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Hey, Can A Woman "Ask To Get Raped"?

 
 
Arella Mae
 
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Reply Sun 2 Jan, 2011 08:59 pm
What a stupid liar Robill is! Makes it look like Leroy Strachan did no time at all for his murder crime. Made it look like they just forgave him. Go figure, eh Firefly? A bit of advice, it's not a good idea to try to twist anything you claim. The net is a wonderful way to prove someone a liar.
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ARTICLES BY DATENEWS

Nation IN BRIEF : NEW YORK : Prison Avoided in 45-Year-Old Murder
September 6, 1991 | From Times Staff and Wire Reports
A man who spent 45 years as a fugitive in the slaying of a Miami police officer will avoid prison under a plea bargain disclosed in a Manhattan court. Leroy Strachan, 63, will be sentenced in Florida to one year in prison for manslaughter, but will be credited with the 19 months he already has served in New York while fighting extradition.
firefly
 
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Reply Sun 2 Jan, 2011 08:59 pm
@Arella Mae,
Did someone mention BDSM? Laughing
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/images/users/uploads/10959/umm-batman-batman-robin-comics-humor-demotivational-poster-1226565666.jpg
Arella Mae
 
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Reply Sun 2 Jan, 2011 09:00 pm
@firefly,
LOL!
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sun 2 Jan, 2011 09:10 pm
@firefly,
Thank you.....If you absolutely must act like a child the least you can do is keep it interesting with new material, dont think you have run this one before..
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Arella Mae
 
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Reply Sun 2 Jan, 2011 09:13 pm
@firefly,
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Hell a man as a young teenager 60 plus years ago kill the first black police officer in Miami from ambush but never afterward broke any laws and live a good and useful life and raised a family in New York.


In the end, he was not prosecuted for his crime and allows to return to NY to live out his remaining time on earth

Oh what a liar that Robill is!
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BillRM
 
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Reply Sun 2 Jan, 2011 09:13 pm
@Arella Mae,
Fool he did sit in a jail cell in NY during the fight over bringing him to Florida but he serve no jail time after the plea deal and was send home at once or within a few weeks in any case just as I had said he was.

They drag him to Florida have a hearing and a plea deal and then send him home.



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Arella Mae
 
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Reply Sun 2 Jan, 2011 09:14 pm
@firefly,
Someone needs to tell him to not try to weasel out of what he said. I posted it for all to see!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Liar, liar pants on fire!
firefly
 
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Reply Sun 2 Jan, 2011 09:21 pm
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Goodman proposes bill to protect rape victims
January 2, 2011
By Caleb Heeringa

A bill being crafted by local state representative Roger Goodman aims to protect rape victims from being cross-examined in court by their attackers.

Limiting the trauma of such situations has long been a priority of Goodman’s and legislators have increased their attention to the issue following a November incident in which a victim climbed out a window of King County Superior Courthouse and threatened to jump rather than have to face her alleged rapist in court.

“We can’t allow a rapist to have the pleasure of questioning and controlling their victims on the witness stand,” said Goodman, a Democrat who represents the 45th district, which includes parts of Sammamish north of Northeast 16th Street.

The issue comes up primarily when an accused rapist is acting as his own attorney, which would allow him to cross-examine his victim personally.
An earlier version of the bill, which would have required defendants representing themselves to question their accusers through closed-circuit television or through a court-appointed attorney, passed the state house last year but faltered in the senate due to concerns that the legislature was overstepping its legal authority by telling the courts how to operate.

The issue also has the potential of running into a sticky constitutional issue – the sixth amendment grants a person the right to confrontront their accuser in court. Kimberly Gordon, a Seattle defense lawyer who lobbies in Olympia on behalf of the Washington Defender Association, and testified against last year’s bill, said she could not comment on the current bill without seeing the exact language. She was concerned about the premise, though, and said putting limits on a person’s right to question their accuser was a constitutional “minefield.” She said the U.S. Supreme Court has ruled against several other limitations on the sixth amendment, including the allowance of a 9-1-1 call instead of live testimony by a victim.

“I think everyone wants to prevent a situation like what happened in Seattle,” Gordon said. “But there’s hardly any aspect of a criminal trial that is more important in finding the truth than the cross-examination of a person alleged to be a victim. There isn’t any other good way around it.”

Goodman said he is confident that the new version of the bill – House Bill 1001 – respects the judicial branch’s authority and provides enough alternatives to face-to-face questioning that it won’t be in conflict with the sixth amendment. He’s spent recent weeks with court officials such as Washington State Supreme Court Chief Justice Barbara Madsen honing the language of the measure.

Goodman has also had input from victim advocates and the mother of the victim who threatened suicide. Prosecutors dropped the charges related to the woman after the incident, though earlier this month the court found the defendant guilty of seven other charges related to rape and child molestation. Prosecutors expect that the 40-year-old man will spend the rest of his life in prison.

Whereas the first bill instructed the court how to change their rules, this one politely requests it, Goodman said. It also suggests a series of alternatives to direct cross-examination, including having the defendant deliver questions for the victim in writing. Goodman said courts could choose to make similar rules for domestic violence cases.

Gordon said judges already have discretion to set up rules for a trial and have the authority to stop a line of harassing or malicious questioning from a defendant.

“There are tools that judges already have at their disposal,” she said. “I don’t know that the answer is to limit constitutional rights.”

But Goodman, a lawyer who has long been active in law and justice issues at the state level, said it’s not enough to leave the emotional welfare of rape victims up to a judge’s discretion. He hopes the bill will put an end to the horror stories he hears of rapists taking advantage of the courtroom to “torture” their victims one last time.

“Our justice system cannot endorse courtroom theater that leaves witnesses incapacitated with fear and unable to testify,” he said.

Goodman expects to introduce the bill during the legislative session that begins Jan. 10.
http://sammamishreview.com/2011/01/02/goodman-proposes-bill-to-protect-rape-victims
BillRM
 
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Reply Sun 2 Jan, 2011 09:23 pm
@Arella Mae,
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Made it look like they just forgave him.


That is just what they did do once they got him to Florida they had a hearing and then send him home.

Once more he fought being send to Florida and lost and then he plea deal and was send home he serve no time in a Florida prison and only a week or two in a Florida jail.

The only time he was behind bars for any length of time was in NY being held for a possible extradition to Florida.

Lord I had one hell of a great memory to remember that must details correctly from reading the papers at the time 20 years ago!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Arella Mae
 
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Reply Sun 2 Jan, 2011 09:25 pm
@firefly,
No way should a victim of any crime have the right to be cross examined by some criminal serving as their own lawyer.

BillW
 
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Reply Sun 2 Jan, 2011 09:27 pm
BillRM and Hawkeye captured on camera today outside girls prep school........

http://www.funpicsfree.com/photogallery/funny-pics-0924/funny-pic-ugly-man2.jpg
http://toffsmen.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/ugly-men-15.jpg
Arella Mae
 
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Reply Sun 2 Jan, 2011 09:29 pm
@BillW,
Look at the widdle worm squiggling to cover up for getting caught in a flat out lie. Nic to see ya Bill!

http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/3152/youaretoofunnyag1o.gif
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BillRM
 
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Reply Sun 2 Jan, 2011 09:31 pm
AM I am getting the impression that you are losing it completely.


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Arella Mae
 
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Reply Sun 2 Jan, 2011 09:33 pm
Now, how sad is THAT? Can't even admit to his own words!
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sun 2 Jan, 2011 09:36 pm
@firefly,
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But Goodman, a lawyer who has long been active in law and justice issues at the state level, said it’s not enough to leave the emotional welfare of rape victims up to a judge’s discretion.
Because previous denuding of judges authority over their courtrooms has worked so well the bring health to our broken legal system...*sarcasm*

It just occurs to me that the zero tolerance policies in schools, those policies that we either laugh or cry over because what they produce in practice is so shockingly stupid and wasteful, are the perfect form for rape feminist control of the collective. No person ever has any authority to make a decision, everything is written out ahead of time by our bosses in cookbook fashion, with maximum punishment assumed just for every crime, no matter how small. We no longer need to worry about some criminal getting less punishment than he deserves, because everyone gets the max and no one can change the sentence under any circumstances. We can get some flunky to sit behind the bench, as all they need to do is read out the penalty for the alleged crime.
BillRM
 
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Reply Sun 2 Jan, 2011 09:37 pm
@Arella Mae,
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No way should a victim of any crime have the right to be cross examined by some criminal serving as their own lawyer.


The hell with the constitution and the right to be assume innocent until and if found guilty.

Any one charge with a crime by AM thinking is already a criminal with no right to act as his own lawyer.

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Arella Mae
 
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Reply Sun 2 Jan, 2011 09:39 pm
I will conceed (however you spell that) to I should not have said a criminal as his own attorney. It does not change the fact that the defendant should not be able to cross examine the victim.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sun 2 Jan, 2011 09:44 pm
@Arella Mae,
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I will conceed (however you spell that) to I should not have said a criminal as his own attorney. It does not change the fact that the defendant should not be able to cross examine the victim.
That is ALLEGED victim, and given the 8-10% of rape allegation are bogus, and the seriousness of the charges, that sexual assault cases already violate the Constitution by assuming guilt and demanding the the accused clear his name to avoid penalty, the defendant has every right to confront his accuser as the Constitution provides for in the attempt to clear his name.
Arella Mae
 
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Reply Sun 2 Jan, 2011 09:46 pm
What a stupid twit! Having the right to face one's accuser does not mean the defendant gets to cross-examine them.

With every post, they just get dumber and dumber and dumber.
BillRM
 
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Reply Sun 2 Jan, 2011 09:50 pm
@hawkeye10,
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That is ALLEGED victim, and given the 8-10% of rape allegation are bogus


That figure of 8-10 is way low by any number of studies ranging from 25 percent <air force study>all the way to <42> percent for a ten year mid-western city study were the police did used lie detectors.
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