@BillRM,
Quote: I do however have a problem with how you would wish to define rape.
You really have a problem understanding what people are saying.
I don't define rape, the law defines rape. I have no wish to alter the legal definition of rape.
Rape is sex without consent.
If you can't understand that, you shouldn't bother commenting in this thread.
This is the third time I am posting NYS date rape law in this thread. It should be clear enough even for you.
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Rape 3rd & Sodomy 3rd. Penal Law 130.25 and 130.40 – Class E felonies.
1. Sexual intercourse,
2. without consent
3. where the lack of consent is not due to "incapacity to consent." That is, the victim actually expresses lack of consent by words and/or actions during the incident. Use of force is not required. No means no.
The new definition of lack of consent in Penal Law 130.05(2) adds "circumstances under which at the time of intercourse, the victim clearly expressed that he or she did not consent to engage in such act, and a reasonable person in the [defendant’s] situation would have understood such person’s words and acts as an expression of lack of consent to such act under all the circumstances."
http://www.correctionhistory.org/northcountry/html/knowlaw/sarasummary3.htm
Get that, it is sexual intercourse without consent. No force is required. No means no.
That's a quite straight forward law.
If a man cannot understand when a woman is not consenting, or if he just doesn't care that she is not consenting, and he has intercourse with her anyway, he will be guilty of rape under this law.
Most men know that if a woman says, "No", or "Stop" or "I don't want that" , or if she pushes or shoves the man away from her, or trys to get up or leave, she is not consenting.
And every single man I know understands that.
Rapists just don't care that she is not consenting.
Your continuing to insult the female posters on this thread is rather juvenile. You don't understand that
most, if not all, women, have strong feelings about rape and rapists. They want to see the rape laws enforced. They want to see rape stopped. They take this topic seriously.
You confuse women's anger about the act of rape, and toward rapists, with a hatred or dislike of men. It simply means you fail to understand how women feel about this issue. Talk less and listen more and you might learn something.