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Hey, Can A Woman "Ask To Get Raped"?

 
 
Ionus
 
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Reply Mon 22 Nov, 2010 08:08 pm
@firefly,
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If you don't want to make sure you have your partner's consent for any sexual activity
Have you been following this thread ? The consent can be withdrawn. A legal document is required. No signee, no cockee......sorry bitch.

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If you want total sexual freedom, without having to bother with "consent" from a partner, stick to masturbation.
Now we come to the ultimate aim of all true libbies and lesbians.....de-sexing men.
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Ionus
 
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Reply Mon 22 Nov, 2010 08:09 pm
@firefly,
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You're the one who has difficulty understanding and accepting the need for consent. I have no problem understanding it, or accepting it.
Have you ever said no to more power ?
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Mon 22 Nov, 2010 08:10 pm
@Ionus,
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I would have added they are biased against men and driven by a feminist agenda.
True, but Americans have decided that victimized classes are entitled to special help. The problem of course is that once these groups are no longer rationally entitled to any special help they still refuse to let the assistance go, even when it is in their best interests to do so. The programs that are in place to advantage blacks for instance rightfully should have been ended 20 years ago, as all they do now is to cater to blacks victimization delusion and keep them from being productive members of the collective. The special programs that are in place now to advantage women (such as biased sex law) should be ended now, as women have at least caught up to men and in most areas if anyone should get a special advantage based upon current reality it would be the men.
firefly
 
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Reply Mon 22 Nov, 2010 08:14 pm
@hawkeye10,
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The special programs that are in place now to advantage women (such as biased sex law)


Rape/sexual assault laws protect both male and female victims of rape/sexual assault.
Ionus
 
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Reply Mon 22 Nov, 2010 08:17 pm
@firefly,
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Rape laws protect both male and female victims of rape.
How are men in prison, being the largest number of rapes and not women, protected by these laws ? They are nothing but a political backscratch for the libbies.

Can you imagine an economy where buyers could change their minds after 3 months and have the seller in court because of buyers remorse ? So why have social laws that do the same thing ?
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Mon 22 Nov, 2010 08:22 pm
@firefly,
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Rape/sexual assault laws protect both male and female victims of rape/sexual assault.
What BS...the one with the pole must prove that he is innocent, all the one with the hole needs to do is make the claim, which no one can dispute because no one can crawl into her head (though we could use a polygraph but of course the rape feminists are violently opposed to using this tool), that she did not want it. There is no equality anywhere near the scene of the crime.
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firefly
 
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Reply Mon 22 Nov, 2010 08:23 pm
Well, this man just got life in prison for ignoring "consent". Date rapists are sexual predators.

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Marchet sentenced in fourth sexual assault case
By jason bergreen
The Salt Lake Tribune

Nov 5, 2010

A serial date rapist, already convicted of raping three women, was sentenced Friday in a fourth case to up to life in prison.

The victim and other young women in the courtroom who had been previously assaulted by Azlen Marchet exchanged smiles and whispered, “yes,” when the ruling was announced.

Third District Judge Vernice Trease sentenced Marchet, 32, to 15 years to life in prison on each of two first-degree-felony sexual assault charges. The sentences will run consecutively.

Marchet was found guilty in September of sexually assaulting the woman in this case outside a Salt Lake City nightclub in June 2003.

The victim told Trease that on the day of the assault “my world turned gray.” She said she has suffered anxiety, anger and depression and was diagnosed with post traumatic stress disorder because of the assault. She asked that Marchet receive the maximum sentence allowed.

“I do not believe he will ever be rehabilitated,” the woman said.

Five other women who had been sexually assaulted by Marchet or had accused him of attacking them also made brief statements, asking for a sentence of 15 years to life.

Marchet, when it was his turn to speak, insisted the women consented to having sex with him, as he has done in previous cases.

He did not apologize for his actions against the women and called them “queens of comedy,” after they made their comments.

“Give yourselves a round of applause for such poignant and captivating speeches,” he told them.

Trease warned Marchet several times to address the court, not the women. Marchet called the sentence unfair.

“Every time we come to court the stories change, just like the weather,” Marchet said.

Two of Marchet’s prior convictions were “date rapes,” where he attacked women after inviting them back to his apartment.

A third conviction involved what prosecutors referred to as a “club rape.” In that case, Marchet attacked a woman in the parking lot of a Salt Lake County nightclub in October 2003.

Trease cited several mitigating circumstances, including physical injury, severe emotional trauma, a pattern of “stalking type behavior and enticing type behavior,” and previous convictions as reason for handing down the stiff sentence.

“He has an absolute lack of remorse and lack of responsibility,” Trease said.
http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/home/50618243-76/marchet-case-women-assault.html.csp
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Mon 22 Nov, 2010 08:27 pm
@firefly,
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Well, this man just got life in prison for ignoring "consent". Date rapists are sexual predators.

Those who attempt to steal from the American people our individual right to freedom are traitors, the only crime for which I am in favor of the death penalty.
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Ionus
 
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Reply Mon 22 Nov, 2010 10:14 pm
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SEX with a woman who does not consent to it is not rape, according to nearly one in four men aged 18 to 25.

This is libbie science.....no statistics to see how many of those women who actually said no really meant no. No statistics on which men had met women for whom no meant yes. Just the bland assertion that all women are psychologically sound with a stock standard off the shelf sex drive, as issued by libbies to women untill they wise up and get a girl.
firefly
 
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Reply Mon 22 Nov, 2010 10:32 pm
http://www.ocsu.ca/images/NoMeansNo.png
firefly
 
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Reply Mon 22 Nov, 2010 10:34 pm
http://www.west-midlands.police.uk/images/crime-reduction/no-consent-no-sex.gif
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Mon 22 Nov, 2010 11:19 pm
@Ionus,
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This is libbie science.....no statistics to see how many of those women who actually said no really meant no. No statistics on which men had met women for whom no meant yes. Just the bland assertion that all women are psychologically sound with a stock standard off the shelf sex drive, as issued by libbies to women untill they wise up and get a girl.
Firefly brings with her a 6 year old understanding of the intricacies of intimate relationship between the sexes. It would be funny if it were not so sad that these very same idiots are writing our sex law.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Mon 22 Nov, 2010 11:46 pm
@hawkeye10,
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Firefly brings with her a 6 year old understanding of the intricacies of intimate relationship between the sexes. It would be funny if it were not so sad that these very same idiots are writing our sex law.
The two posts above mine remind me that in my quote the word "idiots" could be exchanged for the word "thugs" and be equally true.
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BillRM
 
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Reply Mon 22 Nov, 2010 11:58 pm
@hawkeye10,
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Firefly brings with her a 6 year old understanding of the intricacies of intimate relationship between the sexes. It would be funny if it were not so sad that these very same idiots are writing our sex law.


What is even more amusing to me is that when women are in fact safer then they had been for a generation and a half from sexual assaults is the same time that the Fireflies of the world are trying to convict us that a large majority of our young men are rapists or would be rapists and a large percents of our young women are victims.

The feminists it would seem are in fact the enemies of both men and women trying to falsely convict women that they need to live in fear of their father, brothers, sons and uncles let alone their male friends.

All this nonsense being founded on junk surveys that can not stand the light of day or the light of reason.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Tue 23 Nov, 2010 12:07 am
@BillRM,
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All this nonsense being founded on junk surveys that can not stand the light of day or the light of reason.
Of this Firefly is well aware, she knows when to keep quiet and launch diversionary tactics, when her opponents are getting near the flaws in her argument. This is why she refuses to get pinned down on the subject of consent and instead resorts to platitudes, and why she will not state what level of self induced impairment should grant the state the power to suspend our right to choose sexual intimacy.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Tue 23 Nov, 2010 12:29 am
@hawkeye10,
at other times, for instance when it is pointed out that current sex law is grossly biased in favor of the one who's holes are used in sex, her approach is to loudly and often deny the obvious. The rape feminists are a spoiled bunch, as this type of flim-flammery has often worked for them in the past, back when the opposition was neutralized with the laying of guilt trips. This does not work on me, I dont feel guilty for the victimization of women as I had nothing to do with it. If women think that they have a grievance still, after all the special help that they have gotten during my lifetime, they should feel free to take it up with my ancestors.
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firefly
 
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Reply Tue 23 Nov, 2010 12:30 am
@hawkeye10,
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This is why she refuses to get pinned down on the subject of consent


http://www.greaterorlandonow.org/RapeFlyer.jpg

If you, or anyone else, thinks this is "nonsense", go back and read that news article about the date rapist who just got sentenced to life in prison.
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Ionus
 
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Reply Tue 23 Nov, 2010 12:31 am
@firefly,
Yes, a splendid example of cut and paste but what are you doing to educate some women that no does not mean yes ? You are aware there are women out there who say no and mean yes......if you dont then why do you think you have any plausible authority to post on accusations of rape ?
Ionus
 
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Reply Tue 23 Nov, 2010 12:36 am
@firefly,
Look at the stupidity of what you have......a woman can say no and mean yes.....a woman can say no and mean no......a woman can say yes but later change her mind to no.....A woman can say yes and mean yes.

The only ones you have any idea of are half of the possibilities. You are mouthing off a black and white world when it is really grey.

I am sure you would not object to laws protecting men from women.....such as gaol terms for refusing sex to their husband.....or refusing sex unless he mows the lawn, or washes the car......or gaol terms for women who marry for money based on the opinion of the man.
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Tue 23 Nov, 2010 12:36 am
@Ionus,
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Yes, a splendid example of cut and paste but what are you doing to educate some women that no does not mean yes ? You are aware there are women out there who say no and mean yes......
She has been all over the place on consent...sometimes nonverbal consent is OK with her, sometimes not...sometimes consent must come before the act, sometimes she acts like she knows that humans dont work this way and says that guys just have to be right and trust that their woman will not **** them over after the fact by claiming that they did not want want happened, that it was all the guys fault. Sometimes she says that guys can proceed until we get a verbal "no". Sometimes she says that a nonverbal "no" should stop things.

She cant commit, and I know why....it is because her theory of consent is deeply flawed, it is not consistent with human behaviour. She is trying to remake humans to fit her theory of consent, and that my friends, is thoroughly fucked up.
 

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