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Hey, Can A Woman "Ask To Get Raped"?

 
 
BillRM
 
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Reply Wed 1 Dec, 2010 06:53 am
@firefly,
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This seems to be a rather typical domestic partner rape--hopefully it will be the last abuse this woman will have to suffer at the hands of this man. Spousal and domestic partner rape is a very real problem, and this man admitted that the sex was not consensual.


What to bet that the victim will do her very best to drop the charges shortly? There is a at least a fifty fifty chance that she is already regretting getting the law involve in this matter. That she will end up being the one trying to raise the bail for him?

Just as when the first man was charge with raping his wife and the state went after him at great cost only for the jury to not only find him not guilty but the couple then got back together.

The law at least as it now exist tend to be a very bad tool in dealing with such happenings inside long term relationships.

BillRM
 
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Reply Wed 1 Dec, 2010 07:20 am
@firefly,
You know this is the one crime along with domestic violence where the victim is the one most likely to be the one who post the bond.

This is sadly so common there had been talk of not allowing the woman to be the one who post the bond in such cases.
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firefly
 
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Reply Wed 1 Dec, 2010 07:35 am
@BillRM,
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What to bet that the vicitim will do her very best to drop the charges shortly?

That's what rapists hope for, isn't it?

Except he admitted he raped her--and he injured her--so it is not likely the charges will be dropped, even if she chooses not to cooperate. Domestic abuse cases can be handled differently because it is understood that the woman may fear her abuser or have ambivalent feelings about him--but that does not give her domestic partner license to violate laws.

This man also has a previous conviction for assault and he is in a home with 3 young children to whom he might pose a danger.

Hopefully this woman will receive support from a victim advocate, or a group, which will help her deal with the rape and physical assault and will assist her with whatever occurs in the legal process.
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HOW COMMON IS PARTNER RAPE?

•In 2006 the Australian Bureau published the results of the Personal Safety Survey. According to the Survey, an estimated 27,400 women in Australia have experienced sexual assault by their current partner, and 272,300 by a previous partner. According to the Australian Centre for the Study of Sexual Assault (ACCSA) these figures are likely to be underestimates (http://www.abs.gov.au/AUSSTATS/[email protected]/PrimaryMainFeatures/4906.0?OpenDocument)

•In 1975, the results of an American study on many rape situations were published. Diana Russell was so appalled by her findings on rape in marriage that she decided to conduct a research project on this area alone. From the 930 interviews conducted with women from a cross section of race and class, Russell concluded that rape in marriage was the most common yet most neglected area of sexual violence (Russell, Diana E.H. 'Rape in Marriage' MacMillan Publishing Company, USA 1990)

•In 1994, Patricia Easteal, then Senior Criminologist at the Australian Institute of Criminology, published the results of survey on sexual assault in many settings. The respondents were survivors of numerous forms of sexual assault. Of these, 10.4% had been raped by husbands or de-factos, with a further 2.3 per cent raped by estranged husbands/defactos. 5.5 percent were raped by non-cohabiting boyfriends (Easteal, P. "Voices of the Survivors", Spinifex Press, North Melbourne, 1994.)

•David Finkelhor & Kersti Yllo's famous 1985 study estimated that 10 to 14 per cent of all married women have been or will be raped by their spouses .(Finkelhor, D. and Yllo, K., "License to Rape", The Free Press, New York 1985)

•In the UK, statistics disseminated by the Rape Crisis Federation yield the information that the most common rapists are current and ex-husbands or partners. (Myhill & Allen, Rape and Sexual Assault of Women: Findings from the British Crime Survey)

•Figures on teenage girls in danger from boyfriends caused shock in research communities in the 1980's. Teen Dating violence, which often involves rape and sexual assault, continues to be on the rise. Approximately one in ten high school students experiences dating violence - that figure is 22% in college students (Wilson, K.J., When Violence Begins at Home: A Comprehensive Guide to Understanding and Ending Domestic Abuse, Hunter House Inc .Publishers, California, 1997)

•Other figures estimate that one in seven women is raped by a sexual intimate.

TYPES OF PARTNER RAPE

It's a common misconception that rape - particularly partner rape - is about sex, rather than an act of power, control and violence. Here are common types of partner rape (note: They are NOT excuses for abuser behaviour, and just because an abuser is motivated by, say, power one time doesn't mean he always is...):

•Power Rape: This happens to "show her who's boss." Batterers often want sex after beating their partners, and it's a means of forcing the woman to forget the fight and make up. It may happen because she said no to sex, or because she wants to leave. It may not be physically violent, but can involve sufficient force to get what he wants. Power rape occurs also when a woman is bullied or intimidated into giving in "to keep the peace."

•Anger Rape: Anger rape is often very violent and is carried out in retaliation when a man perceives his partner "deserves" it - perhaps by calling his masculinity into question. It might be a response to her leaving, "flirting", showing him up in front of others.

•Sadistic Rape: Where an anger rapist hurts the woman to punish her, in sadistic rape the abuser gets off on causing the pain, fear and humiliation. Cutting, biting, burning, urinating upon the victim or other painful and humiliating treatment characterizes sadistic rape.

•Obsessive Rape: If you experienced sexual assault from a partner who was obsessed with pornography or forced you into repeated sex-acts that were bizarre or fetishistic in nature, this is characteristic of obsessive rape. It may also be repeated and constant acts of anal or oral rape - something the abuser is fixated with doing.
(Sources: Finkelhor, D. and Yllo, K., License to Rape, The Free Press, New York, 1985; Russell, Diana E.H. Rape in Marriage MacMillan Publishing Company, USA 1990; Easteal, P. and McOrmond-Plummer, L, Real Rape Real Pain: Help for Women Sexually Assaulted by Male Partners, Hybrid Publishers, Melbourne, 2006)
http://www.pandys.org/articles/partnerrapeoverview.html


BillRM
 
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Reply Wed 1 Dec, 2010 07:55 am
@firefly,
My comment is that she is very likely to be doing her very best to have the charges drops not that the state will allow her to do so.

That she is likely to be the one spending family resources on his defend and that once tempers cools she will not be as eager as you are for the man to be spending a long time in prison.

Oh, women support groups are not going to be replacing what is likely to be the primary breadwinner of the household income.

Hawkeye is right counseling seem likely to be a far more useful path to follow then criminal prosecution in many such cases for all concern leaving the threat of prosecution as a tool in the counseling.


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BillRM
 
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Reply Wed 1 Dec, 2010 08:14 am
@firefly,
One other comment every time you look at surveys by the feminist movement you find that they are bullshit with special note of the 1 in four rapes claims in colleges so I see little likelihood that your rape in married surveys are not more of the same.
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firefly
 
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Reply Wed 1 Dec, 2010 09:57 am
This former student has lodged a civil suit against the University Of Mary Washington, claiming that negligent campus security helped to facilitate her rape. The first article is the news account of her rape.
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UMW student hurt in sex assault
Student attacked at UMW parking deck
BY ELLEN BILTZ
10/4/2008

Police and University of Mary Washington officials are hoping a $10,000 reward will lead to the man they say violently sexually assaulted a UMW student early yesterday in the campus parking garage.

The woman was walking from her car on the third floor of the four-story parking deck when she was assaulted about 2 a.m., UMW spokeswoman Teresa Mannix said.

The student is a sophomore who lives on campus, Mannix said.

She said the woman's injuries were unknown as of yesterday, but she was admitted to Mary Washington Hospital after the assault. She was released from the hospital late yesterday afternoon.

The attacker, who did not have a weapon, is described as a 20- to 24-year-old white man with light-colored hair, green eyes and a soft, high-pitched voice. He is about 5 feet, 5 inches tall and had a tribal tattoo on his left arm. He was wearing a green T-shirt and jeans.

Mannix said the reward is from an anonymous donor and it will go to someone providing information that leads to the arrest and conviction of the suspect.

The victim did not know the attacker, Mannix said.

After the woman was attacked, she drove to Stafford County, where she called the Sheriff's Office, Mannix said.

The responding deputy called Fredericksburg police, and an investigator met the victim at the hospital. There, the investigator found out the attack had occurred on campus and called UMW police.

Mannix said the confusion of jurisdiction caused the delay in alerting students of the attack. An e-mail was sent to students about 4:30 a.m. yesterday.

Mannix said nothing about yesterday's attack indicated that the suspect was the man who attacked a runner on the path around the UMW track on Hanover Street earlier this year.

"We don't have anything that could link the two," Mannix said.

The man in the earlier incident was described as a much larger person with dark hair.

Mannix said that as a result of the recent attack, the university plans to have a security guard monitor the parking deck from 7 p.m. to 7 a.m. daily.

There had been no security designated strictly to the garage, and there are no security cameras there, she said.
http://fredericksburg.com/News/FLS/2008/102008/10042008/415521


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RAPE VICTIM SUES UMW
A $10 million lawsuit accuses the University of Mary Washington of negligence in the case of a rape at the school's parking garage
BY JEFF BRANSCOME
12/1/2010

A $10 million lawsuit filed yesterday against the University of Mary Washington says poor security resulted in a student's rape at the school's parking garage.

The student, who was attacked early on Oct. 3, 2008, is suing the university for negligence.

The attacker entered the parking deck without being stopped, videotaped or photographed, the lawsuit states. He was able to flee as a result of the "open, unattended and improperly secured entrance to the UMW parking deck."

"Each and every action taken by [the student's] attacker was reasonably foreseeable by UMW," the suit states. The complaint says a student is more likely to be a crime victim on a college campus than nearly anywhere else.

Local attorney Lewis Lowery filed the lawsuit in Fredericksburg Circuit Court. It names the commonwealth of Virginia as the defendant because UMW is a state agency.

UMW President Rick Hurley declined to comment yesterday. Efforts to reach the university's representative in the state attorney general's office for comment were unsuccessful.

The plaintiff was a sophomore at the time of the rape. She was walking from her car on the third floor of the four-story parking deck when she was assaulted about 2 a.m., a UMW spokeswoman said at the time. The parking deck is off U.S. 1 next to the Fredericksburg campus's intramural field.

The lawsuit says the victim was heading to her dorm room in Virginia Hall.

The Free Lance-Star isn't naming the student--who has since left the university--because it is the newspaper's policy not to identify rape victims.

The attacker has not been arrested.

The lawsuit's allegations against UMW include:

Negligent security measures.

Failure to properly monitor the parking deck, which the complaint says UMW officials should have known to be dangerous.

Failure to warn students of dangers in the parking deck.

Failure to install and operate security cameras.

Failure to train security guards, campus police officers and others on how to report, investigate and prevent sexual assaults.

Failure to properly investigate complaints of rape and provide adequate security.

The suit says UMW creates "an illusion of campus security." The school's literature and other advertising material "emphasize safety and note the presence of campus police."

The university assumed responsibilities for the victim's safety because she was a full-time student who lived on campus, according to the lawsuit.


After she was raped, university officials said they planned to have a security guard monitor the parking deck from 7 p.m. until 7 a.m. daily.

There had been no security designated strictly to the garage, and there were no security cameras at the time of the rape. The university installed security cameras in the parking deck after the incident...

The suit goes on to state that UMW's negligence resulted in the plaintiff's injuries, severe emotional distress, humiliation, loss of the enjoyment of life, loss of earnings and more.
http://fredericksburg.com/News/FLS/2010/122010/12012010/591443


Civil suits like this one can help to improve security and the investigation of sexual assaults on other campuses as well, because it sends a message to college administrators everywhere.


BillRM
 
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Reply Wed 1 Dec, 2010 10:17 am
@firefly,
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A $10 million lawsuit filed yesterday against the University of Mary Washington says poor security resulted in a student's rape at the school's parking garage.

The student, who was attacked early on Oct. 3, 2008, is suing the university for negligence.

The attacker entered the parking deck without being stopped, videotaped or photographed, the lawsuit states. He was able to flee as a result of the "open, unattended and improperly secured entrance to the UMW parking deck."


A ten millions dollars lawsuit?

Knowing human nature both male and female if the courts start granting such settlements because of poor security involving sexual assaults cases we are going to be very shortly ass deep in stage attacks.

South Florida is the home of fake car accidents because our cars insurance laws lend themselves to such endeavors.
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firefly
 
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Reply Wed 1 Dec, 2010 10:20 am
Recently I have posted current news articles about women who were raped in nursing homes, psychiatric hospitals, high school bathrooms, and one woman who was raped while cross country skiing with her two children in a public park--not places one generally expects to be sexually assaulted.
Now, this man has been arrested for raping a heavily medicated patient in her hospital bed. He was also a patient at the same hospital. Naturally, he claims the sex was "consensual" Rolling Eyes Obviously, a sleeping, heavily medicated woman did not consent, she was simply available and vulnerable.
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Police: Man raped patient at hospital
By: Lance Barry
December 1, 2010

CINCINNATI - A man was arrested Tuesday night after he allegedly raped a heavily medicated patient at University Hospital over the weekend.

Police say 30-year-old Tishawn Walker of North College Hill was a patient at University Hospital on the same floor as the victim. Police say Walker got into the victim's hospital room on Nov. 27 while the victim was asleep due to being heavily medicated. Walker then climbed into the victim's bed and raped her, according to court records.

Walker allegedly admitted to the rape to authorities after his arrest, but claimed that the incident was consensual at his arraignment Wednesday morning.

9 News has called University Hospital, but they have yet to make a comment on the incident.

Walker remains behind bars at the Hamilton County Justice Center after being issued a $25,000 bond.
http://www.kypost.com/dpps/news/tri-state_news/police%3A-man-raped-patient-at-hospital_5588228


BillRM
 
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Reply Wed 1 Dec, 2010 10:30 am
@firefly,
Sound like this lady will end up being a millionaire over this also.
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Arella Mae
 
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Reply Wed 1 Dec, 2010 01:15 pm
@firefly,
Ouachita Parish is just down the road from me. It's even more scary when these things happen so close to home.
BillRM
 
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Reply Wed 1 Dec, 2010 02:48 pm
@firefly,
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Civil suits like this one can help to improve security and the investigation of sexual assaults on other campuses as well, because it sends a message to college administrators everywhere.


It sure sends a message that that the insurance rate will be going up along with the added cost of security so to balance the budget guess where they will find the funding Firefly?

I wonder how many males and females students will be price out of an education because of such lawsuits.

The sad part is that no matter how many millions you spend on security there will always be loopholes that the bad people of the world will find and that the lawyers will then sue over once more driving up costs and pricing more students out of an education.

Even at a high price college you could put a hundred or so students through a complete four program for ten million dollars.

In any case the real world Firefly is not as simple as the one you so cheerfully live in.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Wed 1 Dec, 2010 03:06 pm
@BillRM,
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It sure sends a message that that the insurance rate will be going up along with the added cost of security so to balance the budget guess where they will find the funding Firefly?

You are jumping the gun here Bill....I am not aware that the law supports the claim made, because garage owners need to take reasonable measures to render their facilities safe they do not need to go to extremes nor do they ever guaranty safety. My guess is that plaintiff hopes the university will roll over for a settlement, because they will be threatened with a PR campaign charging them with being in league with rapists if they do not, but hopefully the University legal team will convince the leadership that rolling over here invites a massive wave of litigation and thus can not be tolerated.
BillRM
 
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Reply Wed 1 Dec, 2010 03:20 pm
@hawkeye10,
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You are jumping the gun here Bill....I am not aware that the law supports the claim made, because garage owners need to take reasonable measures to render their facilities safe they do not need to go to extremes nor do they ever guaranty safety. My guess is that plaintiff hopes the university will roll over for a settlement, because they will be threatened with being charged with being in league with rapists if they do not, but hopefully the University legal team will convince the leadership that rolling over here invites a massive wave of litigation and thus can not be tolerated.


I think I had stated if the courts start to award such damages this or that will occur.

In this one case I am fairly sure they will settle for less money then ten millions but they will very likely settle for an amount in the plus million range where the cost of their insurance policy will go up.

Second, it is likely that their insurance carrier will pressure them to do so as insurance companies do not normally care to risk a run away judgment and a few millions they can made up for in a few year by adding to the cost of the insurance.





hawkeye10
 
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Reply Wed 1 Dec, 2010 03:22 pm
@BillRM,
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In this one case I am fairly sure they will settle for less money then ten millions but they will very likely settle for an amount where the cost of their insurance policy will go up.

Well ya, that is the game plan of plaintiff for sure. The university should play hardball, and offer nothing.
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Wed 1 Dec, 2010 03:25 pm
@BillRM,
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Second, it is likely that their insurance carrier will pressure them to do so as insurance companies do not normally care to risk a run away judgment and a few millions they can made up in a few year by adding to the cost of the insurance
these are the same insurance companies that look the other way on fraud because it is not their money (they just raise the rates, they get their take no matter what) so why bother...dont get me started on insurance companies..they SUCK!
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firefly
 
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Reply Wed 1 Dec, 2010 07:47 pm
A very drunk woman, a heavily medicated sleeping woman in a hospital bed, an 89 year old nursing home resident--all extremely vulnerable targets for a rapist. How more vulnerable a victim can you find than a 4 year old? I hope the police find this pervert--soon.
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Man charged in rape of 4-year-old in St. Paul
By Emily Gurnon
11/30/2010

A Columbia Heights man who was babysitting a neighbor's children has been charged with raping a 4-year-old girl.

Fahid Nazir, 29, faces a charge of first-degree criminal sexual conduct in the Sept. 14 incident.

Based on a criminal complaint filed Monday and made public this morning in Ramsey County District Court, the child's mother notified police after the girl returned to her own apartment, where the mother had been making lunch.

The complaint gives the following additional details:

The girl said that Nazir brought her to the bedroom and had her lie on the bed. She said he "poked" her with his "elephant tail," and "made (her) wet."

When the mother attempted to check the girl's vaginal area, she expressed pain.

The mother told police that she and Nazir's girlfriend often took turns babysitting each other's children; they lived on the same floor in the same apartment building in the 200 block of Wilkin Street in St. Paul.

That day, the girlfriend said she had to go out for a while but told the other mother that Nazir would watch the kids.

The victim was taken to the Midwest Children's Resource Center in St. Paul for a sexual assault examination. The girl gave medical personnel there a similar account, saying that the neighbor man had put his tail on her private parts.

Swabs were taken to collect evidence.

When police went to Nazir's Columbia Heights home, he refused to talk. With a search warrant, police collected a cheek sample of DNA.

An Oct. 1 report from the state Bureau of Criminal Apprehension noted that semen was identified on swabs from the girl. They matched the DNA profile obtained from Nazir, the complaint said.

As of noon today, Nazir was not in custody. There is a warrant out for his arrest.
http://www.twincities.com/ci_16742720?source=most_viewed

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firefly
 
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Reply Wed 1 Dec, 2010 07:55 pm
DNA helps to solve another "cold case" rape after 14 years. This rapist won't ever walk out of jail.
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Convicted bank robber accused in 1996 Mo. rape
Associated Press
December 1, 2010
KANSAS CITY, Mo.

A man imprisoned in Indiana for bank robbery faces new charges after DNA linked him to the 1996 rape of a 15-year-old girl in Missouri.

The Kansas City Star reported that 48-year-old John L. Williams is accused of offering the girl a ride and then raping and sodomizing her at gunpoint in his vehicle.

Jackson County court records in the case were released Tuesday. Williams has been charged with forcible rape, forcible sodomy, statutory rape and statutory sodomy.

Williams is in a federal prison in Terre Haute, Ind., serving a 65-year sentence for his role in three bank robberies in 2007. The Federal Bureau of Prisons calculates his earliest release date as Nov. 25, 2063.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-ap-mo-bankrobber-rape,0,1866184.story

Ionus
 
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Reply Wed 1 Dec, 2010 07:58 pm
@Arella Mae,
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It's even more scary when these things happen so close to home.
OOhhhhhhh !!! Was it exciting for you too ??? Lets everyone imagine we are sexy enough for men to want to rape us !!! Oooohhhhh!!!! That felt good !
Ionus
 
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Reply Wed 1 Dec, 2010 08:09 pm
@firefly,
You asked for studies that showed far more men were raped then women. I provided.

You asked for references to studies where women have lied. I provided.

Do you see how man is the provider and women are the recipient ?

Then you just ignored the references like any good little dictator would ignore any caontrary facts and went on your way searching and posting more juicy stories about women being raped. Why wont you respond to the number of men being raped in prison being far greater in number then the number of women outside ? That these men are then released and are far more likely to rape women ? Because you dont care. You are off getting a sicko thrill by reading about rape.

Why wont you respond to the very large number of women who lied about being raped ? You dont care about rape victims. You care about women because any benefit to them will accrue to you. So deep down you dont care about women anyway. You are doing this out of sickness.



On your side you have women who have the logic capability of a dead ant and the emotional content of someone suiciding. You also have men who hear the magic words " women need protection" and without a moments thought they are instinctually driven to step forward and help.

Your side of this debate is pathetic and emotional. Man up and think logically.
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Ionus
 
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Reply Wed 1 Dec, 2010 08:11 pm
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In a study that span nine years, sociologist Eugene J. Kanin’s findings were that in the United States, 41% of rape allegations are false. Kanin discovered that most of the false accusers were motivated by a need for an alibi or seeking revenge. Kanin was once popular and highly praised by the feminist movement for his groundbreaking research on male sexual aggression. His studies on false rape accusations have received very little interest.


These findings are not exceptional. The U.S. Air Force studied over five hundred rape accusations in 1985. More than 130 of the accusers admitted, either just before they took a lie detector test or after they had failed it, that no rape occurred. A more in depth investigation by independent reviewers established that 60% of the original rape allegations were a sham.

Linda Fairstein is the head of the New York County District Attorney's Sex Crimes Unit. She states there are a concerning 4,000 reports of rape each year in Manhattan. Of these, about 2,000 did not happen.



Read more at Suite101: False Allegations: Wrongful Accusations of Rape http://www.suite101.com/content/false-allegations-a21219#ixzz16usL84di
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