Hey, Can A Woman "Ask To Get Raped"?

Rape is non consensual, it is an unwanted sexual assault.

There is NEVER a time when the victim can or should be blamed for being raped.
To blame the victim is innexcusable.

However, because there are so many false allegations of rape, it does tend to make true rape allegations suspect, in my opinion.
There are cases where the charge of rape has been used as a weapon by a woman to get something she wants.
And while it is true that those women are dealt with by the law, there is something we are all forgetting.

Where does the falsely accused person go to get their good reputations back?
Once a man is accused, thats all anyone remembers, not that the charge was proven false.
So either way, he loses.

I am not willing to give up erotic fun and exploration because some one some where is being violated through sexual transgression.

However, and this is where I think Bill and others have an argument with you, in some cases the sex was consensual, and after the woman suffers "buyers remorse" about the person she had sex with, then it becomes a rape case.

You are saying that no matter what, its still rape.
Bill is saying, IMHO, that in that case it isnt rape, no matter what the woman says

spidergal wrote:

I don't think the scenario you present can be used as a valid comparison to the drunken situation discussed above.

They're married. They're not strangers to each other. They presumably have sex on a regular basis.
It's different with the random people you get drunk with at the pub.

OmSigDAVID replied:

I 'm ASKING, not comparing.

In MY jurisdiction, NY, it used to be impossible for a husband to rape his own wife,
because that exception was explicitly written into the statute.
It was deleted.

Where does that leave hubby, the morning after the feast ??

(I remember a case wherein a fellow was accused of 100s,
maybe 1000s, of rapes over the years.)

We are talking about rape--non consensual sex.

spidergal wrote:

I don't think the scenario you present can be used as a valid comparison to the drunken situation discussed above.

They're married. They're not strangers to each other. They presumably have sex on a regular basis.
It's different with the random people you get drunk with at the pub.

OmSigDAVID replied:

I 'm ASKING, not comparing.

In MY jurisdiction, NY, it used to be impossible for a husband to rape his own wife,
because that exception was explicitly written into the statute.
It was deleted.

Where does that leave hubby, the morning after the feast ??

(I remember a case wherein a fellow was accused of 100s,
maybe 1000s, of rapes over the years.)

I'm not in NYC, and I've no clue what you're talking about. Are you referring to husbands being charged of rape when they force their wives into having sex with them despite their (wives') refusal?

She often wants the male to take charge, to take her over her protest.

The only one who bears any responsibility for a rape is the person who commits the act

Again, prove this. Unless you prove it, it's just a factoid. You're not even a woman yourself - what makes you think so?

Does that go for you to?

If you are the one not drinking in a heavy manner and he is do you placed your freedom at risk if he regret having sex with you the next day?

Should he be allow to place you in prison for twenty years and if not why does it only run one way in your opinion?

However, because there are so many false allegations of rape, it does tend to make true rape allegations suspect, in my opinion.

They're married. They're not strangers to each other. They presumably have sex on a regular basis. It's different with the random people you get drunk with at the pub.

Who said anything about random people I myself had said you was out partying with someone assuming you knew this person at least somewhat.

Getting drunk in public without people you know with you is a bad idea for a man or a woman and something I was not picturing in my postings.

Talk about the need to tell sons not to rape telling daughters not to get drunk in public without at least protected friends around or not with someone in private who you do have reason to trust one hundred percent seem to be far more needed.

In this thread, we have been talking about the crime of rape--actual rapes.

You missed my point. The long term effect of sleeping with the wrong men is sexual humiliation. T

Realization that I've only slept with nutcases will result in apparent humiliation and low self-esteem perhaps, but it will be nothing like the psychological trauma a woman has to endure because she was forced into sexual activity against her will.

Even though, in retrospect, I feel "like being raped", I'm aware I did choose to sleep with those men at that time. That sex was not against my will. It was not traumatic at that time. The immediate impact of that sex wasn't devastating for my psyche, even though now I feel a slow gush of humiliation.

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I said higher mammals, which not only means a frontal cortex but ones that have a similar frontal cortex to us.

Animal sex is just that - animal sex, the sole aim of which is to reproduce. Well, biologically speaking, that applies to humans as well, but for us sex is also tied to feelings and emotions. Sex is a special act for us- that's why people light scented candles and put on music, etc., while indulging in it. So you know what, you cannot compare.

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Of course they are allowed to feel good about rape...they survived a very dangerous situation and telling them how much we pity them is not the right attitude.

Actually, different women have different reactions to a traumatic experience like rape. Based on the temperament they are born with (are they stoic/tough?), the life experiences (upbringing, etc.), and the response of their immediate society to their rape, different women will display varying coping mechanisms. Some will overcome much of the hurt, while some will slip into depression, etc.

While women are allowed to feel good about rape (to put it in your words), most of them will naturally not feel good about it. Moreover, there is no evidence to prove that women will feel good about being raped if they'd fantasized about forceful sex/rape.

Sympathizing with victims of rape is not equivalent to pitying them - maybe that's how you see it. If these women are left to believe they had a part to play in that incident, their minds will lead them to a slow death thinking this was their fault.

Counseling and support can help mitigate the psychological repercussions of rape.