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Hey, Can A Woman "Ask To Get Raped"?

 
 
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Mon 19 Aug, 2013 07:25 pm
@BillRM,
a man highly likely to be currently abused by the state is being talked about and the prosecutors go "ho-hum"....very enlightening.
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panzade
 
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Reply Wed 21 Aug, 2013 02:34 pm
This is very disturbing. Islamic in essence.

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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Wed 21 Aug, 2013 02:55 pm
@panzade,
considering that "rape" is now sometimes sex that happens with less than ideal consent the laws allowing the "rapist" to ask for some rights as a father seem reasonable. rape is no longer necessarly the act of a violent sexual assault, a fact that we need to be mindfull of as we seek justice.
BillRM
 
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Reply Wed 21 Aug, 2013 05:01 pm
@hawkeye10,
You are hundred percent correct Hawkeye if rape was as it was define when the society was saner I can see not allowing rapists to have any interactions with the children born from the act of rape, but not with the nonsense of rape due to "invalid" consent and the regret of the women who gave that invalid consent after the fact.

Sorry just because a woman conceived a child during an all night drinking spree does not mean that the child should not get to know his or her father.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Wed 21 Aug, 2013 05:12 pm
@BillRM,
or how about when a husband wakes up his wife with an non previously approved *******? That is now rape, so he should not be able to seek fathers rights?
firefly
 
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Reply Wed 21 Aug, 2013 07:59 pm
Quote:
August 21, 2013
Vanderbilt Rape Case Update: Four former football players plead not guilty on rape charges

(CBS)NASHVILLE, Tenn. -- Four former Vanderbilt football players have pleaded not guilty to charges against them in the June 23 rape of an unconscious woman at an on-campus dormitory, CBS affiliate WTFV reports.

Attorneys for Brandon Vandenburg, 20, of Calif., Cory Batey, 19, of Nashville, and Brandon Banks, 18, of Md., entered pleas on their behalf during a Wednesday arraignment. The three were not in the courtroom.

A fourth former football player, Jaborian "Tip" McKenzie, 19, of Woodville, Miss., had reportedly already entered a "not guilty" plea, and waived his right to an arraignment.

Vandenburg, Batey, Banks and McKenzie were indicted August 9 on five counts of aggravated rape and two counts of aggravated sexual battery. Police said there was "compelling, unsettling evidence" against the four. Vandenburg was also charged with one count of tampering with evidence and one count of unlawful photography.

Vanderbilt dismissed the four players June 29 and kicked them off campus pending the investigation by the Metro Nashville Police Department's sex crimes unit.

Suspended Commodore wide receiver Chris Boyd also pleaded not guilty to being an accessory in the incident after allegedly giving advice on how to cover up the crime. An attorney entered Boyd's plea in a separate courtroom. He was suspended from the team after his indictment last week.

The university was made aware of the situation when officials noticed concerning behavior by the defendants on the dorm's hallway surveillance recordings, the station reports.

On Friday, two other California men were also indicted in connection with the case. Nineteen-year-old Miles Joseph Finley and 20-year-old Joseph Dominick Quinzio, both of California, were charged with one felony count each of tampering with evidence. Police said Finley and Quinzio are acquaintances of defendant Brandon Vandenburg.

Finley and Quinzio are accused of tampering with certain electronic evidence in the case, the station reports. Both remain jailed in California on $150,000 bond each and are awaiting extradition to Tennessee.

Quinzio, however, is fighting extradition, The Tennessean reports. His lawyer said a warrant for his client's arrest was based on outdated information and that Quinzio was on the "outskirts" of the case based on a text message he received from one of the defendants, reports the paper.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-57599543-504083/vanderbilt-rape-case-update-four-former-football-players-plead-not-guilty-on-rape-charges/
firefly
 
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Reply Wed 21 Aug, 2013 08:11 pm
@firefly,
Quote:
Vanderbilt rape case: More charges pending?
By Kamal Wallace
August 17, 2013

The investigation into the alleged rape of a 21-year-old student on the campus of Vanderbilt University continues to unfold.

Police say the investigation first came to light after officials reviewed surveillance camera footage in the early morning hours of June 23, 2013, of a hallway of Gillette House dormitory regarding an unrelated incident when they saw four football players acting suspiciously.

After an investigation, police say a female student was unconscious when she was allegedly raped in a dorm room. Vanderbilt University police were notified of the incident the night of June 25. The next day, campus police contacted the Metro Nashville Police Department's Sex Crimes Unit on June 26.

"Our first thoughts are for the victim, a Vanderbilt student, and we convey to her and her family our deepest sympathies and sorrow. We will continue to offer her all of our services and support," read a statement from Beth Fortune, Vanderbilt Vice Chancellor for Public Affairs.

On June 28, Fortune announced that four players were dismissed from the team for violating team rules and suspended from school. However, they were not publicly identified until July 16. On August 9, the four were indicted on charges of rape and taken into police custody.

"We are shocked and saddened by the allegations that such an assault has taken place on our campus and that they include members of our football team. When certain facts first became known to us, we moved swiftly and decisively to remove these players from the team, suspend them from the university on an interim basis and bar them from campus," Fortune said in a statement.

Who are they?

The four defendants are Brandon Vandenburg, 20, of Indio, California; Cory Batey, 19, of Nashville, Tennessee; Brandon Banks, 19, of Brandywine, Maryland; and Jaborian "Tip" McKenzie, 19, of Woodville, Mississippi. All four did not play for the Commodores football team last season.

Police say each of the men are charged with five counts of aggravated rape and two counts of aggravated sexual battery. Vandenburg is also charged with one count of tampering with evidence and one count of unlawful photography.

Police spokesman Don Aaron said authorities are not ruling out the possibility of additional charges as the investigation continues. Police said the victim was friends with at least one of the former players.

All four are scheduled for an arraignment hearing on August 21. McKenzie, who has already waived his appearance at the hearing, pleaded not guilty to the charges against him.

According to HLN affiliate WTVF, aggravated rape is a class A felony in Tennessee and the penalty is 15 to 60 years in prison, plus a fine of up to $50,000.

Star wide receiver, two others indicted

Three more people, including a wide receiver on Vanderbilt University football team, were indicted Friday in connection with the investigation.

Chris Boyd faces a felony count of being an accessory after the fact, according to the Nashville, Tennesee, police department. Police allege Boyd took part in an attempted cover-up through advice he gave to his former teammates.

Boyd surrendered to authorities Saturday morning and has since posted bond. Boyd, who caught five touchdowns for the Commodores last season, has been suspended from the team, pending further review.

The university released a statement after Boyd's indictment, saying all of the allegations, including those brought on Friday, are "deeply troubling."

Police say the two others -- Miles Finley, 19, of Bermuda Dunes, California and Dominick Quinzio, 20, of Palm Desert, California -- are charged with one felony count of tampering with evidence. Police say Finley and Quinzio are friends of Vanderburg and allegedly tampered with electronic evidence in the case.

Finley was arrested by Riverside County, California, sheriff's deputies after initially trying to flee, according to Nashville police. The search continues for Quinzio. Bond for Finley and Quinzio is set at $150,000 each.

http://www.hlntv.com/article/2013/08/17/vanderbilt-students-football-campus-rape-case
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BillRM
 
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Reply Wed 21 Aug, 2013 08:35 pm
@hawkeye10,
The fool that go by the name of Dr. Phil with an afternoon talk show is now in trouble for tweeting is it ok to have sex with a drunk woman?.....LOL

Strangely no one ever ask if it ok to have sex with a drunk man for some strange reason.

All adults, in any case, are responsible for their own behaviors and actions under the voluntary influence of drugs or alcohol and unless we are going down the road that women are not adults when it come to sex the answer is unless she is so out of it she is not in touch with her surrounding is why the hell not.

If a woman find that she is unhappy with who she picked as sexual partners when under the influence the answer is not to cry rape but instead not to get herself in that condition in situations where she might be picking out sexual partners.
firefly
 
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Reply Wed 21 Aug, 2013 08:58 pm
@BillRM,
Quote:
All adults, in any case, are responsible for their own behaviors and actions under the voluntary influence of drugs or alcohol and unless we are going down the road that women are not adults when it come to sex the answer is unless she is so out of it she is not in touch with her surrounding is why the hell not.

Why the hell not? Because that is rape.

And since men, like all adults, are responsible for their own behaviors and actions, if they choose to violate rape laws, by sexually assaulting a female who is in such a state, they should not be surprised if they find themselves arrested and charged with rape.

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Dr. Phil (@DrPhil): Sex Without Consent Is Never OK! Apologize for “Sex With Drunk Girls” Tweet
Carmen Rios

Petition by
Carmen Rios
Washington, DC
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On Tuesday afternoon, Dr. Phil asked his Twitter followers this question: If a girl is drunk, is it OK to have sex with her? Reply yes or no to @drphil #teensaccused

As a former college sexual assault activist who taught about rape and consent and friend to many survivors, I am shocked and appalled by this question.

One in four women in the United States will be raped in their lifetime. Lesson 101 in my courses was that sexual contact without verbal, sober, conscious consent is rape. And yet, this respected television doctor is questioning whether sex with a person who is incapacitated is rape at all.

There is no question, Dr Phil: rape is rape.

Earlier this year I started a petition on change.org with a college football player, Connor Clancy, asking high school coaches to teach young athletes about rape and sexual assault. We launched this in the days after the Steubenville trial, in which two high school football players were charged with raping a fellow student who was drunk to the point of being unable to consent. Their defense attorneys argued that the young men charged didn’t know it was rape when they committed it. We won and hundreds of thousands of young athletes now have access to the education Dr. Phil appears to need himself.

The key to ending the plague of rape and sexual assault in this country is educating young people about the difference between consensual sex and rape and having Dr. Phil approach that topic on national television would be a huge step forward. Unfortunately, the use of the hashtag #teensaccused implies that the story around the epidemic of rape and sexual assault in the United States, from Steubenville to Notre Dame, should be centered around the young men who raped as “victims” rather than the other way around. It’s the opposite. Survivors of rape deserve, and our nation needs them to have, a national platform like the Dr. Phil Show in which to discuss their experiences. Sadly, that doesn't seem to be his plan.

Even though he took the tweet down, of course Dr. Phil should admit his error in judgement and apologize. But he needs to go a step further. I am asking Dr. Phil to produce a show that shines a light on survivors of rape and sexual assault and begin a national conversation about the specifics of consent – which includes not raping people while they are drunk or otherwise unable to consent.

The many people who have survived rape -- not committed it -- are the ones who should have a national platform to discuss how we as a society can make sure tragedies like Steubenville never happen again.

Please sign my petition asking Dr. Phil to publicly announce that he will produce and air a show that centers survivors’ voices and educates the public about the true definition of rape and sexual assault, as well as how to prevent it

http://www.change.org/petitions/dr-phil-drphil-sex-without-consent-is-never-ok-apologize-for-sex-with-drunk-girls-tweet

BillRM
 
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Reply Wed 21 Aug, 2013 09:33 pm
@hawkeye10,
Then Hawkeye we have rape due to the power imbalance theory where women can not grant valid consent if there is too large of a power difference between the man and the woman.

So Mrs. Gates when she was a lowly middle manager at Microsoft was a victim of rape by the CEO and billionaire owner of the firm she was working for during their courtship.

Oh for the good old days when rape was just that rape and not the craziness the meaning had been change to.
firefly
 
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Reply Wed 21 Aug, 2013 09:48 pm
@BillRM,
http://www.adrants.com/images/head_up_ass.jpg
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Wed 21 Aug, 2013 10:46 pm
@firefly,
shocked that anyone would dare to publicly posit the idea that a law might not be reasonable????? Sounds like our very own police state advocate, her name is Firefly.
BillRM
 
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Reply Thu 22 Aug, 2013 12:19 am
@hawkeye10,
Oh Hawkeye, I forgot the idea of rape by fraud IE lying to some woman to get between her legs.

Quote:


http://lawweb.usc.edu/centers/clhc/events/feature/documents/Rubenfeld.pdf

The Riddle of Rape-by-Deception
and the Myth of Sexual Autonomy
Jed Rubenfeld*
In the summer of 2010, a Jerusalem man was convicted of rape – not
for using force on his victim, but for posing as a Jewish bachelor seriously
interested in her, when in fact he was an Arab husband with (as his lawyer
would put it) only “one goal” in mind.1
Said the court:
If [the complainant] had not thought the accused was a Jewish
bachelor interested in a serious romantic relationship, she would not
have co-operated. . . .
. . . The court is obliged to protect the public interest from
sophisticated, smooth-tongued criminals who can deceive innocent
victims at an unbearable price – the sanctity of their bodies and
souls.2
Even as the Kashour case was pending in Israel, a bill was pending in
Massachusetts that would have authorized life imprisonment for anyone who
“has sexual intercourse . . . with a person having obtained that person’s
consent by the use of fraud, concealment or artifice.”
3
In Tennessee, rape is
already defined to include “sexual penetration . . . accomplished by fraud.”4
In
Idaho, as of 2011, a man commits rape when he has sex with a woman who,
because of his “artifice, pretense or concealment,” believes him to be
“someone other than” who he is.5
In Canada, a supreme court justice has
stated that rape is committed whenever sex is procured through “dishonesty.

Thus “rape-by-deception” is a live and intensifying issue in criminal
law. The problem it poses is easy to describe. Most people don’t think “rapeby-deception” is actually rape at all. I’ll bet the reader doesn’t think so.
Neither, as a rule, do Anglo-American courts.
7
The problem is that we ought
to think sex-by-deception is rape, and courts ought to so hold, given what we
say rape is.
Rape, according to a widely shared view, means sex without the
victim’s consent. Rape was often defined in just these terms by common law
judges;8
it is explicitly so defined in many modern statutes, including those of
the United Kingdom;9
and it is frequently so understood in contemporary
usage, both lay and legal.
10 But sex-by-deception is sex without consent,
because a consent obtained by deception, as courts have long and repeatedly
held outside of rape law, is “no consent” at all.11

hawkeye10
 
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Reply Thu 22 Aug, 2013 12:22 am
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:

Oh Hawkeye, I forgot the idea of rape by fraud IE lying to some woman to get between her legs.



How DARE YOU suggest that the government could have possibly gotten policing the sex act wrong! You would be called on by the cops shortly to explain yourself if the Firefly's had their way.
BillRM
 
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Reply Thu 22 Aug, 2013 12:36 am
@hawkeye10,
Quote:
How DARE YOU suggest that the government could have possibly gotten policing the sex act wrong! You would be called on by the cops shortly to explain yourself if the Firefly's had their way.


Love the idea of fulling the jail cells with every man who had claimed to be an airline pilot or a doctor in a bar or just not married for that matter.

Or even a real doctor who have had sex with a patient.

There is no end to how we should protect poor stupid child like women it would seems with the rape laws.
firefly
 
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Reply Thu 22 Aug, 2013 09:43 am
@hawkeye10,
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firefly
 
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Reply Thu 22 Aug, 2013 09:48 am
@BillRM,
Quote:
There is no end to how we should protect poor stupid child like women it would seems with the rape laws.

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firefly
 
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Reply Thu 22 Aug, 2013 10:19 am
Quote:
"Redefining Rape": A Brief History of Rape In America
by Sarah Begley
Stanford professor Estelle Freedman's new book examines how sex crimes oppressed women and blacks in the age of suffrage and segregation.

In 1793, 17-year-old Lanah Sawyer was pushed into a brothel and raped by a seemingly respectable man who had taken her for a walk in the streets of New York. In court, her assailant’s attorney said she had basically consented to sex when she agreed to go walking with him, and warned the jury against placing “the life of a citizen in the hands of a woman.” The man was acquitted.

Both parties in this case were white, and the strangeness of the verdict has something to do with a 1765 index to the laws of Maryland: “RAPE: See Negroes.”

What do these facts have in common? They support the notion that rape historically “reinforced the exclusivity of citizenship,” in the words of Estelle Freedman. A professor at Stanford, she’s the author of a new book, Redefining Rape: Sexual Violence in the Era of Suffrage and Segregation, which examines how a culture that historically distrusted both women and blacks conspired to keep both out of lawmaking—a process that has everything to do with definitions of rape.

For much of American history, white men could own others’ bodies—not only black men and women in slavery, but also white women in marriage. Until quite recently, for instance, it was not illegal for a husband to rape his wife. In the 19th century, if a young woman was raped and impregnated, her father could even sue the assailant for the lost income from his daughter’s incapacitation. Slave owners could buy black women specifically to serve their sexual urges.

With emancipation and other reforms, the laws evolved, but the practice did not. “Legal change,” Freedman said in an interview with The Daily Beast, “does not necessarily change culture.”

Throughout the 19th century, women seldom successfully brought rape charges against their white assailants if they did not have an impeccable record of chastity. Proof of full resistance was critical. In many states, the age of consent was 10.

But it was a completely different story if the accused assailant was black. Within the law, he might be hung or castrated. Outside the law, vigilantes might lynch him.

Under Jim Crow, black men could do little to defend themselves against false accusations. Similarly, without the vote, and with no presence on juries, women could do little to avenge the crimes white men committed against them. And when they did see justice, it was with a protective, proprietary sense that women were incapable of defending themselves, and that their sexual virtue was paramount to their worth.

Economic conditions played a strong role in all this sexual inequality. “The extent of lynching in the South fluctuated over time,” writes Freedman, “correlating with economic conditions. During the deep agricultural depression of the 1890’s, the practice peaked, suggesting that hard times made poorer whites more likely to attack blacks.”

Conversely, as white women began to enter the workforce and spent more time in the public sphere, they began to “draw the connection between women’s economic independence and their freedom from unwanted sexual attentions.” They used this newfound independence to lay the groundwork for many of the laws that would protect their daughters and granddaughters.

Have we come a long way? Sure: black men can have sex with white women without being automatically accused of rape. Women can bring rape charges even if they aren’t virgins, and even if they’re married to their assailants. And anyone accused of sexual assault has access to a trial by jury of peers.

But much of the rhetoric has been slow to change. Compare two statements, a century apart, on women’s sexuality: a doctor wrote in 1913 that rape wasn’t really easy, because “the mere crossing of the knees absolutely prevents penetration…a man must struggle desperately to penetrate the vagina of a vigorous, virtue-protecting girl.” Last year, Rick Santorum supporter Foster Friess said, “Back in my day, they used Bayer aspirin for contraceptives. The gals put it between their knees and it wasn't that costly.” Then, as now, men blamed women for their own sexual misfortune based on how close they kept their knees together.

Freedman also sees a correlation in the mistrust of women who reported rape then and now. “The issue in our time,” she said, “would be the issue of acquaintance rape or date rape. The critics would say, ‘If you drank, if you went to a fraternity party, if you invited him into your room, you’re responsible—women are equal, we don’t need to protect them.’”

A sign of progress, albeit a fraught one: in the Steubenville rape case, the black defendant, Ma’lik Richmond, “was widely regarded as the more sympathetic defendant,” as The New Yorker recently reported. His story followed the parameters of an underprivileged black kid blamed for the crimes of the entitled white guys he was trying to fit in with. Putting actual guilt aside, this narrative is proof of the long journey we’ve taken as a country.

“Regardless of who did what,” Freedman said, we can learn a lot from “how people are talking about it, and who are they making assumptions about, and who aren’t they making assumptions about.” These assumptions helped keep citizenship out of black and female hands for decades—now, finally, the culture is beginning to catch up with the law.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/witw/articles/2013/08/22/redefining-rape-tackles-the-the-rape-of-citizenship.html

hawkeye10
 
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Reply Thu 12 Sep, 2013 12:44 am
@firefly,
Michael Le Vell cleared: Should rape suspects get anonymity?

Quote:
In the wake of Coronation Street actor Michael Le Vell being cleared of child rape and other sex abuse charges, the question of whether suspects in such cases should be granted anonymity, just as complainants are, arises once more.

Mr Le Vell, who plays Kevin Webster in the soap, told the jury during his trial that he was "fighting for his life". Others wrongly accused of serious sex offences say the experience has devastated the rest of their lives.

The question of anonymity for suspects in sex abuse or rape cases is one that sharply divides opinion.

In 1976, rape defendants were granted anonymity by the government, but 12 years later that protection was removed.



Anybody who rapes someone deserves a rather unprintable penalty but I think the pendulum has swung too far - it's now far too easy for a woman to cry wolf”

Christine Hamilton
In 2006, the Liberal Democrats voted for anonymity at their conference and in 2010 the issue turned up again in the coalition agreement, but a pledge to introduce anonymity for rape suspects in England and Wales until conviction was dropped when ministers said there was not enough evidence to justify a change in the law.

'Hauled through mud'
They said they had examined a number of key areas, including the primary argument against anonymity of suspects - that publicity of a person's name often prompts further victims of an offender or witnesses to an offence to come forward.

But as Mr Le Vell attempts to get his life back on track, including a probable return to his on-screen role in the ITV soap, those who have been through similar situations know just how difficult that will be.

Christine Hamilton, who was wrongly accused of rape alongside her husband, then-Tory MP Neil Hamilton, in 2003, says: "The character and reputation of Michael Le Vell, an innocent man, has been hauled through the mud.

"He will never be able to throw off the nudge-nudge, wink-winks.
"It's outrageous that we should know who the accused is but not the accuser, who the jury obviously think is a serial liar."

Solicitor Nick Freeman agrees that even after someone has been cleared, there are always some left thinking "there's no smoke without fire".

In 2009, Mr Freeman defended another soap actor, who was accused of groping a model in a nightclub and trying to force his hand up her dress. A jury cleared him in less than seven minutes.

Nick Freeman
Solicitor Nick Freeman defended an Emmerdale actor whose life was devastated by false allegations
"It had a devastating effect on a charming young man whose career has taken a completely different path. It will remain with him for the rest of his years," he says.

He thinks anonymity should be granted to both defendant and complainant in cases of alleged sexual offences, but with the provision for an application to be made to a judge if the suspect is thought to be a serial offender or there is a hope other victims or witnesses might come forward.

In February, Maura McGowan, chairwoman of the Bar Council of England and Wales, which represents lawyers, suggested defendants should get anonymity unless convicted.

She said it was justified because sex offences carried "such a stigma".

Ms McGowan accepted there were arguments on both sides, as publicity in some cases could encourage other victims to come forward.

Mrs Hamilton agrees there should be anonymity for both parties, at least until the conclusion of a trial.


The system is stacked up against them [rape victims] from the very start of the investigation and in court as well”

Alex Brew
Women Against Rape
"Anybody who rapes someone deserves a rather unprintable penalty but I think the pendulum has swung too far. It's now far too easy for a woman to cry wolf," she says.

Stephen Cooper, who was wrongly accused of sexual offences 25 years ago and now runs website falselyaccused.co.uk, backs anonymity for defendants until the point of conviction.

The effects of being publicly named are "colossal", he says, adding that Mr Le Vell "lived two years of absolute hell" due to the publicity of his case.

"The minute someone switches on the television and sees him, they're going to make comments; comments have been made on Twitter and Facebook" he says.

'Failing victims'
Rape charity Women Against Rape says Mrs Hamilton is dealing in the myth that lots of women make up rape allegations.

Its spokeswoman, Alex Brew, points to comments from Keir Starmer, the director of public prosecutions, who said in March that it was a "misplaced belief" that false accusations of rape are commonplace.

She is firmly against granting anonymity to rape suspects, and says she has the police and all the mainstream political parties on her side.

It would, she argues, be the end of open justice and it is, in fact, the rape victim who is being failed by the justice system.

"The system is stacked up against them from the very start of the investigation and in court as well," she says.

While a growing number of rape victims are coming forward, she is concerned that investigations are being dropped and cases closed before all of the evidence has been gathered.

She also argues that giving only rape defendants anonymity marks rape out as being different from other crimes, when it is no more stigmatised than murder or terrorism.

But Mr Freeman disagrees with that point. "Murder does not carry the same degree of social revulsion and stigma as rape. When you hear about a murder, you feel sympathy, whereas you react to a child rape on an emotional plane and feel revulsion."

The Association of Chief Police Officers says the "welfare of rape victims needs to remain a priority".

A spokeswoman adds: "Our main concern would be in regard to the impact any changes on anonymity would have on victims, in particular on their confidence to come forward and report rape or abuse."

The arguments on both sides look set to go on for many years to come.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-24037910

hell no, that would seriously get in the way of the main purpose of the courts, vengeance..if the accused is innocent oh well, pounding on them will send a message to the guilty so it is all good!
BillRM
 
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Reply Thu 12 Sep, 2013 05:56 am
@hawkeye10,
For anyone to file a knowingly false charge of rape the punishment should be on the same level as the crime of rape itself.

After a few false accusers are sentence to five or ten years in prison the problem would be greatly reduce, in my opinion.

Right now a false charge have little to no punishment in the US.

The UK is a little better if not a great deal better in this regard.
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