Hey, Can A Woman "Ask To Get Raped"?

@BillRM,

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The part of the military code, that placed a West Point cadet into a court martial for raping a female cadet who had jumped into his bed when he was sleeping and then started sexual activates with him under the theory she was too drunk to grant valid consent, just to start with.

No doubt if she had of driven off base to get laid they wouldnt have charged her with drink driving, they would have held her hand and put the car into a crusher.

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A US Navy survey following up rape victims found the MAJORITY had lied about being raped.

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Seriously, do you guys bother to proof what you post? What the heck is sexual activates and drink driving? It's hard to take anyone seriously that doesn't care enough to make sure their thoughts are being clearly relayed.

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@firefly,

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Spare us the ugly anecdotes, from your own life, of the desperate, homeless women who would have sex with you only if you provided them with shelter, and only when you threatened to take that shelter away.

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Nice try but why are you so very fearful to address a straight forward question a simple no that would not be rape or yes that is rape as the consent was not granted willingly would had been all that is needed at least to start with.

Lord if there was ever a question that you hold positions on rapes laws that you are fearful to share it had been removed.

Once more Is or is not a man who had grain sexual consent by a threat of throwing a woman out of his home a rapist under your ideal rape law or is he not.

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@BillRM,

BillRM wrote:

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Spare us the ugly anecdotes, from your own life, of the desperate, homeless women who would have sex with you only if you provided them with shelter, and only when you threatened to take that shelter away.
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Nice try but why are you so very fearful to address a straight forward question a simple no that would not be rape or yes that is rape as the consent was not granted willingly would had been all that is needed at least to start with.

Lord if there was ever a question that you hold positions on rapes laws that you are fearful to share it had been removed.

Once more Is or is not a man who had grain sexual consent by a threat of throwing a woman out of his home a rapist under your ideal rape law or is he not.

If it isn't rape according to law at the very least it shows how pathetic the man is.

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@Arella Mae,

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What the heck is sexual activates and drink driving?

Well, sexual activities are activities that involve sex. Drink driving is the use of a vehicle (push bike, motor vehicle, horse drawn vehicle) in a public or government area whilst intoxicated.

Let me know if you have any more trouble.

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@Ionus,

Okay, I am guessing you either don't know how to really read well or spell well. Thanks anyway.

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@Arella Mae,

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If it isn't rape according to law at the very least it shows how pathetic the man is.

So a man had a moral duty to be understanding if his woman end their sex life for non-medical reasons and he is pathetic if he then end his relationship with her over the issue or at least is willing to do so.

Would for example it not be far more honest and straight forward if he informed her upfront that he does not wish a no sex relationship and if that is her wish then he was ending the relationship.

You see AM in my example I put it in the worst possible light of an evil man pressuring a poor woman for sex but in the real world it hardly ever that simple and pressures are place all the time between couples over all kind of matters including sex.

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@BillRM,

No, he's pathetic because he thinks sex is the all and all in a relationship and because she said no he tosses her out. As far as I am concerned, she's lucky to be rid of him.

Your problem is you do not understand that sometimes women and even men have reasons for not wanting to have sex at a certain time or whatever. It's part of life. Anyone that would throw a fit and throw a woman or man out because they won't have sex is insecure, childish, and has no idea what love is about.

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@Arella Mae,

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No, he's pathetic because he thinks sex is the all and all in a relationship and because she said no he tosses her out. As far as I am concerned, she's lucky to be rid of him.

Perhaps but she is going to have a hard time indeed forming a new couple relationship with another man without it having a sexual component to it!!!!!!

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@BillRM,

Not necessarily. Hopefully, she will have learned from this experience and won't hook up with someone so selfish next time.

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@Arella Mae,

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Anyone that would throw a fit and throw a woman or man out because they won't have sex is insecure, childish, and has no idea what love is about.

That's the thing, once you start thinking that you have the right to decide for other people how they should live this tendency to try to run other peoples lives tends to snow ball. You start out demanding to regulate sex, and before you know it you are trying to regulation relationship conditions too. It never ends. we know this, which is why we should have our collective heads examined for ever agreeing to follow the feminists in the first place.

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So a woman has a moral duty to be understanding if her man end their sex life for non-medical reasons and she is pathetic if she then end her relationship with him over the issue or at least is willing to do so.

Would for example it not be far more honest and straight forward if she informed him upfront that she does not wish a no sex relationship and if that is his wish then she was ending the relationship.

You see AM in my example I put it in the worst possible light of an evil woman pressuring a poor man for sex but in the real world it hardly ever that simple and pressures are place all the time between couples over all kind of matters including sex.

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@hawkeye10,

hawkeye10 wrote:

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Anyone that would throw a fit and throw a woman or man out because they won't have sex is insecure, childish, and has no idea what love is about.
That's the thing, once you start thinking that you have the right to decide for other people how they should live this tendency to try to run other peoples lives tends to snow ball. You start out demanding to regulate sex, and before you know it you are trying to regulation relationship conditions too. It never ends. we know this, which is why we should have our collective heads examined for ever agreeing to follow the feminists in the first place.

I am entitled to my opinion and THAT is my opinion on the matter.

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@tenderfoot,

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So a woman has a moral duty to be understanding if her man end their sex life for non-medical reasons and she is pathetic if she then end her relationship with him over the issue or at least is willing to do so.

Would for example it not be far more honest and straight forward if she informed him upfront that she does not wish a no sex relationship and if that is his wish then she was ending the relationship.

You see AM in my example I put it in the worst possible light of an evil woman pressuring a poor man for sex but in the real world it hardly ever that simple and pressures are place all the time between couples over all kind of matters including sex.

Huh? You reposted what Bill said?

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@hawkeye10,

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considering that I showed beyond a doubt that I understand my state laws better than you do.

You mean the rape in the 3rd degree law that you completely misinterpreted? Laughing

The ONE SENTENCE, extremely simply worded law, that was too difficult for you to understand, and consequently left you insisting, "The absence of a 'yes' is a 'no'"--when the law clearly says otherwise. Laughing

What you showed was that you cannot read a simple sentence without distorting its meaning. Laughing

What you showed was that you didn't even realize it was a "No means no" law. Laughing

What it showed was that you apparently never read your state sexual assault laws before you started complaining about them. Laughing

What it showed was that you don't seem to have any real complaints about your actual state sexual assault laws--which makes all your bitching about them rather pointless and absurd. Laughing

If you're getting nervous that your preferred modes of sexual gratification might be criminalized (if they aren't already criminal) I can see where that might be a problem for you. But, most people don't have that problem. Laughing

Get a good criminal attorney and try for an insanity defense. After the jury hears your paranoid rant about the "feminist" conspiracy that covertly controls "sex law" and is trying to take over the government, and that violating the rape laws is an act of civil disobedience for you, they might advise the judge to show you some mercy. Laughing

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@Ionus,

Ionus seems to have little familiarity with the rape laws of Australia, where he lives. He has yet to cite a specific rape law from his country and explain exactly why he considers the law to be in need of change and what that change should be. Instead, his posts are mostly insults and put-downs of whatever others say and post, and they are heavily laced with vulgarities and blatantly sexist. That does not disguise his ignorance of the sexual assault laws of Australia, it simply allows him to display his boundless capacity for extreme nastiness.

Apparently, the task of actually reading those very simple rape laws is too intellectually challenging for him. Too much strain on the little brain. Laughing

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@Ionus,

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Ahhh...dummy ? We have been discussing rape laws.

No, you've shown no knowledge of actual rape laws or what is contained in them.

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Maybe that is your reason for arguing here.....low self esteem from being a sex addict leaves you with no choice but to claim rape so you can feel better about yourself

You really are an insensitive pig to make that comment to Arella Mae. Arella Mae is a rape victim, and she has discussed that in this thread. If you're trying to prove what a vulgar lowlife you are, you've done a fine job of it.

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@Ionus,

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I bow to your experience. Clearly you have had more sexual partners then all of us put together. Maybe that is your reason for arguing here.....low self esteem from being a sex addict leaves you with no choice but to claim rape so you can feel better about yourself.

I am sorry you feel the need to say such things to me. You said you were a victim of rape and I know what it is like to have painful and angry feelings leftover from it. I forgive you.

I would never deny that I've had more sexual partners than I should have. Unfortunately, because of what my father did to me, I equated sex with love for a long, long time. Today, I know better.

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Someone accused of raping and beating an 85 year old woman probably does have reason to fear for his safety in jail--other inmates might well want to beat him to a pulp. But, other than possibly being put into protective custody, it is hard to see why he'd merit any other special consideration.

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Alleged rapist may be harmed: lawyer
Daniel Fogarty
January 31, 2011

A Victorian father charged with raping an 85-year-old woman may be harmed by vigilantes in custody, says his lawyer.

Allan Richard Hodson, 65, is accused of bashing and raping the elderly woman after dragging her into a public toilet at Melbourne's Southern Cross train station in a daylight attack last Thursday.

Hodson, of Bairnsdale, has a wife and children, including a severely disabled daughter, Latrobe Valley Magistrates Court heard on Monday during a brief court appearance.

Hodson's lawyer Clem D'Alessandro asked his client's name and address be suppressed from media publication because of fears for his safety.

He also asked that Hodson be seen by a psychologist and medical practitioner and that he be placed in protective custody.

Mr D'Alessandro told the court, sitting in Morwell, that he feared vigilantes who heard about the "very significant and severe" allegations in the media may seek revenge by harming Hodson or his family.

"There might be the element of someone out there in the community wanting to have retribution," Mr D'Alessandro said.

He said Hodson had previously attempted to harm himself and had a number of medical conditions, including a nervous condition and high blood pressure.

Lead investigator Detective Sergeant Doug Smith conceded there may be some risk to Hodson in custody because of the nature of the allegations, but said there was no threat to his family.

"I have spoken at length to his family, they feel comfortable, they don't feel under any threat at all," he said.

Magistrate Louis Hill refused the suppression order application.

He said suppression orders should never be made lightly and Hodson was in a position that was no different to other defendants.

Hodson made no application for bail and was remanded in custody to appear in Melbourne Magistrates' Court on Friday.

He is charged with intentionally causing serious injury, recklessly causing serious injury, rape, unlawful imprisonment, indecent assault, threatening to kill and inflict serious injury and assault.

At a media conference last Friday, Det Sgt Smith said the woman remained in hospital "black and blue" with bruises and had a fracture to the face.

A man who police allege is Hodson is seen on CCTV in the area at the time.
http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-national/alleged-rapist-may-be-harmed-lawyer-20110131-1aav1.html

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