Hey, Can A Woman "Ask To Get Raped"?

Then perhaps you should go back to the beginning of this thread where you were talking about women shouldn't want to put their rapists in jail but just forgive them. That is not a direct quote so don't jump me for it. What it is, is the point I got from what you posted.

It all depends on what definition we are using for rape...if it is the current one then ya, most of the time the criminal system is not going to be of much help to the victim and society makes a mistake when we aggressively penalize the one we have labeled the abuser. This is true for stat rape as well. And for porn. However aggressive sexual violation is a matter for us all to be concerned about, and while bashing the transgressor is not going to do much or anything to help the victim heal it is still something that we need to do. The main thing that we do wrong in going after real rapists though is that we are plenty willing to abuse the victim some more in our pursuit of the rapist.

I think what you are thinking of is my position that the victim does not owe society allowing herself to be victimized some more by the criminal system as we go after the rapist. I would counsel a victim that if she wants to turn in her rapist, wants to help the state to take a pound of flesh, then go for it, but realize that not only is this likely to not going to help you heal but often makes everything worse for you. If you the victim want to keep this to yourself, want to heal without getting involved in the states program to exact vengeance then do that, and please dont feel an ounce of guilt for putting yourself first. You have been hurt, society has already let you down, your first obligation is to yourself.

I also have said that the one who is transgressed upon has not fully healed until the can forgive their rapist. There are certainly a lot of people who disagree with me on that. I usually find them to be victims who think that they have fully healed but who have not, they are deluding themselves.

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Ionus seems to be familiar with the prison system. He keeps talking about men being raped in prison. The moron doesn't seem to acknowledge that even if that is true, it is still men doing the raping.

It is true you doddering old fart, and it shows your anti-man stance. You have been asexual too long. Try to remember what it was like to have testosterone. You only want to blame men and tell women how awful their lives are...you are one sick **** and are in excellent company with the sick bitches here-in.

He is blinded by his own agenda and that agenda seems to be ME, ME, ME!

Your agenda is RAPE RAPE RAPE....it is very empowering for bitches who have made bad choices in life and need a scapegoat.

You know I can put up with someone like Firefly who is bright but very dishonest but AM is just plain stupid and to the point that she can not even understand simple concepts that a normal 12 years olds would have no trouble in understanding.

I just needed to take extra blood pressure pills after trying to get a little understanding into her brain cells.

Thank god for the ignore function as I can not take her stupidity any longer.

Who are you and what have you done with Hawkeye???????? What you just posted seems well thought out and yes, even compassionate. If this is truly your view then good on ya

leave out the insults and the feminist stuff you actually seem quite pleasant

I have to tell you that you truly did make my jaw drop when you made that post to Bill

You made it clear you think I am lying about my being raped

I do not find you a very irrational human being.

I think it common sense to deduct from that your opinion means more to you than having a common, civil, and equally informational discussion.

What is your obsession with men being raped in prison? Seems like a really pretty sick obsession if you ask me. You do realize it is other men that are raping them, right?

I already have more cojones than you do. You growing a penis isn't going to do a thing to make you a man.

I got the help I needed and I am a much happier person.

What I do care about is ANYONE that is raped gets the help they need in order to heal.

You waste your life with obsession and anger instead of realizing you can't blame ALL when it was ONE that did something.

At least every once in awhile Bill or Hawkeye will show some compassion.

You do realize it is other men that are raping them, right?

This is why I say you need help.

They were my decisions and I can blame no one for them but myself.

Say what you want.

I know the only reason you are trying to be hateful and hurtful to me

Sick bitches? What happened to make you hate women?

You really are to be pitied. You probably can't help the way you are.

The fact that you continually refer to women as bitches is very curious.

.....tell us about how your balls are bigger than mine again

It is in your mind that we enjoy those rape stories

we have posted our sympathy, empathy and other such feelings.

You continually tell me what I say about what I think and feel is not what I think and feel.

You are a very rude, obnoxious, and bitter person.

By the way, I never said one word other than sympathetic ones when you said you were raped.

so I would stop wallowing in self-pity

By the way, I never said one word other than sympathetic ones when you said you were raped.