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Hey, Can A Woman "Ask To Get Raped"?

 
 
firefly
 
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Reply Sun 2 Jan, 2011 10:14 am
@BillRM,
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Lord you have big balls.

Try to control your jealousy.
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firefly
 
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Reply Sun 2 Jan, 2011 10:23 am
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Rape survivor's tale one of hope and heroism
Bonnie Erbe

Sunday, January 2, 2011

Discussion of surviving rape is not normal fare for the holiday season. But what better time to consider these stunning data from the Justice Department and to make a New Year's resolution to publicize the perpetrators of this horrible crime.

I am inspired to raise the topic after reading author and anti-sexual abuse activist Liz Seccuro's story in her book, "Crash Into Me." She was interviewed by producers of my PBS show, "To the Contrary with Bonnie Erbe."

Seccuro's story is as follows. She was a 17-year-old freshman at the University of Virginia when she was drugged and raped by men she did not know at a fraternity party. Seccuro reported the incident to university and medical officials. University officials told her the local police had no jurisdiction over the crime, but then took no legal action and no charges were pressed. Seccuro struggled for years with the nightmare of having not only been drugged, abused and violated, but since she was drugged, she could not completely recall what had happened to her. She believed she had been raped by more than one person.

Then in 2005, more than two decades later, she received an apology letter from William Nottingham Beebe, one of the men who raped her. It began, she recalls, "'Dear Elizabeth, In October of 1984, I harmed you, I can only imagine the pain in which through your eyes, my actions caused you and I stand ready to answer your questions, whatever they may be and to make amends.' Then he signed it and enclosed a business card."

She did not know what to do about this and struggled with it, finally launching an e-mail conversation with Beebe. After six months his responses became more erratic, so she contacted the Charlottesville, Va., police department. Unlike what she and her parents had been told when she was a freshman, the local police could indeed prosecute, and she decided to have Beebe prosecuted for the crime. He went to jail for 18 months, and became state's witness against other men who had raped Seccuro.

Seccuro is one of the lucky ones. She told our producers that Beebe contacted her while he was going through Alcoholics Anonymous' famous 12 step program to recovery. In that program, followers are taught that in order to recover from their addictions, they must make amends to people whom they have harmed.

According to the Justice Department, one in six American women will be sexually assaulted in her lifetime. Female college students are four times more likely to be raped or sexually assaulted. According to the Justice Department, 60 percent of rapes are not reported to the police. A mere 6 percent of rapists serve time in prison.

Six percent? That figure is horrifying, as is the fact that one in six American women suffers sexual abuse. Just as horrifying is the fact that as late as 26 years ago, university officials would fail to advise a freshman of her legal rights, and partake in prosecuting other students guilty of heinous crimes.

Seccuro survived her trauma, went on to graduate from the University of Virginia and now advocates for rape victims. She and her husband formed a donor-advised fund called Sisters Together Assisting Rape Survivors (STARS) to help all victims of rape, sexual abuse and incest. There's a movie in the works about her story.

Rape and sexual abuse will never end as long as American society continues to permit boys to be raised to view violence as a normal and even necessary part of life. But we can come closer if we publicize, prosecute and punish sexual assault perpetrators. Seccuro's story is not only a heroic tale. It is also one of hope, that women can survive rape and that one day maybe surviving this life-altering crime will no longer be necessary.

Bonnie Erbe is a TV host and writes this column for Scripps Howard News Service. her e-mail is [email protected].
http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2011/jan/02/rape-survivors-tale-one-of-hope-and-heroism/
BillRM
 
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Reply Sun 2 Jan, 2011 11:11 am
@Intrepid,
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Engineer? How do you communicate with such bad grammar and command of the English language?

Your second sentence shows just how ridiculously stupid you really are.


Well my firm was nice enough to have paid me as such for 33 years.

Second, one of the reasons you end up paying sectaries 1/8 what you pay engineers is to fine tune reports is that the ability to do second or third order differential equations or Laplace transformations and created well constructed English sentences are rarely contain in the same brain pan.

The third reason is that is far far cheaper to off load touching up engineering reports to such secretaries then to take the time of the engineering staff to do so.

Hell, we had a very amusing occurrence when a very high level PHD computer scientist on a opening screen of a test program misspell the Company name!
BillRM
 
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Reply Sun 2 Jan, 2011 11:15 am
@firefly,
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According to the Justice Department, one in six American women will be sexually assaulted in her lifetime. Female college students are four times more likely to be raped or sexually assaulted. According to the Justice Department, 60 percent of rapes are not reported to the police. A mere 6 percent of rapists serve time in prison.


Pleas take note this is the very same justice department that gave grant money to the fools who came up with the 1/4 number for college rapes.
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firefly
 
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Reply Sun 2 Jan, 2011 11:24 am
@Intrepid,
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Engineer? How do you communicate with such bad grammar and command of the English language?

Not only that, this alleged computer genius--who has advised those at A2K who want to protect/hide child pornography on their computers to use truecrypt and not give the government the password--apparently doesn't know how to download a spell checker to make his posts more intelligible.

BillRM also claims his wife holds a Ph.D., but he writes it as PHD. Laughing

You can't get a college degree in engineering without basic literacy skills--including the ability to express yourself coherently in writing.

I think he's mainly been educated in a barroom. Drunk

He and Hawkeye are both phonies.
BillRM
 
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Reply Sun 2 Jan, 2011 11:41 am
@firefly,
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You can't get a college degree in engineering without basic literacy skills--including the ability to express yourself coherently in writing.


Would you like to put 10,000 dollars with an agree third party to hold on your claimed that I am not a holder of a valid BSEE degree Firefly? Razz

In fact any other person who would care to get in on this feel free to do so.

Hell I could free up fifty thousands so there is plenty of room/money for all you people that are stupid enough to follow Firefly off that cliff.

Please please feel free to do so.
Intrepid
 
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Reply Sun 2 Jan, 2011 11:43 am
@BillRM,
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Hell, we had a very amusing occurrence when a very high level PHD computer scientist on a opening screen of a test program misspell the Company name!



Hell, you must find it equally amusing when YOU spell most every word incorrectly!
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BillRM
 
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Reply Sun 2 Jan, 2011 11:44 am
@firefly,
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who has advised those at A2K who want to protect/hide child pornography on their computers


Firefly I was not aware that there was an existing community on Able2Know who are into child porn.

Are you claiming that they are using this website to trade such materials?
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Intrepid
 
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Reply Sun 2 Jan, 2011 11:44 am
@firefly,
firefly wrote:

Don't you also love his reference to the "feminsits"? Laughing

And, if rape is such a rare occurrence, why does his wife carry a 38 or a riot shotgun with her? Laughing

Guess he's already having a little hair of the dog Drunk Drunk Drunk




I come to expect Billy not to make sense or use logic in his ramblings. Logic is not his longsuit.
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Intrepid
 
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Reply Sun 2 Jan, 2011 11:46 am
@firefly,
firefly wrote:

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Engineer? How do you communicate with such bad grammar and command of the English language?

Not only that, this alleged computer genius--who has advised those at A2K who want to protect/hide child pornography on their computers to use truecrypt and not give the government the password--apparently doesn't know how to download a spell checker to make his posts more intelligible.

BillRM also claims his wife holds a Ph.D., but he writes it as PHD. Laughing

You can't get a college degree in engineering without basic literacy skills--including the ability to express yourself coherently in writing.

I think he's mainly been educated in a barroom. Drunk

He and Hawkeye are both phonies.


Your perception and keen eye are noteable. Billy must have eaten a log of Cracker Jack as a lad.
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Intrepid
 
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Reply Sun 2 Jan, 2011 11:47 am
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:

Quote:
You can't get a college degree in engineering without basic literacy skills--including the ability to express yourself coherently in writing.


Would you like to put 10,000 dollars with an agree third party to hold on your claimed that I am not a holder of a valid BSEE degree Firefly? Razz

In fact any other person who would care to get in on this feel free to do so.

Hell I could free up fifty thousands so there is plenty of room/money for all you people that are stupid enough to follow Firefly off that cliff.

Please please feel free to do so.


A degree doesn't make you any less stupid.
BillRM
 
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Reply Sun 2 Jan, 2011 11:49 am
@Intrepid,
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A degree doesn't make you any less stupid.


Come on support your leader as she is sure I do not have such a degree.
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firefly
 
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Reply Sun 2 Jan, 2011 11:57 am
@Intrepid,
Perhaps he got his engineering degree here. Laughing
http://www.noveltydegree.com/

His insistence on displaying his cognitive deficits just shows his appalling judgment. Most people wouldn't flaunt their ignorance, poor memories, lack of logic and reasoning skills,...But he does it in thread after thread...and he is SO dumb he does it with arrogance. Laughing
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Bill's posts should carry this warning Laughing
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BillRM
 
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Reply Sun 2 Jan, 2011 12:01 pm
@firefly,
Speaking of computer security/encrypting Firefly there seem a real need for a book that cover all aspects of the subject in terms a layman or laywoman can understand and yet be details enough to be highly useful.

Would you care to go say 70/30 on such a project with your job being to just polish up the manuscript for submission?

After all, if you take up my challenge on the degree question you are going to be needing extra funds.

I would ask my wife to do so but she would demand a 50/50 cut I am sure.
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Arella Mae
 
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Reply Sun 2 Jan, 2011 12:18 pm
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And one in four women will be rape in a four year period during their college years!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Women do not go to college.

Back to the real world now.


firefly and Intrepid, what is wrong with you two! WOMEN DON'T GO TO COLLEGE! (Bill said so, so it must be true)! If women don't go to college I'm guessing all these creatures walking about at Grambling are aliens....................can it get any dumber?

Back to the real world? I wonder if he means where women really do go to college?

I would venture a guess as to what hawkeye is really into because of what he says. He sounds like he follows the path with the creed "Do what thou wilt."
BillRM
 
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Reply Sun 2 Jan, 2011 12:25 pm
@Arella Mae,
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WOMEN DON'T GO TO COLLEGE! (Bill said so, so it must be true


Hmm please please repost where I had said that women do not go to college my silly friend.

My only comment on the subject is that if the fantasy that Firefly is trying to sell on the one in four rape numbers during the colleges years was true then no womans should be going to a co-ed college.
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Arella Mae
 
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Reply Sun 2 Jan, 2011 12:43 pm
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:

The FBI reported rapes is the only hard numbers we have my silly friend and as such are very useful indeed in tracking trends, as in that crime number is at a thirty-years low for rape.

Now if your Feminist’s programs are working as you claim they are you would expect that women would be reporting being rapes far more often then in the past when they are assaulted.

So Firefly reported rapes are going down because of the changes in the laws your group had engineer however the percents of woman reporting is not going up is that your claim?

Quote:
One in 6 U.S. women will be sexually assaulted in their lifetime.


And one in four women will be rape in a four year period during their college years!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Women do not go to college.

Back to the real world now.



Post: # 4,462,179BillRM
Arella Mae
 
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Reply Sun 2 Jan, 2011 12:45 pm
Let the little worm try to wiggle out of that one.
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firefly
 
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Reply Sun 2 Jan, 2011 01:01 pm
@Arella Mae,
What Hawkeye is into is a delusional preoccupation with "rape feminists".

And it is delusional. He's yet to name any of these alleged "rape feminists" or to cite books, articles, speeches, etc. by any of them. They are apparently mythological. Laughing And he believes that they control vast amounts of money going to rape crisis centers--for which he cites no evidence. Laughing So, he's into conspiracy theories about these mythological beings. Laughing

And no one in this thread has voiced any feminist ideology, let alone anything like a "rape feminist" political agenda. But, in each of his posts he refers to "feminists" or "rape feminists" as though those views were being expressed by us, in this thread. He's even accused us of "pushing programs" or "agendas"--again without a single quote from us to back that up. He's having imaginary arguments, with phantoms/strawmen who aren't here, in this thread. And worse, he thinks he's winning this imaginary debate. Rolling Eyes This is all going on inside his head--he's absolutely nuts.

All we've said is that we want the current sexual assault/rape laws enforced.
That's not a particularly "feminist" view, and it's definitely not a "program" or an "agenda". Laughing

Hawkeye thinks his opinions are "unpopular". That's not his main problem, or the only reason people discount what he says. The man is divorced from reality--including the reality of what's been said in this thread by us. He distorts everything we've said to fit into his delusions about the "rape feminists"--that's a serious sign of mental illness--he's so obsessed he has to distort reality to have some internal sense of validation for his paranoid ideas. He can't even correctly comprehend what others actually say in this thread.

He's not some kind of freedom fighter for sexual liberation, he's a plain, garden variety whacko.

HAWKEYE PREPARING HIS NEXT RANT ABOUT THE RAPE FEMINISTS
http://www.meh.ro/original/2010_04/meh.ro4029.png

Arella Mae
 
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Reply Sun 2 Jan, 2011 01:09 pm
@firefly,
Could not agree with you more! Afterall, no woman goes to self-defense classes to protect themselves from rapists! That is as stupid as Bill's refuting statement WOMEN DO NOT GO TO COLLECGE concerning your 1 in 4 rapes in college.

I think when God was passing out brains they thought he said trains and didn't want one. Now, I think one of them is the engineer on a tonka train. I don't take a single thing seriously they post. Bad thing about obsessions-you usually end up all alone with it because it is so ridiculous and out there people end up only finding it absurd.
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