Hey, Can A Woman "Ask To Get Raped"?

Or when a man fail to meet some strange standards of needing to act as a guardian to another adult human being because of the type of sex organs the other person had.

Tampa police: Teen rapes fellow student inside Chamberlain High School
By Jessica Vander Velde, Times Staff Writer
October 5, 2011

TAMPA — It was early in the school day, and the 16-year-old student had just gone to grab something from her locker.

But on her way back to class, another student followed her. As they passed a boy's restroom, police say, he pushed her inside and raped her.

Then he returned to class. The girl, shaken and crying, found Chamberlain High School's police resource officer.

Authorities did a medical exam and interviewed the young woman and her suspected attacker, an acquaintance, after Monday's incident. That evening, police arrested Joshua Bynum, 16, on charges of sexual battery and kidnapping. Police say his statements were inconsistent and were refuted by a medical test.

He will not be returning to the North Tampa school, principal Thomas Morrill told students over the intercom Tuesday.

Several students say they're still scared.

"Especially as a woman," said Erin Helmick, 16.

A group of teens walking home from school Tuesday said they've never felt completely safe at Chamberlain, but their fears were previously aimed at outsiders. Bynum was supposed to be there.

"We need more cops," said Yessenia Vazquez, 17.

"And cameras," said her friend Mariah Hernandez, 17.

And maybe a buddy system, suggested Lynn Johnson, the mother of a freshman.

She received a recorded phone message sent to Chamberlain parents Tuesday. In it, principal Morrill says a student has been arrested on a sexual battery charge. He assures parents their children's safety is a priority.

"I was shocked," Johnson said. "I felt so bad for the girl."

The incident happened in a boy's restroom near the gym, which is at the end of a hallway and next to the stadium. Police say they're interviewing potential witnesses and ask anyone who may have seen anything to contact the school's resource officer.

After Monday's incident, Chamberlain officials plan to limit hall passes to emergencies. Other measures might come later, after school authorities meet with Tampa police, said district spokeswoman Linda Cobbe.

Chamberlain, like most schools in Hillsborough County, does not have surveillance cameras. There's a school resource officer, but no one is assigned to monitor halls between class, Cobbe said.

"It's a matter of resources," she said. "Teachers need to be in class during class time."

The problem with a buddy system, Cobbe said, is that students should be inside classrooms, learning. Officials want to limit the number of teens walking the halls during class.

Hillsborough County School Board member Candy Olson said it's difficult to ensure all students are safe all of the time.

"Always, when something like this happens, as board members we ask ourselves, 'What could have been done better?' " she said. "And we always know there is no easy answer."

Bynum was taken to the Juvenile Assessment Center on Monday. His father, Freddie Mitchell, said his son told detectives the sex was consensual.

Police say evidence and interviews show otherwise.

The girl's version of events remained consistent and was corroborated by the medical exam, said Tampa police spokeswoman Laura McElroy.

Bynum, on the other hand, first told detectives he had no contact with the girl. He changed his story later, McElroy said, telling police the pair had consensual oral sex.

However, the medical test indicated there was intercourse, police said.

http://www.tampabay.com/news/publicsafety/crime/tampa-police-teen-rapes-fellow-student-inside-chamberlain-high-school/1195145

Bynum was taken to the Juvenile Assessment Center on Monday. His father, Freddie Mitchell, said his son told detectives the sex was consensual.

Police say evidence and interviews show otherwise.

Good grief!!! Are you people still at it, a year later??? This thread should have died a merciful death ages ago.

If this case runs true to form the alleged evidence is nothing more than proof that they actually had sex, and interviews dont show that anyone saw or heard anything that indicated violence only that other people have chosen to believe the alleged victim because she acted like she was violated.

In February 2010, Bynum was arrested for simple battery on a school resource officer at Sligh Middle School, records show. Two months later, he was arrested again for failing to appear in court on those charges.

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Only those who are weak and not attractive to women feel the need to rape.

I have no doubt but that you likewise feel that the only women who want to be ravished or taken in hand by their man are the mentally ill ones. You must be a very boring ****.

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You know the old standards that had serve mankind well for hundreds of years.

Those "old standards" did serve mankind well--they allowed men to rape women with impunity.

Of course they did, because men suck......according to you.

The theory of consent does not work for sex law, the entire idea needs to be thrown out, and we need to go back to sexual violation being an act of force above physically demonstrated objection...that if the woman is not trying to beat the guy off of her then it is not rape. Getting beat by you woman is a clear line between go/no go , and a clear line is reguired out of consideration for justice.

Prosecutors: Elderly woman gave food to homeless man before rape
BY CASEY TONER Sun-Times Media
September 26, 2011

By many accounts, the cluster of houses and apartments in a leafy area behind The Home Depot in Orland Park is a safe and family-friendly place.

It’s a quiet community where people feel free to walk their dogs and let their children play outside without fear.

Thus it came as a shock to many residents that a homeless man pushed down and allegedly sexually assaulted an 83-year-old woman Friday morning in a nearby field.

Dennis D. Dodson Jr., 34, who was arrested later Friday and charged with one count of aggravated criminal sexual assault, a Class X felony, was ordered held on $1.5 million bond Monday, prosecutors said. A preliminary hearing was set for Oct. 14.

The victim previously had given the man food and money in an attempt to help him out, according to court records. Prosecutors said the man lived in the nearby wooded area.

The alleged incident has left residents wary.

“All the time now, you step out of the door and you start looking behind you,” said Zena Lux, who lives in a nearby condominium complex.

Prosecutors said the victim met Dodson last Thursday, a day before the attack. Walking home from a nearby bank, she cut behind The Home Depot, 7300 W. 159th St., as a shortcut, according to court records. She gave Dodson $5 and food and went home and sought help to find him a place to stay.

She returned later and brought him $10 and some crackers. That evening, she reached out to both her church and the Salvation Army to find him a place to stay. Both told her to call police and request that they do a well-being check on the man, court records said.

The woman returned on Friday to tell Dodson police would come to check on him. She noticed Dodson lying on the ground with beer cans around him, court records said. He became agitated that she called police and grabbed her by the shoulders. He then began kissing her and tried to force his tongue into her mouth, court records said.

He threw her to the ground and sexually assaulted her. He put his hand over her mouth during the assault as she screamed, then rode away on a bicycle, prosecutors said.

The woman crawled through a fence to her home and called police. She suffered internal injuries in addition to bruises and scrapes on her back, and was taken to South Suburban Hospital in Hazel Crest for treatment, police said.

Dodson was located by police at 9:45 p.m. Friday at 170th Street and Harlem Avenue, less than two miles away from the site of the attack, police said.
http://www.suntimes.com/7888869-418/prosecutors-elderly-woman-gave-food-to-homeless-man-before-rape.html

No, in this case the police also believed the victim because the male lied when questioned by the police. He also denied having intercourse with her--the girl's medical exam indicated otherwise (there was medical evidence consistent with a forcible rape). That's why they arrested him the same day.

Denying that rapes occur, Hawkeye, as you routinely do, does not alter the reality of these crimes.

By many accounts, the cluster of houses and apartments in a leafy area behind The Home Depot in Orland Park is a safe and family-friendly place.

It’s a quiet community where people feel free to walk their dogs and let their children play outside without fear.

Thus it came as a shock to many residents that a homeless man pushed down and allegedly sexually assaulted an 83-year-old woman Friday morning in a nearby field.

Dennis D. Dodson Jr., 34, who was arrested later Friday and charged with one count of aggravated criminal sexual assault, a Class X felony, was ordered held on $1.5 million bond Monday, prosecutors said. A preliminary hearing was set for Oct. 14.

It is both sad and shocking that a female student cannot attend high school without the fear of being raped

Recognize rape culture, help prevent the silence
By Anna Eskamani
Guest Columnist
October 5, 2011

Sexual assault is a crime that takes shape in many forms. It includes attacks such as rape or attempted rape, sodomy, child molestation, incest or fondling. Assailants can be strangers, acquaintances, friends or family members, and they commit these crimes by way of violence, threats, coercion, manipulation, pressure or tricks. Whatever the circumstances, whoever the assailant, no one asks or deserves to be sexually assaulted — and that is the bottom line.

Here on a college campus, it is estimated by the U.S. Department of Justice that one out of five college women will be sexually assaulted at some point within her academic years. And when a woman is sexually assaulted on a college campus, her most common reaction is to keep quiet.

With Domestic Violence Awareness Month before us, it is time for us to speak out and be heard. We live in a world where rape is often viewed as the victim's fault or as a crime that can't really exist.

It's called rape culture, and it is defined as "a complex of beliefs that encourages male sexual aggression and supports violence against women." Rape culture is rooted in our patriarchal society and lies within the concept that women are the possession of men. Possession alludes to objectification of women, which is another component of rape culture.

There are those who deny the existence of a rape culture and will instead argue that situations of "campus rape cases exist in the gray area of seeming cooperation and tacit consent." Ergo, rape culture is just a myth, and most cases of rape would not actually be considered rape because they are, in fact, consensual.

In contrast, I would argue that rape culture is everywhere. We see it among our favorite films and video games. Take for instance movies like Observe and Report, which makes a joke of the raping of a drunk, vomiting woman. In video games like Grand Theft Auto, your character can sexually assault prostitutes and passersby. Rape culture is even expressed through everyday conversations with the all-too-common phrase of "I totally raped that quiz."

With examples like these, I find it incredibly frustrating that there are those who still refuse to acknowledge the existence of rape culture. Take into consideration a passerby at UCF's SlutWalk. SlutWalk is a global movement started by a Canadian officer who advised young women that they should not dress like "sluts" if they did not want to get raped. His words were rooted in rape culture, and his notion of blaming the victim launched an international campaign to end slut-shaming. The unnamed passerby at SlutWalk heckled the crowd as he walked by and asserted that "rape has nothing to do with sluts."

He's right. Rape shouldn't have anything to do with so-called sluts. Rape is not initiated by short skirts, cleavage, flirty behavior or quick eye contact. Rape is not caused by late night party-goers or even late night joggers. Rape is not a woman's fault. But our rape culture disagrees; and until we accept the fact that rape culture is real, until we accept the notion that women are frequently objectified and thus treated like objects, we are never going to break the cycle of blaming the victim, or in this case, blaming the slut.

My hope for this month and for months to come is that we re-evaluate our perceptions of rape and begin to demand more from our society. Women should not be scared of getting raped if our skirts are too short, if our drinks are too heavy or if the night is too dark. We are human and deserve to be treated as such. If you're ignoring the rape culture, you are only adding more silence to an issue that deserves more noise
http://www.centralfloridafuture.com/opinion/recognize-rape-culture-help-prevent-the-silence-1.2646638

BillRM and Hawkeye demonstrate rape denial and rape myths and rape apology to such an extreme degree, the best thing is just to let them go on talking--to each other. They illustrate the problem of the "rape culture" beautifully.