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How do you see the burning of Holy Koran by pastor Terry Jones

 
 
gungasnake
 
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Reply Sat 11 Sep, 2010 06:17 pm
@findingsolutions,
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How do you see the burning of Holy Koran by pastor Terry Jones? ...


The thought is good but it isn't going to accomplish anything.

Want to really do something to hurt the lunatic regimes in the world?

Ban the Importation of oil into the United States!


The United States should be exporting oil and not importing it, but the only way to get from here to there is the same way anybody gives up smoking. The idea would be to totally ban all importation of oil to the United States while simultaneously putting the exploitation of every energy resource available to us on a war footing with emphasis on those which could be exploited most quickly.

This would mess us up about as badly as we were messed up during WW-II for about a year and for that year every sort of motor sport and probably the use of RVs and SUVs would have to cease but, at the end of that year, we would be vastly better off than we've been over the last 40 years and the lunatics would be totally and permanently snaffed.

The theory I'm still waiting to hear is how anybody thinks FDR and Ike would have prosecuted WW-II while buying oil from Adolf Hitler for 80 dollars a barrel.
JTT
 
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Reply Sat 11 Sep, 2010 10:16 pm
@gungasnake,
That's real smart, Gunga. Where did you ever get the harebrained notion that the "thought is good"?

No purchases of all that military equipment and hardware. No purchases of a vast quantity of American goods and service. No ... . No ... . The US would go tits up fast.
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north
 
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Reply Sat 11 Sep, 2010 10:27 pm

the down fall of Humanity

religion will be the down fall of all Humanity
oralloy
 
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Reply Sat 11 Sep, 2010 11:28 pm
@revelette,
revelette wrote:
Actually he is not the only who said that US is partially responsible for 9/11. Remember Jerry Fawell who thinks sin and the ACLU helped to bring about 9/11?


I know there are others. That monster JTT just said something similar in this very thread.

Those people are all evil.
oralloy
 
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Reply Sat 11 Sep, 2010 11:29 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:
Funny that you can talk about injustice as if you understood the definition.


Being able to talk about it as if I understood the definition is a straightforward result of the fact that I do understand the definition.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Sat 11 Sep, 2010 11:30 pm
@JTT,
JTT wrote:
oralloy wrote:
And he has repeatedly said that US policy was partially responsible for the 9/11 attacks.


He is right but he's off by a bit. US policy was completely responsible for the 9/11 attacks. That's the fact, Jack and no amount of delusion can change that fact.


You sure are an evil person.....



JTT wrote:
It's perfectly clear; if the USA hadn't treated Middle Easterners in such a callous, brutal manner, 9/11 would never have happened.


The US has not treated Middle Easterners in a callous or brutal manner.



JTT wrote:
If the USA hadn't developed the very organization that turned around and bit a chunk off its rump, 9/11 would never have happened.


The US had nothing to do with the development of al-Qa'ida.
oralloy
 
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Reply Sat 11 Sep, 2010 11:37 pm
@Krumple,
Krumple wrote:
Hey I think they should not only pile up a bunch of korans but how about toss in a bunch of bibles of all the different branches of christianity, and while we are at it, toss in the vedas and how about the torah. Then to top it off, why not pile on some flags to go with it. Because in all honesty, christanity and islam is exactly the same thing.

I find it incredibly funny when I hear a christian say that islam is a religion of hatred and will murder you. Well christianity is exactly the same way and has a lavish history of killing non believers or anyone who would challenge the church. Can you find a difference between them? No, because there isn't one.


Xianity abandoned such practices some centuries ago. You'll not find them going on a global murder spree if someone dares to depict Jesus in a cartoon or burn a bible.



Krumple wrote:
With all that said, I think they should be allowed to build a mosque at ground zero or where ever the hell they want as long as it is within the law. Do I support islam? No, but that doesn't give anyone the right to tell them they can't build their church.


I'd hope they would have the decency to find a less hurtful location. However, they have the right to do so if they insist on it.

But people who object to the location of the mosque also have EVERY RIGHT to burn a huge pile of Korans in protest.
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hedden786
 
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Reply Sat 11 Sep, 2010 11:38 pm
@findingsolutions,
The people are loosing their moral while becoming modern. The
society needs to be attentive that moral value.
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north
 
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Reply Sat 11 Sep, 2010 11:47 pm

has common decency been abandoned
oralloy
 
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Reply Sun 12 Sep, 2010 12:45 am
Mar12Tina wrote:
Disgusting. No, he doesn't represent what Christianity or the American people stand for. He needs to recognise that.


How exactly is burning a Koran in protest disgusting?

Is burning an American flag in protest equally as disgusting?

Maybe the next time we see TV footage of a bunch of protesters in an Islamic country burning American flags, that footage should end with the US Air Force dropping napalm on the protest.
oralloy
 
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Reply Sun 12 Sep, 2010 12:48 am
@north,
north wrote:
has common decency been abandoned


I think common decency went out with the Neolithic Revolution.
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contrex
 
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Reply Sun 12 Sep, 2010 12:54 am
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:

Maybe the next time we see TV footage of a bunch of protesters in an Islamic country burning American flags, that footage should end with the US Air Force dropping napalm on the protest.


You really are a prick, aren't you? Does writing like that give you a boner?

oralloy
 
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Reply Sun 12 Sep, 2010 02:20 am
@contrex,
contrex wrote:
You really are a prick, aren't you? Does writing like that give you a boner?


Says the monster who supports putting innocent people in prison....
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revelette
 
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Reply Sun 12 Sep, 2010 07:08 am
@oralloy,
Do you consider Ron Paul to be evil? Or could he be just a regular person with a different viewpoint on which you disagree?

Quote:
This sentiment seems to confirm that Islam itself is to be made the
issue, and radical religious Islamic views were the only reasons for
9/11. If it became known that 9/11 resulted in part from a
desire to retaliate against what many Muslims saw as American
aggression and occupation, the need to demonize Islam would be
difficult if not impossible.


source


Merely because you might be trying to understand the issues we are dealing with in regards to Muslims/Arabs does not mean you support or in any way excuse their actions. The Imam has said he is against all forms of terrorism and that would include the terrorist actions of those who attacked the US on 9/11 which would make him no different than Ron Paul in respect to this conversation.
oralloy
 
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Reply Sun 12 Sep, 2010 08:55 am
@revelette,
revelette wrote:
Do you consider Ron Paul to be evil? Or could he be just a regular person with a different viewpoint on which you disagree?

Quote:
This sentiment seems to confirm that Islam itself is to be made the
issue, and radical religious Islamic views were the only reasons for
9/11. If it became known that 9/11 resulted in part from a
desire to retaliate against what many Muslims saw as American
aggression and occupation, the need to demonize Islam would be
difficult if not impossible.


source


Merely because you might be trying to understand the issues we are dealing with in regards to Muslims/Arabs does not mean you support or in any way excuse their actions. The Imam has said he is against all forms of terrorism and that would include the terrorist actions of those who attacked the US on 9/11 which would make him no different than Ron Paul in respect to this conversation.



Not quite the same. Based on your quote, Ron Paul said "what many Muslims saw as American aggression and occupation".

He is not suggesting that America acted that way, but rather that many Muslims had delusions that America acted that way.


I would call Ron Paul "ignorant and uninformed" as opposed to "evil".

The motivation behind 9/11 did indeed spring from a delusion, but not that particular delusion.

Osama believed he was about to conquer the world (well, at least the Islamic world, but I have no doubts he would have turned his attention to the rest of us once he finished crowning himself Commander of the Faithful).

Osama believed, correctly, that the US would have acted to stop him if he started toppling one Islamic government after the other and making them part of some radical Islamic empire.

He believed, incorrectly, that 9/11 would have intimidated us into not acting to stop him. (He really should have taken time to examine how we responded to Pearl Harbor.)
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sun 12 Sep, 2010 10:26 am
@north,
They don't only teach hate, they practice it every day of their lives.

Religion is a farse perpetrated by idiotic people to stupid people who don't know anything about morals. They would have us believe they are people of christian faith, but in actuality the devil in sheeps clothing. They talk well about morals, but act the very reverse of what they say.

Now, it's hate all Muslims, and burn their koran.



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revelette
 
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Reply Sun 12 Sep, 2010 11:39 am
@oralloy,
Quote:
The answer stems from a mixed record of reform, a lack of focus and a resilient foe. Progress at home -- in our ability to detect, prevent and respond to terrorist attacks -- has been difficult, incomplete and slow, but

it has been real. Outside our borders, however, the threat of failure looms. We face a rising tide of radicalization and rage in the Muslim world -- a trend to which our own actions have contributed. The enduring threat is not Osama bin Laden but young Muslims with no jobs and no hope, who are angry with their own governments and increasingly see the United States as an enemy of Islam.
Thomas H. Kean and Lee H. Hamilton


source

Quote:
Beck made similar comments to Rauf. Although Beck attacked Rauf for his comments about 9-11, Beck himself said that while the U.S. did not "deserve 9-11," the U.S. was "in bed with dictators" and "that causes problems." Talking about "why do you think they hate us in the Middle East," Beck said:

When people said they hate us, well, did we deserve 9-11? No. But were we minding our business? No. Were we in bed with dictators and abandoned our values and principles? Yes. That causes problems.


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revelette
 
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Reply Sun 12 Sep, 2010 11:49 am
@revelette,
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Michael F. Scheuer an American historian, foreign policy critic, and political analyst. He is a former employee of the CIA. In his 22-year career, he served as the Chief of the Bin Laden Issue Station (aka "Alec Station"), from 1996 to 1999, the Osama bin Laden tracking unit at the Counterterrorist Center. He then worked again as Special Advisor to the Chief of the bin Laden unit from September 2001 to November 2004.

T]he crux of my argument is simply that America is in a war with militant Islamists that it cannot avoid; one that it cannot talk or appease its way out of; one in which our irreconcilable Islamist foes will have to be killed, an act which unavoidably will lead to innocent deaths; and one that is motivated in large measure by the impact of U.S. foreign policies in the Islamic world, one of which is unqualified U.S. support for Israel.[19]


source

Are these people evil as well, including Glen Beck?
failures art
 
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Reply Sun 12 Sep, 2010 12:12 pm
The guy can burn all the Korans he wants, that is his right. In discussion of what his speach means, however, what is stupid is making his action morally/ethically equivilant with with the building of Park51.

Finn - Who has rushed in to make this guy a representitive of all Christianity? I don't believe this, and I think there has been a good response from Christians to condemn this action.

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JTT
 
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Reply Sun 12 Sep, 2010 12:20 pm
@oralloy,
The evil that goes around comes around. Six million people dead, Oralboy and you maintain a level of abject stupidity that allows you to mentally bury the truth.

The CIA long ago said it would happen. On 9-11, a number of US academics said they could, off the top of their head, count a number of nations that could justifiably seek revenge.

Your movies and media are full of such themes and you all celebrate revenge upon others with such glee.
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