Hey, Can A Woman "Ask To Get Raped"?

So what! So what if girls start off at 14 points?

Couldn't there be places on the PAT where boys regularly score higher than girls score--possibly by as much as, say ... 14 points? I

Didnt the libby lobby want equality

1 December 2010
New sex offence laws now in force in Scotland

New laws on sexual offences, which include for the first time a legal definition of consent, have come into force in Scotland.

The Sexual Offences (Scotland) Act defines consent and allows one party to withdraw it at any stage, whether they initially gave consent or not.

The act also gives a legal recognition of male rape.

Rape Crisis Scotland welcomed the changes and said more had to be done to improve rape conviction rates.

Crown Office figures indicated that 35% of rape cases brought to court resulted in a rape conviction in 2007-08.

But statistics obtained by Rape Crisis Scotland also showed that of the 821 cases recorded by police in 2008-09, just 25 resulted in a conviction in the courts, with only 83 suspects facing court proceedings.

These figures include cases where more than one complaint was made, or where a charge of rape was reduced to a more minor offence.

The new law on sexual offences includes for the first time a legal definition of rape, and recognises men as well as women can be victims.
It also lays out what is meant by consent to sexual intercourse; what it calls "free agreement."

It says if a person is incapable through alcohol or drugs, or is asleep or unconscious, they can not be said to have given their free agreement.

The act also introduces onto the statute book offences such as voyeurism and flashing.

Like rape itself, these have previously been prosecuted under Common Law, which is uncodified and therefore less specific.

For instance, peeping Tom activity - voyeurism - could have been prosecuted under breach of the peace.
But there have been challenges to that law as it is seen as a catch-all legal provision.

Other offences outlined in the act include the sending of indecent images by computer or text for the sexual gratification of the sender, and sexual coercion - forcing someone into sexual activity or making them be present when sexual activity was taking place.

The police chiefs' organisation Acpos said the implementation of the new laws would increase the number of reported rapes.

A raft of new crimes have now been enacted by the act, including coercing others to engage in any form of sexual activity without their consent, forcing someone to view pornography, to have sex while someone else is watching or sending sexually explicit e-mails or texts.

The law also includes "protective measures" to safeguard those with limited or no capacity to consent due to their young age or a mental disorder.

And sexual exposure - commonly known as "flashing" - is also now legally prohibited by statute.

The new powers will also clamp down on "sex tourism" by enabling the prosecution of any Scot who procures sex with a minor abroad, and also allows law enforcement agencies to pursue Scots who commit a sex crime - as defined under Scots law - on anyone under 18 anywhere in the world, regardless of the law in that country.

Justice Secretary Kenny MacAskill said: "Sexual offences are among the most appalling imaginable, particularly when the victims are among the more vulnerable members of our communities.

"Until now, sexual offences law has been a complex mix of common law and statute. This act therefore improves public safety and helps the victims of sexual crimes by bringing clarity and increased certainty to prosecutions."

Assistant Chief Constable Iain Livingstone, from the Association of Chief Police Officers in Scotland, said: "Widening the definition of rape to be non-gender specific and include activity previously reported as other types of sexual crime is welcomed.

"However, with this should come acknowledgement that a broader definition will result in an increase in police recorded figures for rape."

Sandy Brindley, national co-ordinator for Rape Crisis Scotland, has welcomed the changes, particularly clarification of what is meant by consensual sex.

"Another really important area the law looks at in terms of consent is whether someone is too drunk to consent to sex," she said.

"I think this is where the law has a really important educational function."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-11885686

1st December
Fife police welcome changes to rape laws

FIFE police have welcomed changes to the laws that cover sexual offences and the closure of a “loophole” which allowed the accused to question rape victims’ behaviour.

A new Sexual Offences (Scotland) Act 2009 became law yesterday (Wednesday) and a campaign, titled ‘Drinking is not a crime – rape is’, was launched in Fife to highlight the changes.

The act will replace the common law offence of rape with a statutory offence that is broader in terms of sexual activities and includes, for the first time, male rape.

DCI Lee Dickson said, “This is a significant piece of legislation that seeks to address a range of offending behaviour in one clear act and address the law in relation to reflecting modern lifestyles.

“Most importantly it looks to help fill the loophole often exploited by offenders by questioning the behaviour of the victim and cynically relying on an argument of consent to what has taken place.

“I cannot think of other crimes where the character of the victim has so often been questioned in order to provide the accused with an excuse.

“This helps to place the blame squarely where it belongs, on the shoulders of the guilty.”

Rape will continue to be investigated by senior detectives along with support from specialist trained liaison officers but the way in which sexual offences are defined and categorised is changing and how they are dealt with subsequently through the justice process.

Police said a difference in categorising and recording means there was an expectation that the reporting of rape would increase.

The campaign’s message is: no matter how much she’s drunk, no matter what she is wearing, no matter if you have already kissed – sex without consent is rape.

Jan Swan, manager of the Fife Rape and Sexual Assault Centre, said, “We are delighted to be working with Fife Constabulary on this campaign.

"It is really important that we challenge attitudes and make it very clear to men that no matter what a woman is wearing, if she was out with him socially, or has had a drink – sex without consent is rape.

“It is about time we stopped blaming the victim and put the blame squarely on the shoulders of the offender, the rapist.
http://www.dunfermlinepress.com/news/roundup/articles/2010/12/01/407730-fife-police-welcome-changes-to-rape-laws/

allows one party to withdraw it at any stage, whether they initially gave consent or not.

The act also gives a legal recognition of male rape It says if a person is incapable through alcohol or drugs, or is asleep or unconscious, they can not be said to have given their free agreement.

It says if a person is incapable through alcohol or drugs, or is asleep or unconscious, they can not be said to have given their free agreement. It says if a person is incapable through alcohol or drugs, or is asleep or unconscious, they can not be said to have given their free agreement.

forcing someone to view pornography, to have sex while someone else is watching or .

sending sexually explicit e-mails or texts

as defined under Scots law - on anyone under 18 anywhere in the world, regardless of the law in that country.

However, with this should come acknowledgement that a broader definition will result in an increase in police recorded figures for rape."

To repeat the message...because it bears repeating...
"It is really important that we challenge attitudes and make it very clear to men that no matter what a woman is wearing, if she was out with him socially, or has had a drink – sex without consent is rape.

“It is about time we stopped blaming the victim and put the blame squarely on the shoulders of the offender, the rapist.

as I said, at some point it probably did turn into rape even if it did not start out as such.

Is there a difference?

The risk and burden of sex is only with the male never never the female

Ya, the rapist is even with new definition rape responsible for the last push, and we should hold him responsible for that, but there was a whole chain of events before

When it all comes down to responsibility who is responsible when a murder is committed? Answer: The one that commited it. Who is responsible for the bank being robbed? Answer: The bank robber. So, who is responsible for the rape? Answer: THE RAPIST!

What occured before does not matter

If a man doesn't have enough self-control that he just can't pass up raping an unconscious woman, HE'S NO MAN! HE'S A COWARD!

Quote:

If a man doesn't have enough self-control that he just can't pass up raping an unconscious woman, HE'S NO MAN! HE'S A COWARD!

Show me one posting by anyone who claimed that it is not rape to have sex with an unconscious female?

Just one little posting of the thousands on this thread.

You are becoming or are as dishonest as Firefly and that is very dishonest indeed.

UNDER THE LAW, that is no different than her being unconscious. If you can't control YOURSELF it's YOUR problem, not the woman's.