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Hey, Can A Woman "Ask To Get Raped"?

 
 
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Mon 15 Nov, 2010 07:03 am
@Ionus,
Ionus wrote:
Makes it hard to help, doesnt it ? Sad.
She was in our circle of friends for several years; we all liked her,
tho we all knew that she was crazy and joked about it.

I told her repeatedly: D, I love u as a friend, we all do, but u r CRAZY.
U shoud find a psychiatrist that u like and get some professional help.

I knew she 'd not do it and she did not, but I tried to help.
Other than that, it was just a matter of cheering her up.

I tried to turn the subject of discussion away from her delusions,
but she insisted on bringing it back again.

I was always in an unpleasant triage of deciding what was plausible, what was ridiculous nonsense
(like Jimmy Carter calling her for approval of the Camp David Accords) and what was a mixture of the 2.





David
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NAACP
 
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Reply Mon 15 Nov, 2010 08:22 am
@aidan,
Well when I say 99.9% obviously I'm talking about the 99.9% of women I'VE come in contact with(that should go wihtout saying though as that's the only women I could possibly talk about) but yeah ask ANY guy, do sort of a survey if you will. Ask them if they think women are crazy, I gurantee you the results for yes will be at leat 90%.
NAACP
 
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Reply Mon 15 Nov, 2010 08:31 am
@aidan,
"No, I didn't miss that part, and that's why I can't understand why you worry so much about it."

He actually did say he hopes the american people are fed up with being fed fear.........and as far as him worrying about it, how could you NOT worry about something that could come between us and our relationships? What else do we really have outside of our relationships with one another? It's tragic if we as MORTAL beings let something so silly as sex get in the way of that. Sex is an activity, a release. Quite frankly it's being taking far too seriously as I believe we have too much time on our hands...

OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Mon 15 Nov, 2010 10:03 am
@NAACP,
NAACP wrote:
Well when I say 99.9% obviously I'm talking about the 99.9% of women I'VE come in contact with(that should go wihtout saying though as that's the only women I could possibly talk about) but yeah ask ANY guy, do sort of a survey if you will. Ask them if they think women are crazy, I gurantee you the results for yes will be at leat 90%.
WELCOME to the forum.
I've posted this b4, but u r new,
so u might not have seen it:
I have a friend who is a psychiatrist, of many years standing.
He once said to me: "David, anyone who u think is NOT crazy
is just someone who u don 't KNOW well enuf."





David
NAACP
 
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Reply Mon 15 Nov, 2010 10:37 am
@OmSigDAVID,
I can understand that as it sort of correlates with a thought I had before about people who think other people are stupid because THEY themselves are stupid. You're right, the only reason I would ever think another to be crazy/stupid or anything is because I myself cannot find a reason for what they are doing/saying. Obiously though that person has their own reasons because if they didn't they wouldn't have done/said what they did in the first place. Althought having said that, that doesn't make it any more pleasant having to "deal" with these people.
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firefly
 
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Reply Mon 15 Nov, 2010 11:22 am
@Ionus,
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In Australia the percentage of successful convictions for domestic violence is 99.7 %.


Australia is obviously doing something right.
BillRM
 
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Reply Mon 15 Nov, 2010 11:51 am
@firefly,
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Australia is obviously doing something right.


We all know you do not care Firefly but they are only doing something right as far as the rest of us are concern if the men are all guilty of this crime.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Mon 15 Nov, 2010 12:28 pm
@BillRM,
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We all know you do not care Firefly but they are only doing something right as far as the rest of us are concern if the men are all guilty of this crime
AND deserve the punishment that has been handed out. If both are not true then we know that injustice has taken place, which would mean that Australia has failed.
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Mon 15 Nov, 2010 12:40 pm
@NAACP,
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Quite frankly it's being taking far too seriously as I believe we have too much time on our hands...

America has become decadent, and we have lost the ability to either valuate or know the meaning of things. We are fat and lazy and headed south. Women feel entitled to be protected by the state from all risks, real or imagined, even when they themselves knowingly take those risks (for instance by getting drunk). And thus we trade our liberty for empty promises, we shackle ourselves as our jailer whispers sweet nothings into our ear about how everything will be all better now, because the chains and bars will protect us from all the evils that lie outside of the jail walls.
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Mon 15 Nov, 2010 12:44 pm
@hawkeye10,
hawkeye10 wrote:

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Quite frankly it's being taking far too seriously as I believe we have too much time on our hands...

America has become decedent, [??]
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Mon 15 Nov, 2010 12:48 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
thanks..
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firefly
 
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Reply Mon 15 Nov, 2010 01:34 pm
@aidan,
You said this to Hawkeye...
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Do you not think you yourself are a little paranoid in terms of the threat these 'rape feminists' really hold?


A little paranoid? That's an understatement. Hawkeye's obsession with "rape feminists" borders on the delusional. Haven't you noticed that he never identifies them by name? Who exactly are these people--don't any of them have names?

Hawkeye is always hysterical--he's the biggest drama queen at A2K.

He creates a bogus argument that there is some sort of conspiracy to brand all men as potential rapists. This phony ploy is designed to cast women as evil and man-hating and men as the innocent victims of their wraith. It is also designed to detract attention from the fact that some men do commit rape.

Hawkeye, for instance, has admitted to committing rape. But, since Hawkeye doesn't like the rape laws, he excuses his behavior as not being "real rape". Hawkeye makes up his own definitions of "rape" so they suit him and his own peculiar sexual appetites. Hawkeye tells us women enjoy being raped, it gets them in touch with their "erotic power". Hawkeye would give the average woman a lot of reason to distrust him--he thinks that the necessity for "consent" is a joke.

You don't have to defend yourself from his craziness that women think of men as potential rapists because it's an absurd notion. Why waste time trying to prove to him you don't think that way when there was no justification for his claim in the first place.

Women have to take reasonable precautions to protect themselves, and their children, from the possibility of harm, including the possibility of sexual assault. The reason they have to do that is because the possibility of threat exists. There are predators and rapists. They are by no means the majority of men, but they are out there. And, being mindful of that fact, helps women to be appropriately alert, and cautious, and self protective. And normal men not only understand that, they urge women to behave that way because they care about their welfare.

Sexual assault laws and rape laws exist for good reason. Most normal men don't worry about these laws, they have no reason to worry about them. Most normal men don't do anything to violate those laws. Most normal men respect women and have no desire to harm or hurt them. Most normal men want consenting sexual partners, they don't want to force, coerce, overpower, or pressure their partner into doing something that is unwanted. Most normal men have no problem finding consensual sex.

So one does have to wonder about the men who are hysterical about the currently existing rape laws. What are they so afraid of? If they only have consensual sex, they won't be violating any laws. It's like any other law. If you don't drive too fast, you don't get a speeding ticket. If you don't take someone's property without their consent, you don't get charged with stealing.

It would be nice for a change if these men were actually concerned about the crime of rape. It would be nice if they realized that men can do a lot to change attitudes that see females as "prey" or "a score" and that encourage men to express "masculinity" by sexual assault of vulnerable females. It would be nice if they saw females as sexual partners and not just sexual objects or the means to their own sexual satisfaction. It would be nice if they saw that their own demeaning attitudes toward women were part of the problem.

But men who basically dislike or distrust or feel hostility toward women are not likely to change their views. Fortunately, for women, most men do not feel that way. Most men love and appreciate women, just as we love and appreciate them. And just as we want them safe from harm, they want the same for us.







firefly
 
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Reply Mon 15 Nov, 2010 01:49 pm
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Judge takes back no-jail guilty plea, says child molest suspect Tony Simmons has shown no remorse
By Melissa Grace
Daily News Staff Writer
Monday, November 15th

Simmons has been charged with sexually abusing three teenage girls in his custody as a counselor for the NYC Department of Juvenile Justice.

Manhattan judge Cassandra Mullen voided a probation offer and Simmons will instead go to trial. The judge took back a no-jail deal, saying she'd slam a city worker with three years in prison if he sticks with his guilty plea to raping a 15-year-old girl and sexually abusing two others in his care.

Supreme Court Justice Cassandra Mullen said she could not go ahead with the promised sentence of probation she made in September because a Department of Probation report showed Tony Simmons showed no remorse - and even blamed his underage victims.

Calling Simmons' comments in the report "nothing short of appalling," Mullen said he "seems to suggest he did his \[rape\] victim a favor."

Of a 16-year-old girl he is accused of having oral sex with, Simmons said it was consensual and "it just happened" and that the girl was giving him "sexual looks."

The case drew public outrage and a Daily News editorial after prosecutors and the judge previously agreed to a sentence of 10 years probation in exchange for Simmons' plea to rape and other sexual counts for sexual conduct between 2005 and 2008.

Of a second 15-year-old Simmons admitted molesting, the judge said Simmons claimed, "they had a mutual sexual attraction."

The judge finished by calling Simmons "a danger to the community."

Simmons, 47, who is out on $100,000 bail turned down the new deal - for now. That means the case could be headed for trial. He's due back in court Dec. 15.

Simmons, a veteran employee of the city Juvenile Justice Department who worked with troubled teens, was fired after the guilty plea.

Simmons lawyer, Gregory Watford, called the new offer a "lose-lose" for his client because of the comments he made to probation will help prosecutors - and that he made them only after he'd been promised probation.

"The District Attorney gets a do over," Watford said.

The lawyer said his client is not charged with forcible rape or forcible sexual contact and that the comments reflect that. He said the charges are based on the girls' ages.

He said the comments to probation are not a denial of culpability.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_crime/2010/11/15/2010-11-15_judge_takes_back_nojail_guilty_plea_says_child_molest_suspect_tony_simmons_has_s.html
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Mon 15 Nov, 2010 01:51 pm
@firefly,
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And just as we want them safe from harm, they want the same for us.



there is no such thing is safety, and when we try too hard to make this fantasy reality we create injustice and other ailments of civilization.

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Sexual assault laws and rape laws exist for good reason. Most normal men don't worry about these laws, they have no reason to worry about them. Most normal men don't do anything to violate those laws
the current laws could be used to make most guys sex criminals, it is only the current interpretation of those laws that keep this from being so. Considering that criminalization of sex has rapidly expanded over the last few decades and the rape feminists are still running around claiming that there is a rape crisis I dont see much prospect for putting a halt to the increasing criminalization of sex until and unless we the people rebel, and demand reform.
NAACP
 
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Reply Mon 15 Nov, 2010 01:53 pm
I think what it ultimately boils down to is you have to live life, you really do only live once. Why try to control what you ultimately have NO control over whatsoever? You can't get inside other people's heads and try to control their actions. Now, you yourself can take precautions(if you want to live in fear)but other people are going to do what they're going to do. It's out of your control and you shouldn't want it to be in your control because that would take the life out of life. We're all just bouncing around here folks, live in fear if you like but you're just limiting yourself.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Mon 15 Nov, 2010 01:59 pm
@NAACP,
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Why try to control what you ultimately have NO control over whatsoever
Intimacy is a act where two people contribute energy but neither has full control over it. Firefly and her pals are demanding that we try anyways, even if the controls placed upon intimacy kill intimacy. They simply dont give a ****, they want no harm to ever come to any woman through sex, nothing else matters to them. And yet we take this idiocy seriously....why is that? Do we really not know any better?
NAACP
 
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Reply Mon 15 Nov, 2010 02:03 pm
@hawkeye10,
Right. Sex(I believe) should be a daily activity like shaking hands, its very healthy and is a stress reliever(something you females could REALLY use). Here's another thought - If sex weren't so pleasureable to begin with, would this be such a big deal? Same as drugs or anything else that brings you "dirty" pleasures, it seems to me likes there's always something "attached" to it. "Shame", it's ultimately foolish and self limiting. We are after all, mortals. We're just passing through here folks.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Mon 15 Nov, 2010 02:18 pm
@NAACP,
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Same as drugs or anything else that brings you "dirty" pleasures, it seems to me likes there's always something "attached" to it
I dont think I follow you here as I believe that sex can be the the highest level of expression and fulfillment of the soul....I want to protect the right to engage fully in the erotic BECAUSE so much is attached to it. I suspect that we both do agree that those like Firefly who want to render sex safe for even the stupid must be stopped. The reason I want to stop them is because if they get their way their immature conceptualization of sex will infect increasing numbers of people, and those who are this infected are doomed to never experience how enriching and fantastic sex can be.

I am fighting for liberty and justice, against the debasement of erotic expression and experience.
NAACP
 
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Reply Mon 15 Nov, 2010 02:41 pm
@hawkeye10,
No no, you misunderstand. I was merely saying that other people ideas of putting "shame" on sex and trying to make other people(usually those younger) think this way hinders their experience of it as they might be less likely to do it due to the invisible "shame".
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Mon 15 Nov, 2010 03:11 pm
@NAACP,
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I was merely saying that other people ideas of putting "shame" on sex
It is not shame that they are applying...it is fear.....fear within guys that their woman will turn on them and put them in jail, and fear with-in women that they now have the responsibility of deciding if their man goes to jail or not. At the end of the day the rape feminist sex law does not work for either men or for women, because neither get what they want.
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