Hey, Can A Woman "Ask To Get Raped"?

Somehow I do not think that women or men are going to be happy with the brave new world that Firefly wish us to live in.

That is what we call it because those who write the law want to frame the issue to their liking, the word "assault" is used for effect

Well hell, by that definition if I am standing next to you on the subway and brush your ass with the back of my hand as the train lurches then have I have just committed sexual assault. There was non consensual contact between me and your fanny, a well known erotic zone....

you continue to touch me, without my consent, yes, you would be guilty of a crime.

Sentencing delayed for man convicted of rape Dozens pack courtroom in support of Ndyat
By Paul Turenne ,Winnipeg Sun
October 12, 2011

About 40 people packed one of Winnipeg’s largest courtrooms Wednesday in support of a man recently convicted of raping a female acquaintance, but their backing didn’t convince the judge to let him out of jail.

Hilaire Ndyat, 43, was found guilty of sex assault in August and immediately sent to prison following a trial during which he claimed his victim forced him to have anal sex with her, then stole his sperm so she could have a mixed race baby.

Justice Gerald Chartier rejected the claim, calling it “simply not believable,” and found Ndyat guilty.

His sentencing was supposed to occur Wednesday but a delay in the preparation of his pre-sentence report has pushed that to January. His lawyer asked Wednesday to have him released in the meantime but Chartier denied the request.

Dozens of supporters stood when sheriffs brought Ndyat into court Wednesday. Some wept openly while others shouted supportive messages. Ndyat nodded quietly and formed a peace sign with his fingers.

Ndyat is executive director of the Winnipeg Afro-Aboriginal Crosscultural Association and was also involved in other community activities prior to his imprisonment.

“Lots of people have reaped the fruits of his labours,” Ndyat’s lawyer Brad King told court. “Freeing him as we await the pre-sentence report would help him continue his work, which people depend on.”

Prosecutor Jocelyne Ritchot said it’s unfortunate others will pay a price if Ndyat isn’t around, but that doesn’t matter.

“He’s been found guilty of a very serious sexual offence and in our opinion he poses a risk to public safety,” she said.

T’ai Pu, a supporter of Ndyat’s who was present in court Wednesday, said he and many others believe their friend was wrongfully convicted.

“We love this guy, we respect this guy, we miss this guy, and we’re going to do anything we can to bring him back. He’s a resource for the community that’s being taken away,” he said.

Ndyat testified at his trial that a woman he’d invited to his apartment in March 2008 forced herself on him and eventually tried to force anal penetration. He said he later became concerned when he discovered his used condom was missing.

“I thought she wanted a black man’s sperm as she mentioned earlier during the conversation that she’d like to have a mixed child, (she was) using me as a sperm donor by stealing sperm from me,” he wrote in a 2008 statement to police and his employer.

The victim, meanwhile, testified that she began feeling sick after Ndyat passed her an already-opened beer, then lost consciousness and later awoke to find him in the midst of raping her.

Ndyat will be sentenced Jan. 18. Ritchot said the Crown will seek at least five years.
http://www.winnipegsun.com/2011/10/12/sentencing-delayed-for-man-convicted-of-rape

Where is the word continue come into play?

About 40 people packed one of Winnipeg’s largest courtrooms Wednesday in support of a man recently convicted of raping a female acquaintance, but their backing didn’t convince the judge to let him out of jail.

The victim, meanwhile, testified that she began feeling sick after Ndyat passed her an already-opened beer, then lost consciousness and later awoke to find him in the midst of raping her.

we are going to see a lot more of this at least in America once people figure out what is being done, but I dont have a lot of faith in the Canadian willingness to stand up for freedom, but maybe they will surprise me.

Sperm stealing alleged in rape case
By PAUL TURENNE, QMI Agency
April 29, 2011

WINNIPEG - A Winnipeg man on trial for rape claims he was forced to have anal sex with his alleged victim against his will, accusing her of stealing his sperm so she could have a mixed-race baby.

When asked by the Crown whether he thought pregnancy could result from anal sex, the man replied: "I'm not in the medical profession."

The trial of Hilaire Ndyat, 42, wrapped up in Winnipeg Friday, with Justice Gerald Chartier reserving judgment on whether he will find the man guilty of one count of sex assault. His decision is expected next month.

Ndyat, a native of the Democratic Republic of Congo who moved to Winnipeg in 1996, is executive director of the Winnipeg Afro-Aboriginal Crosscultural Association and is also involved with numerous inner-city and cultural organizations and committees.

Ndyat is accused of raping a female acquaintance inside his West Broadway apartment in March 2008, with the Crown suggesting he may have drugged the woman's beer before raping her.

However, while testifying in French at his trial Tuesday, Ndyat claimed it was the woman who forced herself on him and that he didn't resist because women are revered in his culture and he didn't know how to react to her advances.


Ndyat testified that he only resisted when the woman removed his condom and tried to force anal penetration.

"I found that disgusting. I pushed her away and ran to the bathroom to wash up," he said. "In my culture, anal sex is taboo."

Ndyat said he became concerned when he later discovered his used condom was missing and remembered the woman had told him of her fondness for mixed-race children.

"I thought she wanted a black man's sperm as she mentioned earlier during the conversation that she'd like to have a mixed child, (she was) using me as a sperm donor by stealing sperm from me," he wrote in a 2008 statement to police and his employer.

When asked on the stand whether he knew that anal sex doesn't lead to pregnancy, Ndyat said he is not a doctor.

"His version of the events insults our intelligence and defies common sense," prosecutor Lisa Cupples told court during Friday's closing arguments. "His testimony makes no sense."

Ndyat's counsel argued the woman's story is not credible and suggested Ndyat be acquitted.
http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Crime/2011/04/29/18084976.html

Stand up for whose freedom?

The man is a convicted rapist

the supporters just wanted him out on bail until his sentencing

The prosecutor and the judge were correct--he is a danger to the community,

he has been found guilty of a serious sexual assault

He belongs in jail until he is sentenced.

Wake me when you DONT think a guy should be in jail after the girl he was with says she was not satisfied

If you take my car without my consent, you have committed a crime.

Automobile & Motor Vehicle Theft

Theft by Means of Conveyance and Knowingly Riding in an Automobile that is Being Operated without the Owner's Consent

Joyriding or Unauthorized Use of an Automobile in NJ

The relevant New Jersey Law is contained at N.J.S.A. 2C:20-10(a), 2C:20-10(b), 2C:20-10(c) and 2C:20-10(d) and provides:

a. A person commits a disorderly persons offense if, with purpose to withhold temporarily from the owner, he takes, operates, or exercises control over any means of conveyance, other than a motor vehicle, without consent of the owner or other person authorized to give consent. "Means of conveyance" includes but is not limited to motor vehicles, bicycles, motorized bicycles, boats, horses, vessels, surfboards, rafts, skimobiles, airplanes, trains, trams and trailers. It is an affirmative defense to prosecution under subsections a., b. and c. of this section that the actor reasonably believed that the owner or any other person authorized to give consent would have consented to the operation had he known of it.

b. A person commits a crime of the fourth degree if, with purpose to withhold temporarily from the owner, he takes, operates or exercises control over a motor vehicle without the consent of the owner or other person authorized to give consent.

c. A person commits a crime of the third degree if, with purpose to withhold temporarily from the owner, he takes, operates or exercises control over a motor vehicle without the consent of the owner or other person authorized to give consent and operates the motor vehicle in a manner that creates a risk of injury to any person or a risk of damage to property.

d. A person commits a crime of the fourth degree if he enters and rides in a motor vehicle knowing that the motor vehicle has been taken or is being operated without the consent of the owner or other person authorized to consent.

A defendant is charged with a violation of N.J.S.A. 2C:20-10 under several circumstances. First, an individual will be charged with a Fourth Degree Offense if he did not intend to permanently deprive the owner of the motor vehicle, but rather temporarily used it without the owner's consent. The nature of the taking (temporary) is what distinguishes this crime from auto theft. If the defendant is found to have driven the vehicle in a reckless manner during the temporary heist or joyride, then an indictment for the Third Degree Offense may follow. It is important to note that penalties can be imposed upon those who simply ride in the vehicle if they are aware that it is being operated without the owner's consent. Accordingly, it is not always the takers of the car that get charged with an offense under this theft statute. .

Theft by Unlawful Taking of an Automobile
Where an automobile is taken with the intention of permanently depriving the owner of the vehicle then that charge of theft by unlawful taking, i.e., auto theft shall be filed. The charge of auto theft falls under N.J.S.A. 2C:20-3, New Jersey's Theft by Unlawful Taking Law.
http://www.newjerseycriminallawattorney.com/CM/PropertyCrimes/Autotheftandcarjacking.asp

Oct. 13, 2011
Loophole robs rape victim of justice
By CHRISTINE VENDEL
The Kansas City Star

Earlier this month, a Jackson County judge sentenced Bernard Jackson, known as the Waldo rapist, to 18 consecutive life sentences for attacking four women nearly 30 years ago.

The victims testified against Jackson, and one of them spoke at his sentencing.

Irene — a woman raped in an unrelated attack in 1997 in Kansas City — wants to tell a courtroom about her experience and how it changed her life forever. She wants to help convict her attacker.

But she probably won’t get the chance.

A legal loophole prevents prosecutors from filing a rape charge against the professional cage fighter and convicted rapist recently linked to her attack through DNA. His DNA was linked to two other cases in other states. One victim had died, but Colorado authorities filed charges in their case last month. For Irene, who wanted only her middle name used for this column, the loophole was just one more blow in a series of disappointments.

Irene was 54 and a high school guidance counselor when a borrowed truck she was driving overheated on Troost Avenue one night. She didn’t want to ruin her friend’s truck by continuing to drive while smoke poured from under the hood.

So she grabbed her purse and started walking, looking for a phone. She didn’t get far when a man pulled up and offered a ride. She declined.

The well-dressed man offered again, as he drove alongside her. He told her she “shouldn’t be walking on Troost at night.”

Irene finally agreed and insisted: “Just take me to the nearest phone.” They drove one block when Irene heard the man’s cell phone ring from his pocket.

“I looked at him, like ‘Oh my God!’ ” she said. She knew she was in trouble. “I immediately started grabbing the door handle and he whipped the car into a lawn place parking lot.”

He parked close to a fence, hoping she couldn’t escape. But she kicked the door open, damaging it, and ran. She screamed for help as she ran along a sidewalk. Several vehicles drove by. No one stopped.

The man tackled her, dragged her into a yard and raped her while threatening to kill her. Afterward, he picked up a brick and told her to “run the other way or I’ll smash your (expletive) face in!” She ran into the street, right in front of a car. The driver took her to a police station.

Irene got the feeling that police officers thought she deserved what happened. She wishes she could see those same officers now.

Irene attended weekly therapy for years, but said “you just never get over it.”

Her view of law enforcement, however, has improved.

She met recently with Jackson County prosecutors who are trying to find a way to charge the suspect with something. Meanwhile, the cold case detective has treated her with respect and kept her informed.

“I told him, I wish the police would have cared half as much then as you do now.”
http://www.kansascity.com/2011/10/13/3206232/loophole-robs-rape-victim-of-justice.html

Sep. 30, 2011
Jackson gets 18 life sentences for Waldo rapes
By TONY RIZZO and MARK MORRIS
The Kansas City Star

A Jackson County judge sentenced Bernard Jackson to 18 consecutive life sentences today for rapes he committed in the Waldo and Armour Hills neighborhoods almost 30 years ago.

A jury convicted Jackson, 53, in July of seven counts of rape, seven counts of sodomy and four counts of robbery in one of the city’s biggest cold-hit rape cases of the last decade.

Because of Jackson’s history as a prior and persistent sex offender, he faced minimum 30-year sentences for each of the sex-related convictions.

Jackson robbed and sexually assaulted four women who lived alone in 1983 and 1984. Each of the women testified at trial how an intruder surprised them in their homes, either late at night or early in the morning, demanded money and then raped them.

In addition to victim testimony, a crushing load of DNA evidence factored in the prosecution’s case. An analyst testified that she found six complete DNA profiles that matched Jackson to a certainty in that only one in 143 quadrillion unrelated people would have that genetic sequence.

Jackson already has spent more than 30 years behind bars, all on sexual assault charges. He also was a suspect in a string of rapes in Sacramento, Calif., in 1983 and 1984.

No trial date has yet been set for Jackson’s unresolved criminal case, in which prosecutors accused him of two more recent sexual assaults in the Waldo area.

Jackson is suspected of five attacks that occurred about 20 months ago and terrorized women who lived alone in that Kansas City neighborhood. Prosecutors have said, however, that they only had enough evidence to charge him in two of the crimes.
http://www.kansascity.com/2011/09/30/3176732/jackson-get-18-life-sentences.html

It's a shame you don't want statistics on serious sexual assaults of men included in the federal crime numbers for rape.
You apparently consider sexual assaults of men as being rather insignificant.