Hey, Can A Woman "Ask To Get Raped"?

@BillRM,

Bill - what type of boys do you think are doing the raping/forcible frat house sex?

@Intrepid,

Would work on either... That's about a 9.5 on the tension meter there, Intrepid.

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@Intrepid,

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We are not dealing with muggers, you idiot. We are dealing with RAPISTS! Something that you do not seem to have the ability to comprehend.

LOL and more LOL we are talking about any male or males who might wish to harm a woman out by herself for a walk for whatever reason.

Or is it your opinion that bear spray would react in a deferent manner if the person who is attacking her wished to rape her instead of just stealing her money?

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@Lash,

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Do you feel entitled to take what you want from a woman who is so stupid as to walk alone in the dark, Ionus?

What kind of a statement is that?

Most men the vast majority of men would not harm a woman for any reason we are talking about the one percent or less of men who would do so and how to deal with that risk of running into such a human animal.

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@Lash,

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Doesn't everyone have the talk with their son - about "no" means "no"?...

When I was still a teen I took a girl into the bedroom at a party but she kept on saying no. So I stopped. She said what's wrong ? I said you said not to ...you said dont. She was embarrassed and said...I just say that for some reason....I dont mean it...so I continued foreplay and she continued to say no so I stopped again. She explained that the first time she had sex she said no a lot and he did it anyway and now it is just a habit. So we continued and she said no some more so I stopped got up and went into the kitchen to drink and talk with my mates.

She came out looking daggers at me. I thought she was mentally ill. Much later in life it occurred to me what if out of bad temper she had decided to say I tried to rape her. No only means no when it suits women. Hell have no fury like a woman scorned.

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They DO rely on parents to teach them what constitutes rape and responsible sexual behavior.

I am positive my sons are not capable of rape.

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@Intrepid,

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The stupidity of these analogies is astounding.

Will an explanation be forthcoming ?

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@Intrepid,

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Use your head, man!

What makes you an expert on what she meant ? That you trust your ESP but not my caution ?

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@Lash,

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Do you feel entitled to take what you want from a woman who is so stupid as to walk alone in the dark, Ionus?

No of course not but I feel a chill when I think of what MIGHT happen. Predators stalk of a night time, looking for people to rob and they are not the most successful men sexually.

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@Lash,

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Bill - what type of boys do you think are doing the raping/forcible frat house sex?

I think there is a lot of sex and a lot of drinking in frat houses and that is never a wise combination especially with young people but little rape is happening.

Being an engineering student carrying on average 21 credit hours I never had either the time or the desire to take part of such goings on so I can not from my own knowledge address the issue even concerning the frat houses of the late 1960s.

SO have you been to frat houses where rape is happening?

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@Ionus,

Ionus:

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How many women wake up at some stage of a relationship (perhaps the next day even) and think bloody hell what am I doing with him?

They did consent to it initially, didn't they? Rape is non consensual sex - as has been howled over and over again by so many here. Just because I regret sleeping with a guy later doesn't make it rape belatedly. I agreed to have sex with him - my bad the guy turns out to be a jerk.

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Sexual instincts such as humans have are VERY similar in most higher mammals.

The bit about animals was slightly confusing, IMO. We may share some of our sexual instincts with animals, but we've also got a frontal cortex which has evolved to think logically and make rational decisions, an ability animals lack. So what exactly are you driving at?

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As for references, I can not present such to people when it may disturb them to think what I say is absolutely true.

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There are differing degrees of rape. There are differing women. When women fantasise about rape it is not rape in their minds.

So you'll not present us with evidence, after all? In anyway, just because a woman enjoys erotic fantasies of rough sex, doesn't mean she would like it done to her in rape form.

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@spidergal,

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They did consent to it initially, didn't they? Rape is non consensual sex - as has been howled over and over again by so many here. Just because I regret sleeping with a guy later doesn't make it rape belatedly. I agreed to have sex with him - my bad the guy turns out to be a jerk.

Not by Firefly thinking if you had cloud you own judgment by drinking and then regret going to bed with a man he had indeed rape you.

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@BillRM,

I certainly did not consider that while responding to Ionus. He didn't mention drinking either.

Consenting to having sex when you're drunk is a different matter altogether, and of course, men should have the better sense to know that a drunk woman cannot make rational decisions in that state.

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@spidergal,

So if you both are out drinking/partying and you cloud your own judgment and then regret having sex you should be able to lock him up for twenty years as a rapist?

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@spidergal,

spidergal wrote:

I certainly did not consider that while responding to Ionus. He didn't mention drinking either.

Consenting to having sex when you're drunk is a different matter altogether, and of course,
men should have the better sense to know that a drunk woman cannot make rational decisions in that state.

What if a married couple have a fine feast at home
including all the wine that thay desire, after which, being tired,
thay retire to their bed and nature takes its course ?

The following morning, their respective memories r less than clear about who agreed to what.

David

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@BillRM,

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So if you both are out drinking/partying and you cloud your own judgment and then regret having sex you should be able to lock him up for twenty years as a rapist?

That's a tricky one if both are drunk and not lucid enough to know what they're doing, but if the guy is in his senses, then yes, he ought to back off and not take advantage of the vulnerable female.

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@BillRM,

I did see something that disturbed me two years ago as a student at UGA. Five guys were literally carrying a girl to a car in the parking garage. I came VERY close to interceding, but I may have looked really out of place demanding to take some unconscious child home at 3 am.

They may have put her to bed - or the entire frat could have used her as a blow up doll.

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@OmSigDAVID,

I don't think the scenario you present can be used as a valid comparison to the drunken situation discussed above.

They're married. They're not strangers to each other. They presumably have sex on a regular basis. It's different with the random people you get drunk with at the pub.

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@spidergal,

spidergal wrote:

I don't think the scenario you present can be used as a valid comparison to the drunken situation discussed above.

They're married. They're not strangers to each other. They presumably have sex on a regular basis.
It's different with the random people you get drunk with at the pub.

I 'm ASKING, not comparing.

In MY jurisdiction, NY, it used to be impossible for a husband to rape his own wife,
because that exception was explicitly written into the statute.
It was deleted.

Where does that leave hubby, the morning after the feast ??

(I remember a case wherein a fellow was accused of 100s,
maybe 1000s, of rapes over the years.)

David

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@Ionus,

I understand the fury and confusion caused by girls who say no and mean yes. Let her look daggers through you and huff and puff. A guy has the right to ditch a girl who plays these games - because they are VERY dangerous. You did the right thing.

Sadly, a lot of girls' bullshit has to do with the REALLY unfair double standard about sex. For the same exact behavior, boys are praised and girls are ruined. She's taught she must say no - and if she doesn't, she's a useless whore. So, while I understand confused chicks in this regard, guys have to let these feeble "my mouth says no, but my hand in your pants says yes" protestations bring action to a screeching halt - until he clarifies if she is indeed saying no - or playing that timeworn game.

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@Lash,

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But, something as simple as - when she says NO, stop - would keep a lot of boys out of trouble.

Well, some at least. The problem is that the rape feminists are teaching girls that only an active saying yes is good enough, with an asterix because even that is not good enough if the girl imagines the the guy will press negative ramifications if she says no, if the guy has higher status than she, if the guy is too forceful in his asking, if the guy is perceived to encourage her to drink before the asking is done...and I am probably leaving something out.

Women are being encouraged to demand and expect to be in complete control of the dynamic between two people, and if they have not been to feel violated. Stopping if the girls says no or resists is not going to keep the guys out of trouble. That would have worked 20 years ago, before the indoctrination program of the rape feminists had moved the goal posts of expectations of women, but not now.

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