Hey, Can A Woman "Ask To Get Raped"?

Your first assumption, that because a woman may indulge in fantasies of being raped, that she actually wishes to be raped, is completely absurd. You are obviously unfamiliar with the large body of research which has been done on that subject. There is no correlation between fantasies of being raped and a desire to be the actual victim of a rape.

A physical, emotional, and psychological violation is unlikely to leave anyone feeling good

No one tells a rape victim how they should feel about that experience.

No matter what a woman does, or how she acts, or how she dresses, or where she goes, justifies her being raped.

To blame the woman, is to excuse the rapist.

The only one who bears any responsibility for a rape is the person who commits the act.

what a woman does, or how she acts, or how she dresses, or where she goes,

Think about the meanings of..."swept off her feet"....."tall dark handsome stranger"....the fantasy is not about being bashed half unconscious and sodomised. It is about a man who takes away the feeling of guilt and who dominates the situation. Very liberating. The act of sex is somewhat muted.

It is about a man who takes away the feeling of guilt and who dominates the situation. Very liberating.
The act of sex is somewhat muted.

But the act of putting on a tie almost made me a rapist!

Women who fantasize about rape are not indicating a desire to actually be raped, and that is what the research on this subject indicates.

If she's been drinking, and you wouldn't give her the keys to your car and let her drive you home, because she seems too drunk, she's probably too drunk to give consent for sex.

But the act of putting on a tie almost made me a rapist!

Obviously you are the only man in the world with a sexy tie....or she enjoys being tied up with one.

Bullshit, they want to be manhandled in a way that you would call rape because there is no active consent, however they don't want to be hurt. The very act of active consent kills the submission to another persons will that they are after.

We won 't even begin to CONSIDER what woud have happened if he had REMOVED his tie.

Bullshit, they want to be manhandled

The immediate impact of that sex wasn't devastating for my psyche, even though now I feel a slow gush of humiliation.

Animal sex is just that - animal sex, the sole aim of which is to reproduce. Well, biologically speaking, that applies to humans as well, but for us sex is also tied to feelings and emotions. Sex is a special act for us- that's why people light scented candles and put on music, etc., while indulging in it. So you know what, you cannot compare.

Moreover, there is no evidence to prove that women will feel good about being raped if they'd fantasized about forceful sex/rape.

While women are allowed to feel good about rape (to put it in your words), most of them will naturally not feel good about it.

Sympathizing with victims of rape is not equivalent to pitying them - maybe that's how you see it.

If these women are left to believe they had a part to play in that incident, their minds will lead them to a slow death thinking this was their fault.

Counseling and support can help mitigate the psychological repercussions of rape.

Harlem man Lawrence Elliot charged in rape, robbery of Hamilton Heights college student
BY Joe Kemp
DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER
November 14th 2010

Cops charged a Harlem man Saturday night with sexually assaulting and robbing a Hamilton Heights woman in a brazen daylight attack.

Lawrence Elliot, 47, who police sources said is a convicted rapist, is accused of following a 21-year-old City College student into her building near St. Nicholas Park about 1:30 p.m. Thursday, police said.

The victim was checking her mail when Elliot approached her and told her he had a gun before pushing her into her apartment, police said.

He forced the woman to perform a sex act before robbing her of belongings, including her debit card, cops said.

Elliot tried to use the bank card in an ATM at a nearby bodega, where his image was captured on surveillance video. A tipster identified Elliot as the man in that video, police said.

Sources said he was convicted of rape in Syracuse and has been arrested on other sexual assault charges.

Elliot was slapped with multiple charges, including predatory sexual assault, criminal sex act, burglary, robbery and kidnapping. He was awaiting arraignment Saturday night.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_crime/2010/11/13/2010-11-13_harlem_man_lawrence_elliot_charged_in_rape_robbery_of_hamilton_heights_college_s.html?r=news

are trying to justify their own needs to dominate, and, perhaps, justify their own fantasies about raping women.

How do u know this ?

Ever since Margaret Atwood—a feminist novelist in the most important sense—wrote her famous story “Rape Fantasies,” people have understood that sometimes women’s sexual fantasies are anything but politically correct. Now there’s an interesting story in the New York Times Magazine that implicitly asks: Are contemporary women doomed to experience a schism between what their bodies lust for and their minds tell them they want? (Full disclosure: Dan Bergner, the author, is an old acquaintance.) The story offers up a road map of female desire as charted by postfeminist scientists, who have been exploring female desire with gusto. Guess what? What women want in bed is far more complex and, well, polymorphously perverse than some had formerly thought. In fact, no one understands any of it yet.

Yet one interesting idea emerges from the piece: the notion that female desire is based less on intimacy (the old truism) than on the perception of being desired—a notion that, it would seem, complicates feminist notions of owning your sexuality. To take just a few bits of research from the piece: As Bergner reports, scientists have long wondered why women sometimes describe feeling arousal (even orgasm) during nonconsensual sex; some scientists now theorize that it stems from an evolutionary adaptation to early human sex. (Women whose genitals remained unlubricated were more susceptible to injury, infection, and, consequently, death.)

Maybe you can talk some sense into the ones on this thread that seem to think every reported rape is false or that the women/men should just get over it.

Right--those are fantasies, not actual rape situations. And the fantasy is under her control. Fantasy can be very liberating.

The crime of rape is not a fantasy. It is an actual sexual assault.

Women who fantasize about rape are not indicating a desire to actually be raped, and that is what the research on this subject indicates. So, why do you keep bringing up fantasies when discussing the crime of rape?

Call me BORING (that can happen), but I have very conventional attitudes that do not include playing games. I like to be straightforward and "NO" means "OK, Good nite."

As we have seen discussing this subject even at a2k is difficult, so successful have the rape feminists been is shutting down discussion and preventing science from producing evidence that counters your claims.

that seem to think every reported rape is false or that the women/men should just get over it.

Realize that women have ample reason to consider every man a potential rapist.

In Maryland, rape is determined at the beginning of the sex act, and therefore consent is officially given at that point