Ironically, the person you're referring to had a degree in philosophy.
Anyway, as far as I know, the answer to your question is no there will not be moderators that despise philosophy.
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ehBeth
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Thu 19 Aug, 2010 08:29 am
@HexHammer,
HexHammer wrote:
To me the situation is unacceptable, unworthy of intelligent adults.
You are most welcome to move on to a situation more suitable to your requirements.
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sozobe
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Thu 19 Aug, 2010 09:24 am
@Khethil,
Just to clarify... you guys get that we do have moderators on A2K, right?
A lot more of the power of moderation goes to the users -- that's what the thumbs-ups and thumbs-downs are about, for example. (Make it easier to find the good stuff while the bad stuff gets buried.) But there are moderators who pull spam and porn and really bad stuff... it's not a free-for-all. It's just a matter of where the line is drawn.
And I think it's interesting that while there has been a lot of complaint about how this thread is an example of how horrible A2K is, you seem to be saying you wouldn't do anything particularly different except say "any more volunteers out there?" Which is hardly the level of what Mark and Hex and such seem to be saying they want/ need.
Anyway. Again, moot.
You (not sure who "you" will be exactly, apparently at least jgweed and Zetherin?) will have your chance to moderate as you see fit. Will be interesting to see how the apparent variation of opinion on how to best moderate within the former-philforum community will be resolved. Like Thomas, I don't exactly envy you the job, but I wish you the best of luck.
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Robert Gentel
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Thu 19 Aug, 2010 09:44 am
@Zetherin,
Zetherin wrote:
I'm not sure I understand your comment about masochism, but thanks for the luck!
Translation: Running a forum is often like herding cats. You'd have to be a first-class idiot (like myself) to want to get into something like that.
My question is still whether they are going to have moderators who despise philosophy as did the former incarnation?
Really? The moderators on the old forum despised philosophy? Do you have evidence to support such a claim?
I never got that impression.
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Khethil
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Thu 19 Aug, 2010 10:08 am
@Robert Gentel,
@sozobe
sozobe wrote:
Just to clarify... you guys get that we do have moderators on A2K, right?
Well, I can't speak for anyone else. But yes, I do - I didn't say that there weren't. We weren't talking about existing A2K staff but the presence and roles of moderators on a separate subforum (or not); how it is or isn't done, what issues it addresses, etc.
sozobe wrote:
And I think it's interesting that while there has been a lot of complaint about how this thread is an example of how horrible A2K is...
Hmm. Well, except for what I seem to recall as personal insulting, I don't think this thread is so "horrible" - and again, I did not say that. But whether or not one thinks it is depends on how you look at it. I did think it was a bit ironic, a little while back as I said, but that was just tongue-in-cheek; I even issued a clarification to that post.
sozobe wrote:
... you seem to be saying you wouldn't do anything particularly different except say "any more volunteers out there?"
Aside from what I've said above, I don't know if I would - I'm only using that as an example of describing a potential moderation scenario. Again, I'm not criticizing anyone's hard work, the existing moderators or A2K at large - we were talking about how moderation might go; its benefits and drawbacks, that's all.
sozobe wrote:
Which is hardly the level of what Mark and Hex and such seem to be saying they want/ need.
I can't speak for them. I can empathize with what I believe they may be feeling or expressing but that's about it. You'd have to ask them.
sozobe wrote:
Will be interesting to see how the apparent variation of opinion on how to best moderate within the former-philforum community will be resolved. Like Thomas, I don't exactly envy you the job, but I wish you the best of luck.
Thanks - yea it won't be me. But like you I'm very curious to see how it goes.
I sense in the topics you address to me, as well as your tone, an inclination to quickly jump to the defense where no attack has been levied. I realize how much loyalties can bring to bear where folks have close identification to an online community such as A2K, and can appreciate its implications. But until we stop looking at each other as "one of those" people, its going to remain difficult for us to feel at home. Over time such separatist rhetoric (ref, "You guys") wears one down - no matter how hard patient they are.
Robert Gentel wrote:
Translation: Running a forum is often like herding cats....
Then maybe you need to wake up to reality, or have a better sense of what is decent and indecent.
To me the situation is unacceptable, unworthy of intelligent adults.
Would you like to expand on that? Provide a little more detail?
"Decent" & "indecent" ... a situation "unacceptable, unworthy of intelligent adults".
Those are very damning assessments.
I must say, I'm also surprised that you're still here, too, if this is your honest assessment.
I'v seen this thread stoop down to senseless bicker, trolling and flaming, if anyone finds this as acceptable terms, then that's idiocy.
I'v seen many ways of moderating, some resort to brutal thread lock, or some do it in a more clever way of simply asking the idiots to stop posting ...OR ELSE!!
Thing is, there's still about as much forum drama either way. When we did top down the drama was about censorship and now it's about the lack of it.
There will always be a lot of people disagreeing with how a large forum is run and being a forum it will be discussed ad nauseum. One of the benefits the top-down ones have is that they tend to just lock up and stop the navel gazing so in some ways that might be easier (lots of forums just censor the criticism).
Thing is, there's still about as much forum drama either way.
Sure. But the difference is that you can ignore the forum drama if you want to. I would imagine that's a load of work off your chest. Or Jespah's. Or the moderators on the old phpbb site. Or someone's. No?
