Hey, Can A Woman "Ask To Get Raped"?

@BillRM,

BillRM wrote:

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Imagine yourself being anally raped by a man, without your consent. How does the thought of that make you feel?

When I am imagining that event you can imagine having heavy bars shut behind your for the rest of your live for a crime you did not do.

...and then she can know that there is a mechanism in place to change that situation. The other, the rape situation, cannot be changed. This isn't 1 for 1 Bill.

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@hawkeye10,

hawkeye10 wrote:

I would expect justice to prevail. And if one of my kids were to be murdered I would not support the death penalty for the one who did it no matter how evil I decided he/she was. I believe what I believe, I dont change my beliefs when something happens to me. If I did that very often that would indicate to me that I make up my mind with-out fully thinking it through. I try to not do that.

Justice has very little to do with feelings, I sure hope you never went to law school.

You have made many references to the death penalty. There is NO DEATH PENALTY for rape, hawkeye. What part of that don't you get? The most any of us have said is a rapist should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law, which means time in jail away from society. No one has said a single word about exacting blood or anything like that. You have said something to the effect, well, that's the way it is heading. I honestly don't know anyone that would say the death penalty is justified for rape. Now, if a person was killed in the commission of that rape, that's a different story but we have only been talking rape and jail time.

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@hawkeye10,

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@firefly,

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Imagine yourself being anally raped by a man, without your consent. How does the thought of that make you feel?

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I would expect justice to prevail. And if one of my kids were to be murdered I would not support the death penalty for the one who did it no matter how evil I decided he/she was. I believe what I believe, I dont change my beliefs when something happens to me. If I did that very often that would indicate to me that I make up my mind with-out fully thinking things through. I try to not do that
Justice has very little to do with feelings, I sure hope you never went to law school.

You didn't answer my question.

How would you feel about being anally raped by a man, without your consent?

What would you feel in response to the experience of being raped--how does the thought of being raped, anally by a man, make you feel?

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@firefly,

Seem simple you are now a man firefly and been charge by a woman with a rape you did not do and then you been convicted of a rape you did not do and been place into a cell you know you will died in.

Seem somehow slightly worst then anally raped and given a choice between that kind of rape and dying in prison rape away big boy as far as I am concern.

One can not compare to the other in any manner and yet you have no concern about such men and no wish to take the freedom for decades away from such women who try to used the justice system to imprison men for a lifetime or a large parts of a lifetime.

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@firefly,

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You didn't answer my question.

because it is not relevant. I am arguing that the system needs to be fair to both sides, that we went from it being unfair to one side to being unfair to the other. I have no doubt that we will for the foreseeable future continue to work to skew the needle towards the alleged victims side, and that is wrong. We are going to end up with a situation that is just as bad as was what we started with. Now is the time to stand up and demand that we don't go there.

It does not matter which side I am on if I were personally involved, I would want what was best for me, and that is what I should want because we have an adversarial system. Most of the time people here assume that I am either a rapist or a would be rapist and this is why I care, you are trying to put me on the other side and asking what I would care about. How very jaded you must be to have so much resistance to the idea that someone would care about this stuff not for personal advantage, but because he cares about just and good systems being in place.

Or maybe I really am a freak, being concerned for the greater good as I am, being a self discribed socialist. This is indeed a depressing thread, but not for the reasons osso gave.

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@BillRM,

Don't shift the subject to false accusations.

Stop being a coward, and just answer my question. It is a simple question.

How would you feel about being anally raped by a man, without your consent?

What would you feel in response to the experience of being raped--how does the thought of being raped, anally by a man, make you feel?

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@hawkeye10,

Oh, the question I am asking is extremely relevant to this discussion. I am not asking you about what you would want the justice system to do. I am asking you how you would feel, on a personal level, about being raped. You do have emotions, don't you?

How would you feel about being anally raped by a man, without your consent?

What would you feel in response to the experience of being raped--how does the thought of being raped, anally by a man, without your consent, make you feel?

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Okay, if I make any other post after this one someone PUH-LEEEEEEEEEEEZZE shoot me!

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@Arella Mae,

Arella Mae wrote:

I honestly don't know anyone that would say the death penalty is justified for rape.

Sure you do; you just don't know they feel that way. I would contribute time and money to a campaign towards a "3 strikes" type of law that called for the execution of rapists and/or child molesters (<-- the most demented form of rape). Better still; I strongly encourage them to self-euthanize for the good of the species.

Credible sources, like the CDC have recognized studies that suggest as many as 85% of rapes go unreported. That a woman has about a 1 in 7 chance of being raped at some point in her life. That the so-called undetected rapist may victimize as many as 14 women (for an average) without ever being formally accused, let alone tried or convicted.

These misogynistic assholes rail on about the relative handful of men who are victims of false accusations. Such a heinous accusation is certainly horrible, and it does happen at alarming levels on a he-said, she-said level, but even so the likelihood of a man being falsely imprisoned for rape is probably about on par with his likelihood of getting struck by lightning.

The truth is out there for anyone interested in the truth. But misogynistic assholes like BillRM and Shorteyes are not even remotely interested in the truth. They don't even realize how sick they are.

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@hawkeye10,

A question was asked of you and you refuse to answer because you consider it not to be relevant. That is a poor excuse for not answering. It is relevant or it wouldn't have been asked. A better answer might be that you are a coward and are afraid to answer.

Both you and Bill have skirted many, many questions on this thread and have ignored requests for followup.

Time to be a man, Hawkeye.

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@firefly,

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How would you feel about being anally raped by a man, without your consent?

It would be annoying...........Not an event that would ruin my life however.

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@OCCOM BILL,

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Credible sources, like the CDC have recognized studies that suggest as many as 85% of rapes go unreported. That a woman has about a 1 in 7 chance of being raped at some point in her life. That the so-called undetected rapist may victimize as many as 14 women (for an average) without ever being formally accused, let alone tried or convicted.

In order to get such high numbers you need to define rape as sex that your fell pressure into not force into pressure into.

Such as if you do not have sex with me tonight I am ending our relationship.

Real rape no way for such high numbers

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@OCCOM BILL,

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These misogynistic assholes rail on about the relative handful of men who are victims of false accusations. Such a heinous accusation is certainly horrible, and it does happen at alarming levels on a he-said, she-said level, but even so the likelihood of a man being falsely imprisoned for rape is probably about on par with his likelihood of getting struck by lightning.

So it does not matter as long as you are not likely to get hit but such a bolt out of the blue.

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@BillRM,

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Quote: firefly
How would you feel about being anally raped by a man, without your consent?

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It would be annoying...........Not an event that would ruin my life however.

Only annoying? ANNOYING?

Is being raped by another man that routine in your life?

Or are you just too cowardly to give a more honest answer? Wouldn't you feel anything in addition to being annoyed?

Would you report the crime--that you had been raped?

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One thing is for sure. The progress that has been made over the years is astounding. Some people are just never satisfied-it is not enough that things have gotten drastically better. They still want perfection. Due to technology and forensics there has been a drastic reduction in the innocent being convicted and thank God many are being released from prison that were convicted and were not guilty. This world will never be perfect. None of us are perfect. The most we can do and hope for is to keep trying to find solutions to the problems that are at hand and not worry about "what may happen". Reality is enough and sometimes too much to deal with.

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@firefly,

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Would you report the crime--that you had been raped?

If I knew who it was I would more then likely take care of the matter myself and enjoy doing so.

In any case my health insurance company and I had pay large amount of money to have objects far larger then a penis up my rear end over the years.

Not an event that would harm my self image in anyway.

Annoying would be the correct word.

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@firefly,

I think most men would be mad as hell. They would want the full extent of the law to come down on the rapist. They would find the experience one of pain, horror and unwanted violation. They would be traumatized and consider it a life altering experience.

Perhaps you are right, maybe Bill finds this rather routine in his life. He also did not say that he would report it. Bill...were you sober when you wrote that?

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@Arella Mae,

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solutions to the problems that are at hand and not worry about "what may happen

The problem is anyone who can run a search engine can find the names of hundreds of men that the word "may" should be change to "had" happen.

But you do not care one little bit about them as they are men not women.

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@Intrepid,

I don't know any man that has been raped, that I know of anyway. I can only imagine the degradation it would be for a man. Society is the way it is an the man has always been seen as the stronger sex at least physically. For a man to be overpowered and raped must be the most horrible thing. Maybe that is why rape is so hard for me to understand at all. If it would destroy a man then seriously, what do they think it would do to a woman?

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@Arella Mae,

Too bad that Bill and Hawkeye can't understand that.

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