Hey, Can A Woman "Ask To Get Raped"?

@BillRM,

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There are not enough prisons or jails in the world let alone the US to hold all the evil rapists in that case Hawkeye.

The expectation is that the oppression will work to drive reforms in behavior. It is an abuse of the individual at the hands of the state, but so long as the feminists are in partnership with the state and get to make the rules they dont care. Any chatter they have done about individual rights, personal fulfillment, or equality is for PR purposes only. We need to wise up enough to judge the feminists not on what they say, but by what they do......it is by watching what they do that we find out what they really care about.

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@hawkeye10,

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The expectation is that the oppression will work to drive reforms in behavior.

If by "oppression", you mean the arrest and prosecution of those accused of rape, yes, it is hoped that this will lead to a decrease in the incidence of rape.

Sad, but true, the "rights" of rapists to commit their crimes with impunity are being curtailed.

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The feminists get power and money with which to drive towards their utopia

Utopia would be a world without any sexual assaults/rapes.

Go learn the meaning of the word CONSENT.

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@firefly,

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Go learn the meaning of the word CONSENT.

That is rich coming from you, you being the person who has refused to define the term.

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@hawkeye10,

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That is rich coming from you, you being the person who has refused to define the term.

I don't define the term, nor do you. It is defined by state law, and the definition is contained in the sexual assault laws of every state--including the one you live in.

You can read, can't you?

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@firefly,

So on my wedding night when my wife and I had both had tied one on at the party with our friends and family the only way I could be completely safe and legal would be to refused to consummate the marriage until I get a low blood level reading on a tester for her?

Sorry there should be no need to grant the power to place their men into prison to women at their whim over sex during voluntary drinking.

As far as forcing men to pay women child support even in the cases of statutory rapes those laws need to be revisited big time.

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@BillRM,

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No even in the ideal world of Firefly we would still need to sadly wait until a woman get annoyed at her boyfriend/husband and declare a rape had occur due to her having sex under the influence with him.

They are working on that problem, and "snitch culture" is the answer, not only will women be encouraged to talk but anyone they talk to will be encouraged to come to the police so that the criminal can be properly dealt with. The woman wanting to jam up the guy is certainly not required. This also leaves the guy open to blackmail by the "victim" as well as anyone else who becomes aware of the crime, also a handy byproduct of the oppression laws so far as the feminists are concerned.

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@BillRM,

Do you ever draw a sober breath? Drunk

That's the only explanation I can think of for your perseverative, frankly stupid, comments regarding sexual intercourse with women who may be too intoxicated to be able to give fully knowing consent.

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So on my wedding night when my wife and I had both had tied one on at the party with our friends and family the only way I could be completely safe and legal would be to refused to consummate the marriage until I get a low blood level reading on a tester for her?

If you really believed that your wife would accuse you of rape on your wedding night, perhaps you should have done that. Rolling Eyes

Did you have reason to believe your new bride didn't want to have sex with you? Were you that conditioned to having women reject you? Laughing

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As far as forcing men to pay women child support even in the cases of statutory rapes those laws need to be revisited big time.

Right, men shouldn't have to support the children they helped to bring into the world, should they? Rape them, impregnate them, and walk away--is that your motto?

You really are a disgrace to men--decent men.

Take another drink and talk to Hawkeye. Drunk

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@firefly,

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Right, men shouldn't have to support the children they helped to bring into the world, should they? Rape them, impregnate them, and walk away--is that your motto?

If women have the right to regulate their fertility to the extent that they can elect to abort without the consent of or even consultation with the male then they should be solely responsible for regulating their ability to conceive. Modern Medicine allows for this, the man should have zero responsibility unless he has pre approved having a child, or does so after the fact.

Fair is fair. If you want men to pay child support to women who have kids that they dont want they you must also make women carry to term babies that the men want, unless there was a rape of the woman.

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@firefly,

I trust my wife and had done so for 20 years before she became my wife however a man freedom should not depend on if he had good judgment on picking his sexual partners but his actions instead.

I see no reason to grant women a free pass for their actions under the voluntary influence of alcohol concerning sex when they are fully responsible for their own actions under the voluntary influence in all others areas of life.

Of course I view women as adults and you seem to view them as children at least when it come to sex with men.

That their male sexual partners need to act as their guardians instead of their lovers.

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@hawkeye10,

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If women have the right to regulate their fertility to the extent that they can elect to abort without the consent of or even consultation with the male then they should be solely responsible for regulating their ability to conceive. Modern Medicine allows for this, the man should have zero responsibility unless he has pre approved having a child, or does so after the fact.

That go even more so when the male is a minor and the female is an adult when a child is conceived.

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@BillRM,

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That go even more so when the male is a minor and the female is an adult when a child is conceived.

Yes, but even as a general principle the way we assign responsibility for child birth is not fair to men and is 50 years behind actual practices. Our laws represent the age when conception could not be regulated by women, now that it can be their having a child should be their responsibility...they made the choice, or else failed to act responsibly.

Embarrassed

Damn, I forgot, women are never responsible for anything, it is always the man's fault. Sorry for my momentary fog of fantasy.

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@hawkeye10,

In a sane world once a man is told that he had conceived a child out of wedlock and without some upfront agreement with the woman beforehand concerning possible children he should had ex-numbers of days to tell the woman if he is willing to be a co-parent or give up all his rights to the child to be.

If he decide not to be a parent his finance responsibility should begin and end at half the cost for an abortion.

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@hawkeye10,

i hear you Hawkeye and as a new unmarried father i completely understand, But we need to dive deeper into the moral aspect of the man and his willingness to support a child in the ways support is needed today, ie monetary child support. That is the unfortunate. That men are legal bound to pay "money"
We are being forced to support a family in such a way that is unnatural.
Men have a huge problem with the monetary child support mandates, but i assure no man would let his child be put in physical harms way. "Money" just became the easiest way and virtually the only way to do this to make you a "man"
Thats the problem. A man should be one who protects his family. Our society just eliminated most of which can harm our children aside from things that money can fix. Immunization, food, shelter, all cost money. Well the real men can hunt, protect, survive. Without these necessities im afraid the feminist will win because now we really are equal in a life where we arent suppose to be. We can all make money, but id love to see a woman or wall street fat cat fight to survive

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@BillRM,

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In a sane world once a man is told that he had conceived a child out of wedlock and without some upfront agreement with the woman beforehand concerning possible children he should had ex-numbers of days to tell the woman if he is willing to be a co-parent or give up all his rights to the child to be.

If he decide not to be a parent his finance responsibility should begin and end at half the cost for an abortion.

In cases where the woman is a slut and has no idea which guy the father is your solution would be fine since pre natal DNA testing is still risky. . I however think that woman have a duty to inform men that they have been made a father when that information is known, and men should have the right to be involved in decisions related to pre natal care and birthing when possible. You plan does not seem to allow men such rights as I think they should have pre birth.

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@smcmonagle,

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A man should be one who protects his family

The feminists have successfully driven a stake through that idea....you my friend are very out of date. I wish this were not so, but we live in the world we have, not the one that we would like to have or that would be better.

You might look up some threads here such as "the end of men"...women are doing better than men in education and on the job market. We are now working to get men back to equality with women in earning potential, we being a slim minority of Americans as most people have little interest in the current destitution of younger men....your idea that men would be the prime earners again is not going to happen in my lifetime.

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@BillRM,

again as a new father i strongly do believe in a majority of situations the woman, as did mine, do give the father the "out"
I was given the opportunity and i didnt take it because of my moral obligation.
Situations arise for a multitude of reasons that cause disputes in which a woman claims her right to child support.
I tell you this, if i wanted out now i could take it and make arrangements sans courts and life would go on. I feel bad for those men who just might not be able to articulate those insecurities of inabilities to finance a family. But this does not make a man. Problem is, WHAT DOES MAKE A MAN DOESNT EXIST ANYMORE

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@hawkeye10,

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your idea that men would be the prime earners again is not going to happen in my lifetime.

I agree this will never happen. What makes a man doesnt exist. and it wont exist again until this whole "thing" falls apart as it is now. Who is going to kill, fight, shed blood to survive.? Not the feminists, earning power wont mean a thing. Men will matter again at this point

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@smcmonagle,

His family as in his wife or his long term girlfriend but a sexual partner who conceived a child does no made a family and being a sperm donor does not turn a man into a father either.

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@smcmonagle,

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WHAT DOES MAKE A MAN DOESNT EXIST ANYMORE

Of course, because according to the feminists who have been driving gender policy for decades MEN SUCK!

Also, our fathers failed to step up and to guide us, failed to protect us from the abuse of the man hating bitch feminists. We alive today almost universally never had good role models to guide us.

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@hawkeye10,

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Of course, because according to the feminists who have been driving gender policy for decades MEN SUCK!

This isnt why it doesnt exist any more. It doesnt exist because or corporate society has stripped it away. No need anymore to protect, to hunt, to even work in a dirty factory 14 hrs a day. Things that made us men and things women, even feminists wouldnt dare do are all gone. Then we let them into government. And because it isnt man work the CAN do it.

The founding fathers should of put a physical aptitude test first in order to enter government. Thats where they screwed up

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