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Hey, Can A Woman "Ask To Get Raped"?

 
 
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Wed 5 Oct, 2011 01:36 pm
@BillRM,
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Or when a man fail to meet some strange standards of needing to act as a guardian to another adult human being because of the type of sex organs the other person had.


Not quite.....as we see clearly with the state's claim that they have the right to void a woman's consent to sex if she has been drinking or if the man has been too insistent for their tastes state has made itself the guardian of the woman's virtue. The core principles of a free society have been completely rubbed out, we could be just was well looking at the law passed down from the ayatollah's of Iran, or Dear Leader Kim. In Muslim law they stone the woman of ill virtue, we in the America stone the man instead....the target has changed but the barbarity remains the same.
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firefly
 
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Reply Wed 5 Oct, 2011 08:08 pm
It's time this thread got back to the reality of the crime of rape....the rapes that actually occur and are the reason we need sexual assault laws.

This 16 year old was raped in her school this week.
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Tampa police: Teen rapes fellow student inside Chamberlain High School
By Jessica Vander Velde, Times Staff Writer
October 5, 2011

TAMPA — It was early in the school day, and the 16-year-old student had just gone to grab something from her locker.

But on her way back to class, another student followed her. As they passed a boy's restroom, police say, he pushed her inside and raped her.

Then he returned to class. The girl, shaken and crying, found Chamberlain High School's police resource officer.

Authorities did a medical exam and interviewed the young woman and her suspected attacker, an acquaintance, after Monday's incident. That evening, police arrested Joshua Bynum, 16, on charges of sexual battery and kidnapping. Police say his statements were inconsistent and were refuted by a medical test.

He will not be returning to the North Tampa school, principal Thomas Morrill told students over the intercom Tuesday.

Several students say they're still scared.

"Especially as a woman," said Erin Helmick, 16.

A group of teens walking home from school Tuesday said they've never felt completely safe at Chamberlain, but their fears were previously aimed at outsiders. Bynum was supposed to be there.

"We need more cops," said Yessenia Vazquez, 17.

"And cameras," said her friend Mariah Hernandez, 17.

And maybe a buddy system, suggested Lynn Johnson, the mother of a freshman.

She received a recorded phone message sent to Chamberlain parents Tuesday. In it, principal Morrill says a student has been arrested on a sexual battery charge. He assures parents their children's safety is a priority.

"I was shocked," Johnson said. "I felt so bad for the girl."

The incident happened in a boy's restroom near the gym, which is at the end of a hallway and next to the stadium. Police say they're interviewing potential witnesses and ask anyone who may have seen anything to contact the school's resource officer.

After Monday's incident, Chamberlain officials plan to limit hall passes to emergencies. Other measures might come later, after school authorities meet with Tampa police, said district spokeswoman Linda Cobbe.

Chamberlain, like most schools in Hillsborough County, does not have surveillance cameras. There's a school resource officer, but no one is assigned to monitor halls between class, Cobbe said.

"It's a matter of resources," she said. "Teachers need to be in class during class time."

The problem with a buddy system, Cobbe said, is that students should be inside classrooms, learning. Officials want to limit the number of teens walking the halls during class.

Hillsborough County School Board member Candy Olson said it's difficult to ensure all students are safe all of the time.

"Always, when something like this happens, as board members we ask ourselves, 'What could have been done better?' " she said. "And we always know there is no easy answer."

Bynum was taken to the Juvenile Assessment Center on Monday. His father, Freddie Mitchell, said his son told detectives the sex was consensual.

Police say evidence and interviews show otherwise.

The girl's version of events remained consistent and was corroborated by the medical exam, said Tampa police spokeswoman Laura McElroy.

Bynum, on the other hand, first told detectives he had no contact with the girl. He changed his story later, McElroy said, telling police the pair had consensual oral sex.

However, the medical test indicated there was intercourse, police said.

http://www.tampabay.com/news/publicsafety/crime/tampa-police-teen-rapes-fellow-student-inside-chamberlain-high-school/1195145

It is both sad and shocking that a female student cannot attend high school without the fear of being raped.


hawkeye10
 
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Reply Wed 5 Oct, 2011 08:39 pm
@firefly,
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Bynum was taken to the Juvenile Assessment Center on Monday. His father, Freddie Mitchell, said his son told detectives the sex was consensual.

Police say evidence and interviews show otherwise.
If this case runs true to form the alleged evidence is nothing more than proof that they actually had sex, and interviews dont show that anyone saw or heard anything that indicated violence only that other people have chosen to believe the alleged victim because she acted like she was violated.

Thing is that females in our society learn early when and how to cry to get what they want, and given how often it works they tend to keep doing it. My wife as a First Sergeant on a regular basis needs to deal with women 18-25 who have fucked up in some way...When confronted with the misdeed and with the fact that the chain of command has no intention of ignoring the situation the first response tends to be to deny that anything happened. When that does not work the back up plan, just as sure as rain, is to cry and claim to be a victim. Sadly this often works on the male First Sergeants....my wife on the other hand tells them that she is not impressed with crying because almost all of the females who get into trouble cry for her, only the truth impresses, and she encourages the women to move on that so that the situation can be resolved. She tells the women that if they are honest with her she will do what she can do to help them out...9 out of 10 times at that point the tears stop and the truth comes out, and the truth is that they know that they fucked up but they thought they had a shot of getting out of trouble by using their female maneuvers.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Wed 5 Oct, 2011 09:23 pm
@hawkeye10,
Also needing mention...as my wife tells it her saying "I am not impressed with your crying" as they are crying tends to go over like a slap in the face...the change in facial expression is dramatic and is instant.
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Lustig Andrei
 
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Reply Wed 5 Oct, 2011 09:25 pm
Good grief!!! Are you people still at it, a year later??? This thread should have died a merciful death ages ago.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Wed 5 Oct, 2011 09:30 pm
@Lustig Andrei,
Lustig Andrei wrote:

Good grief!!! Are you people still at it, a year later??? This thread should have died a merciful death ages ago.
Not for lack of important matters to discuss. A2k Is a rare place where the America's sexual regulation program can be debated and discovered, almost anywhere else Political Correctness Laws work to make sure that the conversation gets shut down. This lack of transparency and truth telling in the collective spaces is 100% of the reason why America now finds itself up **** Creek.
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firefly
 
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Reply Wed 5 Oct, 2011 10:38 pm
@hawkeye10,
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If this case runs true to form the alleged evidence is nothing more than proof that they actually had sex, and interviews dont show that anyone saw or heard anything that indicated violence only that other people have chosen to believe the alleged victim because she acted like she was violated.

No, in this case the police also believed the victim because the male lied when questioned by the police. He also denied having intercourse with her--the girl's medical exam indicated otherwise (there was medical evidence consistent with a forcible rape). That's why they arrested him the same day.

And yes, the victim did act like she was violated--and she immediately sought out a school security officer to report the rape.

The male involved also has a history of physical assault while in school
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In February 2010, Bynum was arrested for simple battery on a school resource officer at Sligh Middle School, records show. Two months later, he was arrested again for failing to appear in court on those charges.

Denying that rapes occur, Hawkeye, as you routinely do, does not alter the reality of these crimes.




Intrepid
 
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Reply Wed 5 Oct, 2011 10:51 pm
@hawkeye10,
hawkeye10 wrote:

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Only those who are weak and not attractive to women feel the need to rape.
I have no doubt but that you likewise feel that the only women who want to be ravished or taken in hand by their man are the mentally ill ones. You must be a very boring ****.


The intelligence of your posts never cease to amaze me. Rolling Eyes
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Intrepid
 
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Reply Wed 5 Oct, 2011 10:58 pm
@hawkeye10,
hawkeye10 wrote:

firefly wrote:

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You know the old standards that had serve mankind well for hundreds of years.

Those "old standards" did serve mankind well--they allowed men to rape women with impunity.


Of course they did, because men suck......according to you.


I think you will find, if you open your mind for an instant, that Firefly does not think that "men suck". Only those who think that rape is ok and that rapists should not be held accountable for their despicable and cowardly actions.
firefly
 
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Reply Thu 6 Oct, 2011 12:10 am
@Intrepid,
The "old standard" Hawkeye wants to go back to is to eliminate any notions of "consent" and instead require that the victim make an effort to physically beat off her attacker, in order to prove she was raped
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The theory of consent does not work for sex law, the entire idea needs to be thrown out, and we need to go back to sexual violation being an act of force above physically demonstrated objection...that if the woman is not trying to beat the guy off of her then it is not rape. Getting beat by you woman is a clear line between go/no go , and a clear line is reguired out of consideration for justice.

Hawkeye's "consideration of justice" does not seem to include any "consideration of justice" for the person who has been raped. Physically fighting with the attacker can get the rape victim herself very badly beaten, or killed, and it is something not all rape victims are even capable of doing.

This recent rape victim, a woman of 83, would not be capable of physically fighting-off the 34 year old man who sexually assaulted her without risking severe harm to herself, and possibly even death.
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Prosecutors: Elderly woman gave food to homeless man before rape
BY CASEY TONER Sun-Times Media
September 26, 2011

By many accounts, the cluster of houses and apartments in a leafy area behind The Home Depot in Orland Park is a safe and family-friendly place.

It’s a quiet community where people feel free to walk their dogs and let their children play outside without fear.

Thus it came as a shock to many residents that a homeless man pushed down and allegedly sexually assaulted an 83-year-old woman Friday morning in a nearby field.

Dennis D. Dodson Jr., 34, who was arrested later Friday and charged with one count of aggravated criminal sexual assault, a Class X felony, was ordered held on $1.5 million bond Monday, prosecutors said. A preliminary hearing was set for Oct. 14.

The victim previously had given the man food and money in an attempt to help him out, according to court records. Prosecutors said the man lived in the nearby wooded area.

The alleged incident has left residents wary.

“All the time now, you step out of the door and you start looking behind you,” said Zena Lux, who lives in a nearby condominium complex.

Prosecutors said the victim met Dodson last Thursday, a day before the attack. Walking home from a nearby bank, she cut behind The Home Depot, 7300 W. 159th St., as a shortcut, according to court records. She gave Dodson $5 and food and went home and sought help to find him a place to stay.

She returned later and brought him $10 and some crackers. That evening, she reached out to both her church and the Salvation Army to find him a place to stay. Both told her to call police and request that they do a well-being check on the man, court records said.

The woman returned on Friday to tell Dodson police would come to check on him. She noticed Dodson lying on the ground with beer cans around him, court records said. He became agitated that she called police and grabbed her by the shoulders. He then began kissing her and tried to force his tongue into her mouth, court records said.

He threw her to the ground and sexually assaulted her. He put his hand over her mouth during the assault as she screamed, then rode away on a bicycle, prosecutors said.

The woman crawled through a fence to her home and called police. She suffered internal injuries in addition to bruises and scrapes on her back, and was taken to South Suburban Hospital in Hazel Crest for treatment, police said.

Dodson was located by police at 9:45 p.m. Friday at 170th Street and Harlem Avenue, less than two miles away from the site of the attack, police said.
http://www.suntimes.com/7888869-418/prosecutors-elderly-woman-gave-food-to-homeless-man-before-rape.html

This was an acquaintance rape--since the woman had interacted with the man several times before he sexually assaulted her. Hawkeye would not likely view her as a legitimate rape victim since she didn't physically fight her attacker and there were no witnesses who heard or saw anything--this is the sort of "he said/she said" case he'd probably view as "consensual rough sex". Rolling Eyes

This thread could go on for another 400 pages and Hawkeye still couldn't connect to the reality of sexual assaults, or to the need for the sexual assault laws. He's too caught up in his own sexual issues, and his power problems with women, and his own sense of inadequacy, to even be able to address the topic with anything approaching objectivity. But, he's narcissistic enough, and arrogant enough, and filled with enough hot air, to keep right on posting his perverse, and contemptuous, and downright paranoid, views of women for the next several hundred pages, while, at the same time, ironically whining that anyone who supports the sexual assault laws is saying that "men suck". Ya gotta admire his capacity for denial and self-delusion. Laughing
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Thu 6 Oct, 2011 12:40 am
@firefly,
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No, in this case the police also believed the victim because the male lied when questioned by the police. He also denied having intercourse with her--the girl's medical exam indicated otherwise (there was medical evidence consistent with a forcible rape). That's why they arrested him the same day.
I see, so the American "Justice" system takes lying about a legal activity as proof that a crime has been committed.......the logic must be too complicated for my simple brain, would you mind walking me through it please?

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Denying that rapes occur, Hawkeye, as you routinely do, does not alter the reality of these crimes.
I do no such thing, I say that real rapes are more rare than advertised and a lot of what is claimed to be rape should not even be in the criminal justice system, I do not deny that rapes accur. You get an F for comprehension today.
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Thu 6 Oct, 2011 01:02 am
@firefly,
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By many accounts, the cluster of houses and apartments in a leafy area behind The Home Depot in Orland Park is a safe and family-friendly place.

It’s a quiet community where people feel free to walk their dogs and let their children play outside without fear.

Thus it came as a shock to many residents that a homeless man pushed down and allegedly sexually assaulted an 83-year-old woman Friday morning in a nearby field.

Dennis D. Dodson Jr., 34, who was arrested later Friday and charged with one count of aggravated criminal sexual assault, a Class X felony, was ordered held on $1.5 million bond Monday, prosecutors said. A preliminary hearing was set for Oct. 14.
SO a homeless man, very likely mentally ill or suffering from substance abuse problems, grabs at a womans sexual bits and he gets $1.5 Million in bail and is looking at 6-30 years in jail??!! You Firefly intend to defend the American "Justice" system with this bit of the state using a Bazooka to hit a fly??!! By way of reference second degree murder gets 4-20 years...I have no idea why anyone would do a sexual assault and let the victim live given the penalties as outlined in the Illinois criminal statues, which appear to have been written by someone who was zonked out on LSD. Kill the witness so if you get caught you only need to do the murder time instead of the stiffer sexual assault time, and with no witness you are less likely to get caught to boot. It is a no brainer!

You might lay off the vino at night Firefly, as you are making a fool out of yourself.
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BillRM
 
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Reply Thu 6 Oct, 2011 01:14 am
@firefly,
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It is both sad and shocking that a female student cannot attend high school without the fear of being raped
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It is also sad and even more shocking when a young boy in my area could not used the bathroom in a middle school without being knife to death by a fellow student.

So like the rest of society schools are not and very likely will never will be be crime free so what is your point Firefly?

Oh in case of the murder there was also no question that a crime had happen.

Let me re-phase that comment one way or the other a crime had been committed either a false charge of rape or a rape had occur.

Anyone would care to flip a coin?


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BillRM
 
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Reply Thu 6 Oct, 2011 02:18 am
@firefly,
Take note no charges are likely to be file as crying rape falsely is just a case of girls being girls it would seems.


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Monday, November 15, 2010
Police discover high school rape report was false
SHREVEPORT, LA (KSLA) – Police have determined the reported attack and rape in a local high school bathroom never really happened.

Just after 10 a.m. Tuesday morning a 16-year-old student at Huntington High School reported 2 men had attacked and raped her in the school bathroom. The school immediately called the police and took the girl to the hospital.

"We absolutely take every report like this seriously," said Tricia Grayson with Caddo Parish Schools.

As news of the reported rape spread, many parents worried about their children's safety.

"Being a parent, who wouldn't be concerned?" said Starkes.

Starkes said she has always felt the school did a good job of securing the campus, so many things about the story didn't make sense to her.

"How could somebody enter onto the campus and nobody see them?" she asked.

Wednesday, police determined no one did enter the campus without permission.

"As they were interviewing the victim this morning, she finally admitted to them that she had fabricated the entire tale. That she had not been attacked," said Bill Goodin with the Shreveport Police Department.

Caddo School Board wants to assure parents the Huntington campus is safe.

"There are only a couple of ways to get onto that campus from the outside, and those access points are monitored," said Grayson.

The school also has several security officers and security cameras on campus.

At this time, police have not filed any criminal charges against the 16-year-old girl, and they don't expect to.




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BillRM
 
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Reply Thu 6 Oct, 2011 02:23 am
@firefly,
What to bet that she will not be charge with anything at all?


Florida Teen Files a False Rape Charge
November 4, 2008
Posted In: Sexual Battery

By Jacksonville Criminal Defense Lawyer Cynthia M. Veintemillas on November 4, 2008 12:17 PM | Permalink
A 15-year-old girl in Palatka, Florida may have lied about being raped in a public school's bathroom. The girl alleged that an unknown male forced her into the bathroom during school hours and raped her at knife point. After the alleged rape, she returned to class. She did not report the rape until after she returned home and spoke with her mother, which occurred hours later. There may be evidence that she concocted this story in ordered to cover up a sexual encounter that that she had off-campus. This case is still under investigation.

If this Palatka, Florida high school student did lie about being raped, she may face serious charges. Under Florida Statute 837.05, a person that "gives false information to any law enforcement officer concerning the alleged commission of any crime, commits a misdemeanor of the first degree." A first-degree misdemeanor is punishable by up to one year in the county jail. However, that is not the end of it. In Florida, if a person gives false information about a crime and that crime is a capital felony, she has committed a third degree felony, punishable by to up to five years in Florida State Prison.

A false report that alleges this type of sexual battery, a capital felony, could result confinement to a juvenile facility and being adjudicated a juvenile delinquent. Although a 15-year old is a juvenile, her juvenile record will follow her for the rest of her life. It could effect her ability to get into college, obtain government sponsored student loans, obtain a professional license, and may result in deportation if the offender is not a United States citizen
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BillRM
 
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Reply Thu 6 Oct, 2011 02:28 am
@firefly,
http://www.s0lidgr0und.org/showthread.php?13486-Teenage-girl-cries-rape-when-caught-having-sex-in-school-bathroom

Teenage girl cries rape when caught having sex in school bathroom
A 15-year-old Jefferson High School student who said someone raped her in a school bathroom during the lunch hour Tuesday signed a statement Wednesday admitting she made it up.

Therefore, the Tampa Police Department has decided not to press charges against her 16-year-old classmate. The state attorney's office will decide about whether to press charges against the girl for lying.

On Tuesday, police said a maintenance worker walked into an auditorium boy's room that's not normally open to students during school. He saw two pairs of feet under one of the stalls and then headed to the principal's office to alert school officials. A school official then headed to the bathroom, where he was pushed out of the way by the 16-year-old, who ran off campus to a hotel across the street.

The school resource officer pursued the teen to the parking garage of a hotel next door, the Sheraton, where police officers had set up a perimeter. They took him into custody without incident.

The two teens are acquaintances.

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BillRM
 
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Reply Thu 6 Oct, 2011 02:48 am
@firefly,
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!Scary Story–Girl Tries to Frame Boy on Rape Charge, Has FOUR Friends Corroborate False TalePosted on April 10th, 2008 by Glenn Sacks in All NewsRead 4,921 times.“Review of statements and video surveillance vindicated students accused of assaulting a 13-year-old student at Athens Middle School, said Athens Independent School District Superintendent Dr. Fred Hayes. The female student will be charged by Athens District Police for making a false report, he said.

“‘It’s disappointing that we have an issue like this going on,’ he said. ‘It’s certainly disappointing when a student lies, anytime.’

“The incident began as part of a history class assignment on Friday. She and the other students were asked to create ‘protest signs’ dealing with current and past topics. ‘If you love your nation, stop illegal immigration,’ her sign read. She claimed a group of 21 students, many of them Hispanic, assaulted her by pushing her into a brick wall and scraping her face down the wall, and that males in the group attempted to drag her into the bathroom while telling her they would rape and kill her.

“Hayes said, while he is disappointed that she will be charged for filing a false report, he is relieved that an assault like the one she described did not occur on campus. He said questions about the validity of her claim were raised earlier in the investigation because of conflicting stories, but that video from inside the school provided the most important evidence in the case…. “He said the female student can be seen in the hallway walking down the hallway with a sign from her history class in her hands as if she was displaying it. Hayes said a male student approached her from behind and took the sign away from her and ran, ducking into the gymnasium and away from her. Moments later, she walked by several teachers and never indicated to them that she was under duress, the video showed.”Hayes said she then approached Assistant Principal Mark Castleberry and told him someone had taken her assignment away from her. He told her to go to class and that the matter would be investigated later, Hayes said. Videotape then shows the female student scratching her arm and neck area, wounds she would later claim were inflicted by a group of attackers.”

Readers send me stories of false rape claims every day–false claims are common–but this one was particularly disturbing. Many rape cases are “he said/she said” issues, so when the woman has witnesses or outside corroboration for her claims, her claims are understandably given much more legitimacy.

In this case, a false accuser had four separate friends corroborate her lie. The accused were saved only by the fact that there was a videotape of the (non) incident. The tape even showed the false accuser inflicting on herself the injuries she claimed male assailants caused.I also can’t help but notice the racial component here. In an era when Latino immigrants are often blamed and scapegoated, the girl claimed that when she held up a sign saying “If you love your nation, stop illegal immigration,” a group of Latino students assaulted her and “attempted to drag her into the bathroom while telling her they would rape and kill her.” I guess she thought they would be an easy target, since they had the double disadvantage of being male and Latino.I also love the school Superintendent’s comment that “he is disappointed that
firefly
 
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Reply Thu 6 Oct, 2011 03:20 am
BillRM and Hawkeye demonstrate rape denial and rape myths and rape apology to such an extreme degree, the best thing is just to let them go on talking--to each other. They illustrate the problem of the "rape culture" beautifully.

BillRM thinks talking about actual cases of rape is unimportant--he only wants to focus on "false accusations", the rapes that never happened. Rolling Eyes And, although those false allegations comprise only about 4- 8% of reported rapes (about the same percentage of false accusations as occurs for every other type of crime) he continues to insist that almost half of all reported rapes are false allegations. BillRM's message is clear--women lie, rape is rare, prisons are filled with innocent men who are wrongly convicted of rape on the word of a malicious woman. And of course, any woman who gets very drunk is "asking to be raped", and no man should ever be held responsible for raping a woman who is severely intoxicated, or even a woman who is sober, because, according to BillRM's logic, women are not victims of rape, men are the victims of rape laws and women's lies.

And Hawkeye, believes he has the "right" to disregard pesky details like "consent"--whether the woman wants to have sexual contact with him--because the need for sexual "conquest" is hard-wired into his DNA, the woman really wants to be "ravished", and he should have the "sexual freedom" to use her for his gratification until she expresses her displeasure by beating him up to prove he's acted against her will. Hawkeye regards women sexually as little more than pieces of meat, and he talks about getting the "good stuff" the way one asks a butcher for a prime cut, and, while he often calls women "bitches", he refers to their vagina as "the prize". He judges other men to be "pussy-whipped" if they dare view females as actual human beings, with whom communication is possible, and he has no hesitation about casting aspersions on the "masculinity" of any male who dares support sexual assault laws. Hawkeye firmly believes that sexual assault laws are part of a plot to symbolically castrate him--to deny him what he wants, and his preferred way of getting it. So he calls them "anti-sex" laws or "sex regulation" laws--simply because these laws assert he must have the other person's consent for what he wants to do with their body. Hawkeye wants no such impediments to his quest for gratification--consent be damned.
But, not content with just expressing contempt for women, or just holding misogynistic attitudes, Hawkeye has now, rather shockingly, told us that he thinks the rapist of an 83 year old woman should have killed her, because he'd possibly get less prison time for murder than rape, and she wouldn't be alive to testify against him for a rape charge. Women...bitches...really are pieces of meat to him..not humans..just kill them, if that's what's in your self interest.

To say that these two hold dangerous attitudes is an understatement. They, and people who think the way they do, are the reason we need the sexual assault laws. People like these two help to promote a rape culture that makes sexual assaults more likely to occur.

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Recognize rape culture, help prevent the silence
By Anna Eskamani
Guest Columnist
October 5, 2011

Sexual assault is a crime that takes shape in many forms. It includes attacks such as rape or attempted rape, sodomy, child molestation, incest or fondling. Assailants can be strangers, acquaintances, friends or family members, and they commit these crimes by way of violence, threats, coercion, manipulation, pressure or tricks. Whatever the circumstances, whoever the assailant, no one asks or deserves to be sexually assaulted — and that is the bottom line.

Here on a college campus, it is estimated by the U.S. Department of Justice that one out of five college women will be sexually assaulted at some point within her academic years. And when a woman is sexually assaulted on a college campus, her most common reaction is to keep quiet.

With Domestic Violence Awareness Month before us, it is time for us to speak out and be heard. We live in a world where rape is often viewed as the victim's fault or as a crime that can't really exist.

It's called rape culture, and it is defined as "a complex of beliefs that encourages male sexual aggression and supports violence against women." Rape culture is rooted in our patriarchal society and lies within the concept that women are the possession of men. Possession alludes to objectification of women, which is another component of rape culture.

There are those who deny the existence of a rape culture and will instead argue that situations of "campus rape cases exist in the gray area of seeming cooperation and tacit consent." Ergo, rape culture is just a myth, and most cases of rape would not actually be considered rape because they are, in fact, consensual.

In contrast, I would argue that rape culture is everywhere. We see it among our favorite films and video games. Take for instance movies like Observe and Report, which makes a joke of the raping of a drunk, vomiting woman. In video games like Grand Theft Auto, your character can sexually assault prostitutes and passersby. Rape culture is even expressed through everyday conversations with the all-too-common phrase of "I totally raped that quiz."

With examples like these, I find it incredibly frustrating that there are those who still refuse to acknowledge the existence of rape culture. Take into consideration a passerby at UCF's SlutWalk. SlutWalk is a global movement started by a Canadian officer who advised young women that they should not dress like "sluts" if they did not want to get raped. His words were rooted in rape culture, and his notion of blaming the victim launched an international campaign to end slut-shaming. The unnamed passerby at SlutWalk heckled the crowd as he walked by and asserted that "rape has nothing to do with sluts."

He's right. Rape shouldn't have anything to do with so-called sluts. Rape is not initiated by short skirts, cleavage, flirty behavior or quick eye contact. Rape is not caused by late night party-goers or even late night joggers. Rape is not a woman's fault. But our rape culture disagrees; and until we accept the fact that rape culture is real, until we accept the notion that women are frequently objectified and thus treated like objects, we are never going to break the cycle of blaming the victim, or in this case, blaming the slut.

My hope for this month and for months to come is that we re-evaluate our perceptions of rape and begin to demand more from our society. Women should not be scared of getting raped if our skirts are too short, if our drinks are too heavy or if the night is too dark. We are human and deserve to be treated as such. If you're ignoring the rape culture, you are only adding more silence to an issue that deserves more noise
http://www.centralfloridafuture.com/opinion/recognize-rape-culture-help-prevent-the-silence-1.2646638


hawkeye10
 
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Reply Thu 6 Oct, 2011 03:25 am
@BillRM,
Re FireFly's case: I would need to have some information before I began to fit the guy with a sexual assault charge. For instance where was her class that she was coming from and going back to in relationship with her locker and the gym where the sex took place? unless she was in one of the portable's near the gym I can see no reason for her to be in the gym. She had gotten a hall pass with the lame reason that she had to go to her locker, which when I was in school meant " I have something else more important to do than sitting in your class" .....maybe that more important thing was to go get fucked, but something went wrong, like he was not nice enough?? She says that he met her at her locker, was that the plan all along?

IDK, but from the information we have there is little to suggest that a rape took place. Hopefully the cops have something on this kid, but dont bet on it if you like to keep your money.

BTW- last year this boy got into a fight and as the cop tried to break it up the boy said something to the cop that he did not like...He got arrested for that, though the charges were latter dropped. I also notice that the student handbook is 78 pages long....this district is one of those zero tolerance horror stories, which mostly likely is not relevant but it could be if this girl was pissed off at this boy and decided to **** him over by ******* him and then crying rape....the story as we know it should fishy along these lines.
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Reply Thu 6 Oct, 2011 03:38 am
@firefly,
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BillRM and Hawkeye demonstrate rape denial and rape myths and rape apology to such an extreme degree, the best thing is just to let them go on talking--to each other. They illustrate the problem of the "rape culture" beautifully.


Strange is it not that those "myths" of false rape charges are reported times after times in news stories and studies but they are myths because they do not fit into Firefly world view of all women being truthful and all men are either rapists or would be rapists.

Now if it would turn out, as there is at least a 50/50 chance of it doing, that this rape was no such thing Firefly will fall back on the theory that the boy deserve being charge with rape for having sex at school in the first place in any case.
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