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Hey, Can A Woman "Ask To Get Raped"?

 
 
Ionus
 
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Reply Tue 22 Dec, 2015 10:05 pm
Doesnt anyone have anything to say about my example of how a woman can rape a man under those laws? No one? Heads in the sand much?
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glitterbag
 
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Reply Tue 22 Dec, 2015 10:07 pm
@Ionus,
Oh Christ no, he doesn't need protection from you. But by all means, continue to challenge him intellectually, it very entertaining.
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NSFW (view)
BillRM
 
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Reply Tue 22 Dec, 2015 10:34 pm
@Ionus,
Rape is rape indeed................

As I had stated as the rape laws have moved to take away the right of adults to consent to sex in many cases a woman can indeed ask to rape in fact beg to be raped.

In one case a man was fast asleep in bed by himself then an adult woman jumped into bed with him and begin having sexual relationship with him.

The next day she found she regretted having sex with him and he ended up being charge with rape under the theory she was too drunk to grant valid consent.

Placing the interesting duty on the man that after waking up with this horny female he needed to be able to judge that her state of intoxication was too great or not to continue to have sex with her.

He was found innocent but only after a full trial.

Then we had a raped due to a man taking 8 seconds or so to removed himself from a woman that in the middle of the act had withdrawn her consent.

The last I read he is still behind bars.
Ionus
 
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Reply Tue 22 Dec, 2015 11:56 pm
@BillRM,
They are so caught up in the male role of protecting women, and women are so caught up in the role of demanding protection even beyond the point of reason, that they cant see what is obvious. If you have consensual sex possibly thousands of times (eg married for 10 years), it is downgrading violent rape by a stranger to call it rape. I would be happy if : as a married couple he assaulted her by forcing her to have sex.
BillRM
 
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Reply Wed 23 Dec, 2015 07:45 am
@Ionus,
The more you 'protect' women the more you take their adulthood and the rights of adulthood away from them.

No little girl you can not form a sexual relationship with your doctor or your instructor or your.........as we do not trust your judgment so we as a society will protect you from yourself.
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Wed 23 Dec, 2015 02:58 pm
Meet The Republican Who Made The Worst Rape Comment Ever

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2014/02/28/lockman-worst-republican-rape-comment/

Last July, I compiled a list of 40 of the worst things Republicans have ever said about rape. I thought I had seen and heard the worst of such statements. Boy, was I wrong. Apparently, a sitting GOP state representative in Maine actually topped all of these horrible quotes all the way back in 1995.

Maine state Rep. Lawrence Lockman is finding out the hard way that past statements can come back to haunt you. Almost 20 years ago, as a member of the Pro Life Education Association, Lockman argued that because women have abortion rights, men should be free to rape women.

“If a woman has (the right to an abortion), why shouldn’t a man be free to use his superior strength to force himself on a woman?” Lockman said in a press statement. “At least the rapist’s pursuit of sexual freedom doesn’t (in most cases) result in anyone’s death.”

Yeah, you read that right. Lockman actually said that men should legally be allowed to rape women as some sort of sick and twisted notion of reproductive rights. The offensive statement was discovered by blogger Mike Tipping, who then posted the comment and others to the Bangor Daily News website .


And all this time I thought Hawkeye10 was the one who came up with that proposal.
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Robert Gentel
 
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Reply Wed 23 Dec, 2015 02:59 pm
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:
So no I can not give you an opinion if it would personally be worst to have her assault me and raped me compared to just assaulting me.


In other words it is as I said. No, you cannot/will not answer the question.

That's certainly one way to approach the discussion, I guess.
BillRM
 
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Reply Wed 23 Dec, 2015 03:14 pm
@Robert Gentel,
It is a meaningless question when it deal with my personal emotions is concern for the reasons given.

I can address my feelings about being assaulted as not only can I picture that happening to me it had indeed happen to me within a relationship but I can not picture myself being rape so I surely can not address how I would feel if you added rape to assault.
Robert Gentel
 
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Reply Wed 23 Dec, 2015 03:17 pm
@BillRM,
Ok, so you can't show any empathy and answer it that way but if we rephrase it to directly require empathy what will you do? Can you guess what most women would answer?

Would they prefer to be just assaulted or assaulted and raped? You can't possibly be so low-empathy of a personality type that you cannot guess the correct answer to this question.
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Wed 23 Dec, 2015 03:22 pm
@BillRM,
Quote:
but I can not picture myself being rape so I surely can not address how I would feel if you added rape to assault.


And yet you presume to understand better and address what rape is for every woman everywhere including members here on a2k that have been raped.

That's truly rich. Shame on you.
BillRM
 
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Reply Wed 23 Dec, 2015 04:03 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
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And yet you presume to understand better and address what rape is for every woman everywhere including members here on a2k that have been raped.


Nonsense as you do not put men in prison not for what they did but how women feel about it after the fact.

I am sorry for example that a young woman regretted losing her virginity on her 18 birthday by jumping into bed of a sleeping stranger and having sex with him but that does not mean that her regret should turn the young man into a rapist.

Regret after the fact does not change consensus sex into rape after the fact.


If women do not care for who they invited into their beds after a few drinks then they might wisely decide not to have those drinks while around unsuitable partners that they might end up in bed with.

Women should be treated as adults who are responsible for their own actions not children that men had a duty to act as their guardians.

Sorry dear as I do not know how many drinks you had have out front at the party before you came back and jumped into my bed we can not have sex.....

Sorry but unlike you I had always view women as adults not children with the same rights and the same responsibilities as men when it come to their sex lives or any other part of their lives for that matter.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Wed 23 Dec, 2015 04:06 pm
@BillRM,
It's great that you have the wherewithal to foresee the woman's feelings and refusal to have sex - in all cases. Where did you learn that skill?
glitterbag
 
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Reply Wed 23 Dec, 2015 04:13 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Probably in a brothel
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Wed 23 Dec, 2015 04:15 pm
@cicerone imposter,
I think bill is a troll.
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BillRM
 
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Reply Wed 23 Dec, 2015 04:19 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:
t's great that you have the wherewithal to foresee the woman's feelings and refusal to have sex - in all cases. Where did you learn that skill?


So a women feelings concerning her actions the night before should decided if a man is or is not guilty of rape?

Not a rapist boy I enjoy sex with that man last night and am looking forward for doing it again mean that the man is not a rapist.

Boy why the hell did I allow myself to go to bed with that bum last night mean that he is a rapist.

Her feelings about the same act she took part in the next day is the deciding line between a rapist and a non rapist?

There should be no way for any man to know if he is or is not a rapist under the law as rape should be define as being whatever any one woman consider it to be?
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Wed 23 Dec, 2015 04:23 pm
@BillRM,
Specially now, Bill's trolling.
BillRM
 
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Reply Wed 23 Dec, 2015 04:55 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
Trolling???

It is a serous question arriving out of your statement that men should not decided if a woman is a victim of rape or not as we are not able to know her emotions.

So it follow that no man can know if he is or is not a rapist due to any sex act he had have with a woman as it all depend on her feelings afterward not the man actions.
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Wed 23 Dec, 2015 05:15 pm
@BillRM,
Says the guy who speaks for women rape victims after claiming he couldn't explain rape of himself because he personally had never been raped.

How much more egregious does a poster have to be than Bill to be taken to some sort of task over his behavior? This is trolling.
BillRM
 
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Reply Wed 23 Dec, 2015 07:04 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
Quote:
Says the guy who speaks for women rape victims after claiming he couldn't explain rape


It have nothing at all to do with explaining rape it have to do with a want if question on my emotional state.

I was ask if I would feel worst being a rape victim as well as an assault victim by a partner.

That would demand that I could picture a female partner of mine raping me as well as assaulting me.

As I stated I had been a victim of a female partner assault but could not picture myself being a victim of her raping me so I could get not give a guess of my emotional state being worst or the same as far as "just" being assaulted victim compare to a rape/assaulted victim.

But of course you do not need to have an emotional and personal connection to a crime to be able judge if some action is or is not a rape as we should use our intellect not our emotions on such subjects.
 

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