Hey, Can A Woman "Ask To Get Raped"?

Hey, Can A Woman "Ask To Get Raped"?

More taking away the rights of adults to consent to sex.

What I love is the Fireflies of the world not only picture men as powerful sexual predators but women as sexual sheep that need the state in order to protected their best interests from their own bad judgments.

The bigger problem is the the masses support the state's massive increase in regulating sexuality in particular and intimate relationship in general. Where I grew up, when I grew up, the overwhelming sentiment was that these things were none of the states business.

Sodomy laws in the United States, which outlawed a variety of sexual acts, were historically universal. While they often targeted sexual acts between persons of the same sex, many statutes employed definitions broad enough to outlaw certain sexual acts between persons of different sexes as well, sometimes even acts between married persons.

Through the 20th century, the gradual liberalization of American sexual mores led to the elimination of sodomy laws in most states. During this time, the Supreme Court upheld the constitutionality of sodomy laws in Bowers v. Hardwick in 1986. However, in 2003 the Supreme Court reversed the decision with Lawrence v. Texas, invalidating sodomy laws in the remaining fourteen states.

In 1778 Thomas Jefferson wrote a law in Virginia which contained a punishment of castration for men who engage in sodomy, however, what was intended by Jefferson as a liberalization of the sodomy laws in Virginia at that time was rejected by the Virginia Legislature, which continued to prescribe death as the maximum penalty for the crime of sodomy in that state.

Prior to 1962, sodomy was a felony in every state, punished by a lengthy term of imprisonment and/or hard labor...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodomy_laws_in_the_United_States

The bigger problem is the the masses support the state's massive increase in regulating sexuality in particular and intimate relationship in general.

And sexual assaults/rapes are not "intimate relationships"--and your failure to understand that, and your failure to distinguish consenting sex between competent adults from sexual assault, has been evident throughout this topic.

Carer carried out sex attacks on three elderly patients at nursing home
25 June 2012

A carer raped a 65-year-old dementia patient at the nursing home where he worked.

Stephen Murray also confessed to sexually abusing two other Alzheimer's sufferers, aged 84 and 74, at the South Lanarkshire facility.

The 44-year-old was caught by a colleague with his trousers at his ankles and a resident naked from the waist down at the Ashgill home.

On Monday the High Court in Glasgow heard that Murray stabbed himself with a pair of scissors while waiting for police to arrest him when fellow workers caught him abusing the pensioner.

Advocate depute Alison Di Rollo said: "She looked in at two or three of the residents' rooms to see if he was there. When she got to the 65-year-old woman's room the light was off, but the en-suite bathroom light was on and the door was ajar.

"She saw the accused standing at the bottom of the bed. His trousers and pants were at his ankles. The woman was lying on the bed naked from the waist down."

The court heard that when Murray was confronted by his shocked colleague he appeared agitated and embarrassed and said: "My trousers have fell down, my zip's burst."

The care home worker then phoned her manager and the police were contacted.

When he was interviewed at Hamilton Police Station, Murray admitted raping the woman added: "It was stupid. It was stupid, disgusting, because I know it's wrong. I just lost the plot. It was wrong, it was stupid, I hurt her."

Murray, from Larkhall, also admitted sexually abusing two other residents over a 16-month period between December 2010 and April 2012.

Judge Lord Turnbull placed the carer on the sex offenders register and deferred sentence on him until next month at the High Court in Edinburgh.

After the court hearing, Detective Inspector David Tassie said: "Stephen Murray has today pled guilty to a sickening catalogue of crimes which affected one of the most vulnerable sections of our community - the elderly and infirm.

"As soon as the first incident was brought to the attention of police an investigation was launched and a major incident room and specialist inquiry team established. This team of detectives led by myself included specially trained sexual offences liaison officers. The investigation soon established that the initial incident was not an isolated case within the home.

"We are grateful for the co-operation of the families in what was a very harrowing time for them and hope that this admission of guilt will assist them in coming to terms with the effects of these despicable crimes. I would like to reassure the public that we are satisfied that we have captured and acted on all the available evidence and would like to also reassure that Strathclyde Police remain committed to keeping the public safe, no matter where they are in our community."

Procurator fiscal for the West of Scotland, John Dunn, added: "Stephen Murray has admitted to a course of conduct involving the rape of an elderly victim whom he had previously sexually assaulted and attempted to rape. He also admitted sexually assaulting two other elderly women.

"All three of his victims had dementia and were residents at a care home where Murray worked. They were unable to speak or communicate verbally. It is difficult to imagine a more despicable or serious breach of trust."
http://local.stv.tv/glasgow/107862-carer-raped-65-year-old-dementia-sufferer-at-home-where-he-worked/

10 years for Padgate man who tried to rape elderly woman
Thursday 14th June 2012

A 28-YEAR-OLD man has been jailed for 10 years for attempting to rape an 80-year-old woman with dementia.

Jamie Waterworth, of Elizabeth Drive, Padgate, was told by Judge Roger Dutton: “What you did on that afternoon was extremely serious in order to satisfy what one can only describe as some perverted sexual gratification of your own.

“It’s hard to understand why someone of your age can approach an elderly lady in the way you did.

“Perhaps it was committed to exert power and control over her.”

Warrington Crown Court heard how Waterworth launched his attack on the afternoon of Christmas Eve, 2010.

During a week-long trial the court heard how his victim’s condition had declined to a point where she was no longer able to remember the incident and jurors had to watch a video of an interview filmed the day after the attack.

In it the woman told police, ‘he was trying to make love to me’ and ‘I told him to stop but he wasn’t answering me’.

Judge Dutton told Waterworth on Friday: “For this lady the impact was serious. She had at the time a clear recollection of what had taken place. She has deteriorated since then.”

Waterworth had a previous caution for indecent exposure dating back to when he was 13.

Simon Christie, defending, said Waterworth maintained his innocence despite his conviction.

He added the defendant had found life hard from a young age and had turned to drink. Reports showed during the time of the attack Waterworth had been drinking and was two to three times over the drink drive limit. He was ordered to sign the sex offenders’ register for life.

DC Nicola Morgan, from the Northern Area Public Protection Unit, said: “He chose to target the most vulnerable of victims within the community. His actions were despicable.”
http://www.thisischeshire.co.uk/news/9758935.10_years_for_man_who_tried_to_rape_elderly_woman/

June 13, 2012
Half Of Violent Victimizations Of The Elderly In Michigan From 2005-2009 Involved Serious Acts Of Violence

WASHINGTON, June 13, 2012 /PRNewswire via COMTEX/ -- Perpetrators of elder abuse were often related to the victims

A report released today by the Justice Department's Bureau of Justice Statistics (BJS) found that half of violent victimizations of persons age 65 or older involved serious violence, such as murder, rape, sexual assault, robbery and aggravated assault, based on data from crimes known to Michigan law enforcement from 2005 to 2009.

A family member was identified as the perpetrator in half of violent victimizations against the elderly during the five-year period. The victim's child or grandchild was the offender in nearly a third of the victimizations. An intimate partner was the perpetrator in about 13 percent, and other relatives were linked to about six percent of victimizations.

Elder abuse can take many forms, including physical abuse, sexual abuse, emotional or psychological abuse, financial or material exploitation, neglect and abandonment. Currently, no national data system captures information on elder abuse known to law enforcement; however, the FBI's National Incident-Based Reporting System (NIBRS) collects such data from all law enforcement agencies in sixteen states, as well as many other local jurisdictions. This study focused on incidents of violent physical and sexual abuse of elderly persons known to law enforcement in Michigan from 2005 to 2009, demonstrating how NIBRS data can be used to describe the level and characteristics of elder abuse in a specific jurisdiction.

About 13,220 violent crimes against the elderly came to the attention of law enforcement in Michigan from 2005 to 2009, or about 1.6 percent of the nearly 824,000 total violent victimizations in the state.

Overall, victims age 65 or older experienced the lowest annual rate of reported violence (204.5 violent victimizations per 100,000 persons in that age group), while persons ages 18 to 24 had the highest rate (3,917 violent victimizations per 100,000 persons in that age group). Despite a lower rate of reported violence, elderly victims were more likely than victims younger than age 65 to be murdered or to be robbed.

The majority (63.6 percent) of violent victimizations against persons age 65 or older took place inside a residence (house, apartment, or group quarters such as a residential or long-term care facility). Violence inside a residence typically took place in the late afternoon and evening, peaking around 8 p.m. The victim's child or grandchild was identified as the perpetrator in a third of the violence against elderly males in a residence and in nearly half of the violence against elderly females in a residence.

Other findings of the five-year analysis showed--

Elderly males experienced a rate of reported physical violence (247.7 per 100,000 males age 65 or older) that was 1.4 times higher than the rate for elderly females (172.9 per 100,000 females age 65 or older).

The rate of reported violent victimization by a stranger was more than two times greater for elderly males (65.5 per 100,000 males age 65 or older) than for elderly females (29.2 per 100,000 females age 65 or older).

Among the elderly, persons age 85 or older experienced a rate of rape and sexual assault (11.9 per 100,000 persons age 85 or older) that was three times greater than the rate for persons ages 65 to 84 (3.6 per 100,000 persons age 65 to 84).

An estimated 16.5 percent of violence against the elderly involved a firearm, and the majority of those firearms were handguns.

Four out of 10 elderly victims of violence were physically injured during the incident. An estimated 6.5 percent suffered a major physical injury, including 1.0 percent of victims who died as a result of the attack.

About a third (31.6 percent) of violent victimizations of the elderly resulted in an arrest being made. Offenses committed by the elderly victim's child or grandchild were most likely to result in an arrest (59.7 percent), compared to other relationship categories.

The report, Violent Crime against the Elderly Reported by Law Enforcement in Michigan, 2005-2009 (NCJ 238546), was written by BJS statistician Erica Smith. The reports, related documents and additional information about the Bureau of Justice Statistics' statistical publications and programs can be found on the BJS website at http://www.bjs.gov/ .

The Office of Justice Programs (OJP), headed by Acting Assistant Attorney General Mary Lou Leary, provides federal leadership in developing the nation's capacity to prevent and control crime, administer justice, and assist victims. OJP has six components: the Bureau of Justice Assistance; the Bureau of Justice Statistics; the National Institute of Justice; the Office of Juvenile Justice and Delinquency Prevention; the Office for Victims of Crime; and the Office of Sex Offender Sentencing, Monitoring, Apprehending, Registering, and Tracking. More information about OJP can be found at http://www.ojp.gov .

SOURCE Bureau of Justice Statistics
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/half-of-violent-victimizations-of-the-elderly-in-michigan-from-2005-2009-involved-serious-acts-of-violence-2012-06-13

Find me a law that forbids, or in any way limits, a competent adult from knowingly and willingly and freely consenting to sex.

I want to see the exact law.

Oh Arkansas is not the only state with such laws on the book "see article".

We need to protected those stupid adults women after all from their own bad judgments

You stated there is no such laws that limit adult women right to consent to sex and I had proven you are wrong and such laws are still in effect in a number of states that had not been yet overturn that limit adult women rights to consent to sex.

You didn't prove me wrong. You cited a portion of an Arkansas law which was overturned. And that law made no reference to gender.

And you have provided no links to any other state laws--the exact state laws--to support what you are saying regarding adult women

Again, that Michigan law hasn't been passed yet, and it may not pass.

I asked you to cite exact laws currently in effect.