Hey, Can A Woman "Ask To Get Raped"?

What the hell are you talking about as I am and had been in partnerships with women and from I that I had reach my view that rape laws are a very bad fit for couples living as long term partnerships/marriages.

If there was any justice, the rape deniers would all get a turn starring as the villian in M. Night's next film Unrapeable, they'd play Mr. Ass, a character destined to be raped until the end of time

Footnote our hero Trump it been reported had been accused of raping one of his wives Ivana Trump in divorce papers.

all Trump deserves is a footnote, or better yet a footprint to the back of his head

I've debated these guys for years, and am familiar with them. I know what to expect and am not going to get too frustrated.

I get your drift, but I also don't want prisoners/criminals representing justice in my name perpetrating rape as an acceptable extra-judicial punishment. Rape is rape and it is always wrong, even when it is meted out to rapists: actual rapists and rape deniers.
















actual and rape deniers.

So you still can't answer the question, huh? Prefer to just claim unrapability instead of giving an answer that pokes an obvious hole in your position. Well at least your didn't pull an Ionus and claim that the simple question is "biased" just because your answer would make obvious a flaw in your position.

Annnnnd how do you feel about this? Other than a bit incoherent.

You debated, they didn't. At what point does the bulk of what they post pile large enough to call it what it appears to be: trolling? They say outrageous crap and refuse to respond to facts. To them debate is simple denial and repeated repetitions with increasingly incendiary personal attacks. They mean to start brawls and do the net equivalent of fighting words.

I understand that if one votes enough people off the island one risks being the only one left there. But if one's target audience is a civil conversation and substantive argument crowd, shouldn't trolls be brought into line or politely shown the egress?

How many threads has Bill derailed by simply being obtuse and unresponsive as the conversation becomes pages of "Why can't you answer a simple question? - Its all Obama's fault"?

Take this thread for example.

If being bad at debate were prohibited here there would be fewer than a dozen members. They are not being intellectually honest but that is not the standard for participation in the community.

Their viewpoints are outrageous and they are not debating them well but this is something that we are going to have in a vibrant community.

I'm wasting my time on them so that people who get hot and bothered by them can more easily not do so. I understand that this is otherwise an exercise in futility.

Threaded conversations will dramatically reduce the ability for one person to ruin a topic, and for whatever reasons (just being off on a tangent, being too loquacious, being too intellectually dishonest etc). The next version of the site will much better support different ongoing conversations on a thread.

I understand what a mixed bag you deal with, and I am curious to see where you're going with the next version.

I like standards but I think gating may backfire. That's just me, of course, a bourgeois anarchist.

Actually statistical analysis has very little to do with one person's experiences.

What rubbish! It is perfectly legitimate when discussing the law to point out what it means by specific cases. Obviously it doesn't explain much to you, but Bobsy, we have had you experience that before haven't we?

I take it you refer to my example of a woman raping a man. Those sort of female criminals.

There is no end of men accused of raping women in divorce papers.

I'm sure "they" would still allow you though.

Sorry but in order to answer how I would feel which is a question dealing with subject emotions I would need to be able to emotionally pictured that happening to me.

Kind of like asking me how I would feel about being eaten by a martian.

I can tell you how I did feel about being assaulted by a partner from my own memories but would it be worst if she had raped me also?

An even with the assault I am sure my feelings was not similar to a female being assaulted by her partner.

Let see being mad and annoyed and wondering if she was doing this to try to provoked me into harming her.

No fear as without a weapon such as a knife or a gun she was completely unable to do serous harm to me.

So no I can not give you an opinion if it would personally be worst to have her assault me and raped me compared to just assaulting me.

What a PC thug you are! A law designed by politicians to respond to the female lobby, and you and other non-thinking followers of fashion say it is a perfect law. I point out failings, as is my right, and you cant see them because it is not PC to criticise our perfect government, perfect women's lobby and perfect laws. If you are doing this to enhance your self image, maybe you would be better off saving trees or hugging whales.

I joined A2K in 2002 and I think the site was up and running way before then. During all my time here, Robert has never taken his ball and gone home. Have you forgotten that Robert created this site and has remained 'hands off' despite the ingratitude of many. I don't understand the hostility, if you think it's unfair, create your own version and allow people to complain about you.

Hostility? I pointed out how under this imperfect law a woman is guilty of raping a man. I told Bob he was asking a loaded question. He knows he is. If you are suggesting he is always right because he owns the site than you are wrong. He has enough kissarses here, he deserves intellectual challenge. So far he has been quite hostile to me, but I am happy to continue. Do you really think he needs protecting from me? I dont.