view, I think that there are many factors involved in determining jail time for a convicted suspect. These can include mitigating circumstances, prior convictions, and the nature and number of crimes committed.

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@OmSigDAVID,

David - swell can be a noun, verb, or adjective:

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swell
pronunciation:swel
parts of speech:verb, noun, adjective
part of speech: verb
inflections: swelled, swelling, swells, swollen
definition 1: to make larger by growth or pressure; expand.
The crowd swelled as the night went on.
The balloon swelled.
synonyms:balloon, expand, grow, increase, inflate, rise
antonyms:contract, shrink, shrivel
similar words:balloon, billow, bloat, blow up, enlarge, inflate, puff, wax
definition 2: to become greater in amount, force, or loudness.
The sound swelled louder and louder.
synonyms:balloon, build, expand, increase, mount, rise
antonyms:decrease, taper, wane
similar words:augment, balloon, enlarge, grow, wax
definition 3: to grow within and rise out; spring or well up.
Water swells from a fountain in the park.
Feelings of love swelled inside him.
synonyms:balloon, billow, rise, well, well up
similar words:burst, grow
definition 4: to cause to be greater or larger in amount, force, or loudness.
The constant rain swelled the river.
synonyms:augment, enlarge, increase, intensify
antonyms:decrease
similar words:raise
definition 5: to cause to curve out or bulge.
The bee sting has swelled part of the child's arm.
There is no wind to swell the sails.
similar words:bulge
related words: accumulate, build, exaggerate, grow, gush, heave, increase, increase, inflame, rise, roll, surge

part of speech: noun
definition 1: the act of swelling or a swollen state.
The storm caused a swell of water to flood the cellar.
synonyms:inflation, swelling
definition 2: a long wave or series of waves.
The ship was lifted by the swell.
synonyms:billow, roll, wave
related words: gush, wash, wave

part of speech: adjective
definition: fine; excellent; nice.
He is a swell friend.
What a swell day!
synonyms:cool, dandy, fine, great, super
antonyms:bad, lousy
similar words:excellent, fine, nice

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@alinageorge,

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Well according to my point of view, I think that there are many factors involved in determining jail time for a convicted suspect. These can include mitigating circumstances, prior convictions, and the nature and number of crimes committed.

I agree.

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