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Hey, Can A Woman "Ask To Get Raped"?

 
 
CalamityJane
 
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Reply Mon 26 Jul, 2010 10:01 pm
@hawkeye10,
blinded hawkeye wrote

Quote:
The DOJ stats are useless for anyone trying to get a handle on what actually goes on insides of homes.


Ah, and you know what goes on inside homes, right? You're getting more
incredulous by the minute.
hawkeye10
 
  -2  
Reply Mon 26 Jul, 2010 10:07 pm
@CalamityJane,
Science has other ways to figure that out, and I linked to some of the work. How about you go do your homework before you make more of a fool of yourself?
CalamityJane
 
  1  
Reply Mon 26 Jul, 2010 10:25 pm
@hawkeye10,
Science? You don't even know what science is and the rubbish you linked
is worthless private opinion. I have not only done my homework, I've done
yours too, not to mention BillRM's who can't even understand the link he
quotes from.

Let's face it, you're all alone in your delusional world.
BillRM
 
  -1  
Reply Mon 26 Jul, 2010 10:32 pm
@CalamityJane,
Quote:
According to the American Bar Association in their domestic violence statistic:
sexual violence against men is also mainly male violence: 70% of rapes, 86% of physical assaults, and 65% of stalking acts were perpetrated by men
.

I had no idea that the ABA was a scientific body I was always under the impression that they was a trade association for lawyers.
BillRM
 
  -1  
Reply Mon 26 Jul, 2010 10:34 pm
@CalamityJane,
Quote:
So the innocent victim - mostly the wife - is arrested also, even though she most likely is innocent. Based on the
dual arrests, the number of arrests for women has increased three times -
which is problematic as these consequences are significant for the innocent
victim - predominately women.


That why I been saying that the law is not a good law for the last dozen postings as people who should not be arrested are being arrested.
hawkeye10
 
  -1  
Reply Mon 26 Jul, 2010 10:36 pm
@CalamityJane,
Quote:
private opinion
I have documented my statements with scientific study and the opinion of academics, if that is not worth looking at for you then I'll take that as proof that you want your head to be in the sand.
CalamityJane
 
  1  
Reply Mon 26 Jul, 2010 10:38 pm
@BillRM,
Aha! The law in general, Bill, or did you have some specifics in mind. What's
a good law in your opinion?
CalamityJane
 
  1  
Reply Mon 26 Jul, 2010 10:39 pm
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:

Quote:
According to the American Bar Association in their domestic violence statistic:
sexual violence against men is also mainly male violence: 70% of rapes, 86% of physical assaults, and 65% of stalking acts were perpetrated by men
.

I had no idea that the ABA was a scientific body I was always under the impression that they was a trade association for lawyers.


Who do you think handles domestic violence cases? The milkman?
Based on the domestic violence cases making it to court, the ABA reported
its statistics thereof.
BillRM
 
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Reply Mon 26 Jul, 2010 10:42 pm
@CalamityJane,
A law that allows some degree of human judgment by the first responders such as the police would be nice.


hawkeye10
 
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Reply Mon 26 Jul, 2010 10:46 pm
@CalamityJane,
Quote:
Cal State Psychology Professor Martin Fiebert has assembled a bibliography of 175 scholarly investigations: 139 empirical studies and 36 reviews and/or analyses, which demonstrate that women are as physically aggressive, or more aggressive, than men in their relationships with their spouses or male partners. http://www.csulb.edu/~mfiebert/assault.htm
http://www.mediaradar.org/media_fact_sheet.php

If you have anything better than this with a contradictory result please show it...if not have some class and step down. You are wrong.
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BillRM
 
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Reply Mon 26 Jul, 2010 10:47 pm
@CalamityJane,
Quote:
Who do you think handles domestic violence cases? The milkman?
Based on the domestic violence cases making it to court, the ABA reported
its statistics thereof.


And that in someway qualify them to understand how to gather the data and handle the statistic in a scientific manner?
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CalamityJane
 
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Reply Mon 26 Jul, 2010 10:53 pm
@hawkeye10,
I think you honestly don't know what a true scientific study is - which is documented and investigated by a reputable source of which none of yours
are.

hawkeye10
 
  -2  
Reply Mon 26 Jul, 2010 11:10 pm
@CalamityJane,
Ya, I am sure these experts are not good enough for you either
Daniel J. Whitaker, PhD, Tadesse Haileyesus, MS, Monica Swahn, PhD and Linda S. Saltzman, PhD

At the time of this study, Daniel J. Whitaker and Linda S. Saltzman were with the Division of Violence Prevention, National Center for Injury Prevention and Control, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, Atlanta, Ga. Tadesse Haileyesus is with the Office of Statistics and Programming, National Center for Injury Prevention and Control. Monica Swahn is with the Office on Smoking and Health, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention

Quote:
In nonreciprocally violent relationships, women were the perpetrators in more than 70% of the cases.

http://ajph.aphapublications.org/cgi/content/abstract/97/5/941

Face it, the relevance of the message to you is directly proportional to how closely they come to telling you what you want to hear.
CalamityJane
 
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Reply Mon 26 Jul, 2010 11:48 pm
@hawkeye10,
You're picking a statement completely out of context - so clearly your modus operandi all the while so wrong.

Look, first of all, they used an age group of 18 - 28 year olds, and out of that
24 % had a violent relationship - whereas violent is not defined at all here -
not really a scientific study, but let's continue: they stipulate that half (49.7%) of those 24 % (which is 12 %) were reciprocally violent, which means the other half (12 %) was in a non reciprocally violent relationship - whatever that means.
Out of those 12 % they claim that women were the perpetrators in 70 % of the
cases, which would mean roughly 8 %.

It further says that regarding injury, men were more likely to inflict injury than were women and reciprocal intimate partner violence was associated with greater injury than was nonreciprocal intimate partner violence which leads me to believe that nonreciprocal intimate partner violence is not necessarily associated with bodily harm. That explains why the majority of women are perpetrators of non reciprocal violent relationships - they include verbal altercations as violence.

Now there is your link thoroughly explained, hawkeye. Instead of picking
a nonsense phrase from an entire article, I laid it all out for you.
Intrepid
 
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Reply Tue 27 Jul, 2010 12:54 am
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:

Quote:
According to the American Bar Association in their domestic violence statistic:
sexual violence against men is also mainly male violence: 70% of rapes, 86% of physical assaults, and 65% of stalking acts were perpetrated by men
.

I had no idea that the ABA was a scientific body I was always under the impression that they was a trade association for lawyers.



Wrong again, William.

It is not, as you say, a trade association. It is much more than that. Look it up. Hopefully, you will be able to understand what you read.
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Intrepid
 
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Reply Tue 27 Jul, 2010 12:55 am
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:

Quote:
So the innocent victim - mostly the wife - is arrested also, even though she most likely is innocent. Based on the
dual arrests, the number of arrests for women has increased three times -
which is problematic as these consequences are significant for the innocent
victim - predominately women.


That why I been saying that the law is not a good law for the last dozen postings as people who should not be arrested are being arrested.



Yes. The women, you idiot!
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Intrepid
 
  3  
Reply Tue 27 Jul, 2010 12:56 am
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:

A law that allows some degree of human judgment by the first responders such as the police would be nice.





What are you talking about? This happens all the time.
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Intrepid
 
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Reply Tue 27 Jul, 2010 12:58 am
@CalamityJane,
Take a look at the RADAR site that Hawkeye advocates. It is an apologetics site that is just as full of **** as Hawkeye. This was the one site that I mentioned in an earlier post that Hawkeye could find. No integrity here.
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Tue 27 Jul, 2010 01:25 am
@CalamityJane,
Quote:
Now there is your link thoroughly explained, hawkeye. Instead of picking
a nonsense phrase from an entire article, I laid it all out for you.
But you can't read...in the 50% of the cases where only one side is aggressive 70% of the time that one person is the woman.

I know that this will not register as significant with you, but this is pretty damning of women. It says that 85% of the time the woman is involved in perpetrating the aggression, where as men are only perpetrators 65% of the time. It also says that men are more resistant to getting dragged into the cycle of aggression, they stand there and take the abuse, and do not respond in kind.

hawkeye10
 
  -2  
Reply Tue 27 Jul, 2010 01:42 am
@hawkeye10,
Quote:
GAINESVILLE, Fla. — Women are more likely than men to stalk, attack and psychologically abuse their partners, according to a University of Florida study that finds college women have a new view of the dating scene.

“We’re seeing women in relationships acting differently nowadays than we have in the past,” said Angela Gover, a UF criminologist who led the research. “The nature of criminality has been changing for females, and this change is reflected in intimate relationships as well.”

In a survey of 2,500 students at UF and the University of South Carolina between August and December 2005, more than a quarter (29 percent) reported physically assaulting their dates and 22 percent reported being the victims of attacks during the past year. Thirty-two percent of women reported being the perpetrators of this violence, compared with 24 percent of men. The students took selected liberal arts and sciences courses. Forty percent were men and 60 percent were women, reflecting the gender composition of these classes.
http://news.ufl.edu/2006/07/13/women-attackers/
 

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