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Hey, Can A Woman "Ask To Get Raped"?

 
 
BillRM
 
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Reply Wed 10 Oct, 2012 06:53 am
@BillRM,
Love it one vote down already over a posting that dare to state that knowingly false charges of rape is every bit as serous misdeed as rape happen to be.

After all girls will be girls not women and adults that should be punish for their misdeeds to the same degree as men are.
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Wed 10 Oct, 2012 10:20 am
@BillRM,
But the process worked! A innocent man was not convicted. The financial ruin of his family and a lifetime of stigma rates an "o'well".
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Wed 10 Oct, 2012 10:48 am
@hawkeye10,
If we know that the most powerful institution in this society is being routinely used as a tool to attack men unjustly then we have an obligation to work to end the abuse. Turning a blind eye as we do now severly tarnishes our claims of moral superiority over our ancestors.
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BillRM
 
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Reply Wed 10 Oct, 2012 07:58 pm
To the holders of the big red NSFW stamp as it seems that as Robert had decided that any thread that have anything to do with human sexualty and that would surely include force sex or when and if consent can be withdrawn after the fact should have that big red stamp.

You know even as an early teenager it never did make sense to me that sex was a subject to be filter but war and crime where there is mass killings was not.

The I love Lucy show could not show a single bed in a married couple bedroom but Gun Smoke could show every week the gunning down of cowboys and Indians in not small numbers.

Paul when he took over the Christian cult surely mess us all up concerning sex for over 2000 years now.

Threads dealing with religions wars between atheists and Christian, politics threads between the right and the left that is hardly friendly, debates over international foreign politics all does not call for the big red stamp.

But talk about a sexual affair and that stamp is there.

Human beings are totally irrational and that once more been proven by the NSFW stamp idea.

To sum up if you are going to be irrational at least be irrational in a consistent manner................



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aspvenom
 
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Reply Wed 10 Oct, 2012 08:33 pm
@BillRM,
Be reasonable man. What about people who access this site while at work? Furthermore what if the company highly scrutinies its employees, day in a day out, checking their internet history, etc.

firefly
 
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Reply Wed 10 Oct, 2012 09:56 pm
@aspvenom,
Robert Gentel was right to call BillRM the village idiot.

For one thing, this thread does not have a "red stamp".

For another thing, rape is hardly a "sexual affair"--it is a sexual assault, and BillRM seems to chose to ignore that fact, just as he makes up his own definitions of what is and isn't "rape" and simply disregards the fact that the only definitions that really matter are spelled out in the laws of each state and in federal law.

The thread that does have the red NSFW designation is the thread on child pornography--the thread in which BillRM gives handy tips on how to conceal your ISP address, and how to heavily encrypt your hard drive so the government can't access the contents, to help collectors and distributors of child porn escape detection of their illegal activities by authorities. And just to be maximally helpful, he also points them to the "dark net" or "deep web"--a haven for criminals and illegal activity, and also a treasure trove of child pornography--where they, and people like BillRM, can move around anonymously without fear of detection. BillRM's a pedophile's best friend, as well as a true sociopath.

He's raised a totally straw-man argument about sexual topics being marked with a NSFW designation because that just isn't the case.

He's not at a computer at work, he's at home with a bunch of cats, so he couldn't care less about people who might lose their jobs for reading certain things at work.

He really is the A2K village idiot.
firefly
 
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Reply Wed 10 Oct, 2012 10:07 pm
@BillRM,
http://wemeantwell.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/head_up_ass.jpg
http://www.direct23.co.uk/ekmps/shops/direct23/images/village-idiot-funny-printed-baseball-cap-13115-p.jpg
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BillRM
 
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Reply Wed 10 Oct, 2012 10:11 pm
@aspvenom,
Quote:
Be reasonable man. What about people who access this site while at work? Furthermore what if the company highly scrutinies its employees, day in a day out, checking their internet history, etc.


Once more this site had exist for how many years without this stamp of shame/sex that Robert had decided to begin using on some threads?

Second once more how does a heated discussion between atheists and right wing christians going to appear any better to such a company?

Third this is not a porn site and the sex subject threads are just words not images.
firefly
 
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Reply Wed 10 Oct, 2012 10:17 pm
@BillRM,
http://image.spreadshirt.net/image-server/v1/compositions/25172192/views/1,width=178,height=178,interlace=true/village-idiot-t-shirts_design.pnghttp://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-laughing024.gif
http://files.myopera.com/AOTEAROAnz/albums/531421/thumbs/head-up-ass.jpg_thumb.jpg
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BillRM
 
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Reply Wed 10 Oct, 2012 10:50 pm
@firefly,
Quote:
For one thing, this thread does not have a "red stamp".


You right and by my understanding of what Robert is going for it should indeed have one just as the CP thread have one.

Now Firefly you do have a hangup on discussing US government as in the US naval research center created software that was then released to the public and by the way just because you do not read other threads that does not involved sex and sin and crime as in CP thread and the rape thread does not mean that computer and internet privacy software are not discuss in other places then the CP thread.

In fact I just got done doing so in some details in the wikileak thread as a matter of fact. Would you care to now express how by so doing I am undermining national security Firefly?

Given that CP trading is one of the major excuses that western governments are now using to try to keep the capabilies and in fact to expand those capbilites to monitor/spy on all their citizens actions on the net along with national security concerns of course. So discussing internet monitoring capablies does come with the subject matter as the politicians are always bringing up the subject of CP trading with the subject of expanding internet monitoring or spying on the citizens.

Then there is the matter Firefly of you being one hell of a hypocrite as in order to win a debating point that the CP thread on this website can be found by google search in connection with defeating governments monitoring and therefore could aid pedophiles you yourself put the needed keys words in your own damn postings so if pedophiles could find aid in my discussing known facts about such programs as tor it is you that was the one that offer that added aid to them by making that thread far more findable by google searches.



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BillRM
 
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Reply Sat 13 Oct, 2012 09:56 am
The so call gang rape at a Canadian rave that been talked about on this thread look like just another example of a woman/girl crying rape when a video of her having group sex came to be known to her father and the community she live in.

Of course her name was protected from being able to be google for the next hundred years or so while the one young man that was charge for a brief time as part of the 'gang rape' will forever more have his name appear with the stories of this so call rape.

Take note the victim went out with her 'rapist' along with other friends to a McDonald after the so call rape.

If the Canadian police was more interested in justice instead of saving faces they would apologize to the young man and then go after the so call victim of this so call rape.


http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/story/2012/02/21/bc-rave-rape-charges-stayed.html

B.C. rave rape charges stayed
Only man charged in alleged gang rape of teen goes free
CBC News Posted: Feb 21, 2012 1:57 PM PT Last Updated: Feb 21, 2012 2:31 PM PT

Police have maintained that about half a dozen men were involved in the sexual assault of a 16-year-old girl at a rural B.C. rave in September 2010. (RCMP) Facebook

Crown prosecutors have dropped charges against the only man accused of sexual assault at a notorious Pitt Meadows, B.C., rave, the man’s lawyer says.

Colton McMorris, 19, was accused of assaulting a girl, 16, at a party in September 2010, while a young offender was charged with posting pictures of the incident — described at the time as a gang rape — on the internet.

Another man, Dennis John Allen Warrington, 19, was charged with distributing child pornography.

Lawyer Tony Serka said the Crown admitted in Port Coquitlam provincial court Tuesday that it did not have a strong enough case against McMorris to proceed with a trial.

"There wasn't any substantial likelihood of conviction from the start of this case," Serka said outside the courtroom.

“There wasn't a gang rape, in fact. And [McMorris's] family is happy, not because my client is getting off something that he did, but that he was innocent and they believed him and everybody who knew him believed his innocence right from the start.”

Police said during their initial investigation that as many as half a dozen men may have been involved in the assault and that the victim had been drugged.

Conflicting accounts

McMorris did nothing wrong and accompanied the complainant and her friends to McDonald's after the party, Serka said.Serka said the charges have ruined his client's reputation: "That can never be erased. That can never be taken away."
After McMorris and Warrington were charged in January, the alleged victim released a statement through police, calling the September incident and the aftermath a “terrible ordeal.”

Her family released a statement at the same time.

"We are pleased to hear of Crown approving charges against these men," the statement read. "There has never been any doubt in our minds that our daughter was sexually assaulted.”

In January, the young offender who posted the pictures on Facebook was sentenced to one year's probation.

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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Mon 17 Jun, 2013 08:48 pm
this makes me sad and glad at the same time

Woman Who Falsely Accused Brian Banks of Rape Ordered to Pay $2.6M


Quote:
A woman whose false claim of rape sent former prep football star Brian Banks to prison was ordered to pay a $2.6 million judgment in connection with the case.

A Los Angeles Superior Court judge on Friday ordered Wanetta Gibson to pay a $1.5 million, plus an additional $1.1 million in fees, including for making a false claim and court-related costs, the Long Beach Press Telegram reported.

Gibson was a former high-school acquaintance of Banks in 2002 when she accused him of raping her at Long Beach Polytechnic High School, according to the California Innocence Project, an organization that helped exonerate Banks.

Gibson sued the Long Beach Unified School District claiming the school was not safe and won a $1.5 million settlement.

Gibson ultimately admitted she made up the story and a judge reversed Banks' conviction on May 24, 2012.

Banks signed this year to play with the NFL's Atlanta Falcons.

http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/Woman-Falsely-Accused-Brian-Banks-Rape-Ordered-to-Pay-26M-211689741.html

i predict tha we will see ever increasing numbers of innocent males thrown into our prisons on false rape claims that are championed by the state. at some point we will WAKE. THEFUCK. UP.

where does this guy sign up to get compensation for the ten years taken from him because the state could not be bothered to care about the truth when a woman accuses a man of rape?
BillRM
 
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Reply Tue 18 Jun, 2013 08:55 am
@hawkeye10,
Hawkeye what I find very annoying is that there is little to no criminal punishments for women who have been proven to had falsely cry rape.

Hell it is even far too common for women in children custody cases to knowingly falsely charging the fathers of the children with sexuality abusing those children.

Little or more likely no punishment once more of the women doing this and as a result not only harming the men involved but the children.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Tue 18 Jun, 2013 10:15 am
@BillRM,
isnt this like robbing a bank and when you get caught all you need to do is give the money back to get right with the law? not even that, because nowhere do I see where this man is getting his ten years of lost earning potential.

Where is the outrage?
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sun 18 Aug, 2013 11:25 pm
here you go Bill. I am sure that you are shocked
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In October 1997, Daryl Kelly was living with his wife, Charade, and their five children in Newburgh, N.Y., 90 miles north of New York City. Chaneya, their oldest child, was two months shy of her ninth birthday.
At the time, Daryl -- a Navy veteran who owned a local electronics repair shop -- says he was trying to kick a drug habit to take care of his kids. But Charade was at rock bottom, even turning to prostitution to feed her addiction.
Chaneya remembers being downstairs with her father one morning before school when she had to use the bathroom. When she was done, she went upstairs, and that’s when Chaneya says her mother asked her a question that came out of the blue.
“She repeatedly asked me, has my dad touched me,” recalled Chaneya. “I was like, ‘What do you mean, did he touch me?’ And she was like, ‘Did he touch you in your no-no spot?’ And I would repeatedly say no.”
Chaneya says the more she denied any abuse, the more irate her mother became – and even threatened her with a belt. According to Chaneya, her mother said, “If you don’t tell me the answer that I want to hear, I’m going to beat you.” To avoid a beating, says Chaneya, she told her mother that her father molested her even though it wasn't true.
On the morning of October 29, 1997 Newburgh police took Kelly downtown for questioning. They found some of his answers suspicious.
For example, when they asked him why his semen and fingerprints were found on his daughter, Daryl scrambled for an explanation. According to a police report, he said, “My wife is doing drugs and alcohol. Maybe she’s setting me up.’“
He didn’t know until later that no semen or fingerprints had been found.
In fact, there was no definitive forensic evidence that Chaneya had been raped. While a doctor's report did conclude that there was "possible sexual abuse" because of some redness, Chaneya’s hymen was intact even though she claimed her father had penetrated her.
But with both Chaneya and her mom telling police the same story, it was enough for police. Daryl Kelly was charged with multiple counts of rape and sodomy.
Kelly -- who had never before been convicted of a felony -- refused a plea deal that would have made him eligible for parole in six years, and within a year he faced a jury. Based on Chaneya’s graphic testimony, it took them just hours to find her father guilty, and he was sentenced to 20 to 40 years and barred from having any contact with his children.
After her father’s conviction, authorities removed Chaneya from her mother's custody, citing Charade’s drug abuse, and she was sent to live with her grandmother, Pat Thomas, a Pentecostal minister. It was there – six months after her father’s conviction -- that Chaneya told her grandmother that she was never raped, and that the story had been born out of fear of her mother.
Grandmother Pat took Chaneya to Daryl’s appellate attorney, who videotaped her recantation, in which she says she learned words like “penis” and “vagina” from the prosecution team, and the mechanics of sex from pornography stashed under her parents’ bed. On the tape, she looks uncomfortable, mumbling short, hesitant answers like, “No,” and “I think so.”
Her mother, Charade, also submitted an affidavit to the court, swearing she threatened to beat Chaneya unless she said her father raped her.
The prosecutor argued that the recantation looked coerced, and the same judge who oversaw his original trial a year earlier agreed. He refused to vacate Kelly's conviction.
As the years went by, Daryl began studying the law in prison, and began the long slog of filing appeals -- all of which have been denied.
Meanwhile, Chaneya never gave up on her father. When she was 15, she convinced the courts to allow her to once again have contact with him – and that’s when she went to visit him in prison.
“The first thing my dad did was that he hugged me and he told me that he loved me and … that he doesn’t blame me for anything,” Chaneya recalled. “It was priceless to me.”
Today, Chaneya’s mom Charade says she’s been drug-free for many years. In a recent interview with NBC News, Charade confirmed that she threatened her daughter with a beating, and said she can’t remember why she was so determined to make Chaneya say she had been molested. She blames the incident on a drug binge. “I [had been] gone for three days. And I was really deep in the grip of my addiction.” When asked why she would threaten her daughter if she didn’t lie, Charade said, “I have no idea, I really don’t.”
From behind prison walls, Daryl Kelly has written to anyone who will listen to his story. Last year, one of those letters landed on the desk of Thomas Schellhammer, the head of the newly formed Conviction Review Bureau at the N.Y. Attorney General's office. Schellhammer contacted Orange County District Attorney Frank Phillips, the county’s elected chief prosecutor for almost 30 years, who was in charge when Daryl Kelly stood trial.
In an interview with NBC News, Phillips strongly defended the integrity of the original prosecution, saying he trained his prosecutors “that truth is the most important thing,” and stressing that a jury had found Kelly guilty.
“The system says he’s not innocent, that the credibility of Chaneya was tested, that the issues surrounding her testimony back in 1998 were addressed,” said Phillips.
Phillips also said it was “not unique” for the victim of a crime like rape or molestation to want to protect the abuser by withdrawing an accusation. “It’s part of a dynamic that we deal with. Whether it’s sex crimes or crimes of domestic violence, that is not unusual.”
After hearing from Schellhammer, Phillips recused himself from reexamining the Kelly case and referred it to a committee of the state association of county district attorneys for review. Onondaga County District Attorney William Fitzpatrick is currently leading a re-investigation; his office told NBC News it declined comment while the review is underway. Detective Thomas Mancinelli, who led the original police investigation in Newburgh, also declined to comment on the case.
Is it possible that Chaneya is simply repressing a horrible memory, that her father really did rape her, and she feels guilty about putting him behind bars?
She says no, that she’d have no problem with her father remaining in prison if he were guilty. “I wouldn’t be here having this conversation. “
As for Daryl, he says he won’t truly be free until he’s vindicated. “This fight will never end,” he said. “I will continue to fight for this. This is my reputation. This is my decree. This is the truth. It's not just for me. It's for my daughter as well.”

http://investigations.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/08/18/19936408-daughter-i-lied-and-sent-my-dad-to-prison-for-rape?lite
panzade
 
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Reply Mon 19 Aug, 2013 01:18 am
While reports that over a million American women annually are the victims of rape or attempted rape, swirl around them, Heckel And Jeckle congratulate each other for finding three nut-case women who made up rape charges.

God help us.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-gmEszhXRNY0/T3DQK596BMI/AAAAAAAAAD4/6e9vw8EuYME/s1600/Heckle+and+Jeckle.jpg
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Mon 19 Aug, 2013 01:26 am
@panzade,
god help us from the lack of interest from the state that an innocent man is in one if its jails.
BillRM
 
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Reply Mon 19 Aug, 2013 03:55 am
@hawkeye10,
Quote:
god help us from the lack of interest from the state that an innocent man is in one if its jails.


To say nothing of scientific studies that had shown from 25 to just short of 50 percents of woman who cry rape are doing so falsely.

Also studies that had shown in divorces more then half the time a woman claimed that her husband had sexually molested their children it is a completely false charge.

Then woman came on to a locally famous man that was just walking down the street and got him to meet her a few days later for dinner. After having dinner she took him to her business office after hours and they have sex on her boss desk.

Everything was fine until she found that she needed to explain how she had became pregnant to her live in boyfriend who could not father children.

So at that point the sex became a rape!!!!!!!!

Then there is the little manner of redefining rape so that when a woman is at a party for example and after drinking found and jumped into a bed of a sleeping man in a back room and begin to have sex with him then regretting it the next day can have him court marshal for raping her.

So between the lies and the claims of lack of valid consent from adult women own damn voluntary drinking there are more then a few not guilty men in prisons or at best who needed to go through hell by being charge and finding no matter what the outcome one can never completely removed the label of rapist.

As Firefly had stated concerning two cops that was found not guilty of rape it does not matter what the jury found at least to her.
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BillRM
 
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Reply Mon 19 Aug, 2013 04:28 am
@hawkeye10,
Quote:
For example, when they asked him why his semen and fingerprints were found on his daughter, Daryl scrambled for an explanation. According to a police report, he said, “My wife is doing drugs and alcohol. Maybe she’s setting me up.’“
He didn’t know until later that no semen or fingerprints had been found.
In fact, there was no definitive forensic evidence that Chaneya had been raped


One damn good reason not to talk to cops when they are investigating you for a crime is that they are free to lied to you but in a lot of states and under US Federal law they can charge you with lying to them whether you had or have not done so.

Repeat after me I will not talk to you without my lawyer.
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BillRM
 
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Reply Mon 19 Aug, 2013 06:48 pm
I love it Hawkeye that a posting stating that innocent men in prison are no big deal get three votes up and both of our postings get three votes down.

You need to wonder about both the morals and intellect of the readers of this thread.

Highly amusing in any case.
 

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