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Hey, Can A Woman "Ask To Get Raped"?

 
 
Ionus
 
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Reply Tue 9 Nov, 2010 10:43 pm
@Caroline,
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No you are wrong Ionus, the majority or rapes are against women and children, jeez get your facts straight, everyone knows that!
Everyone knowing it is not conducive to being true. The majority of rapes are men against men. This is from studies done of prisoners and men help groups.
firefly
 
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Reply Tue 9 Nov, 2010 10:45 pm
@Ionus,
The majority of rape victims are female.

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Women

1 out of every 6 American women has been the victim of an attempted or completed rape in her lifetime (14.8% completed rape; 2.8% attempted rape).

17.7 million American women have been victims of attempted or completed rape.

9 of every 10 rape victims were female in 2003.


Men
About 3% of American men — or 1 in 33 — have experienced an attempted or completed rape in their lifetime.

•In 2003, 1 in every ten rape victims were male.
•2.78 million men in the U.S. have been victims of sexual assault or rape.


Children
15% of sexual assault and rape victims are under age 12.3

•29% are age 12-17.
•44% are under age 18.3
•80% are under age 30.3
•12-34 are the highest risk years.
•Girls ages 16-19 are 4 times more likely than the general population to be victims of rape, attempted rape, or sexual assault.
7% of girls in grades 5-8 and 12% of girls in grades 9-12 said they had been sexually abused.
•3% of boys grades 5-8 and 5% of boys in grades 9-12 said they had been sexually abused.

In 1995, local child protection service agencies identified 126,000 children who were victims of either substantiated or indicated sexual abuse.

•Of these, 75% were girls.
•Nearly 30% of child victims were between the age of 4 and 7.
93% of juvenile sexual assault victims know their attacker.6

•34.2% of attackers were family members.
•58.7% were acquaintances.
•Only 7% of the perpetrators were strangers to the victim.
http://www.rainn.org/get-information/statistics/sexual-assault-victims


Caroline
 
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Reply Tue 9 Nov, 2010 10:45 pm
@Ionus,
Don't be so stupid, how do you think they got there in the first place, man you show me the stats then I'll believe you're not talking out of your ass hole.
firefly
 
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Reply Tue 9 Nov, 2010 10:57 pm
Prison sentences for rapes already tend to be pretty hefty. The idea is to keep these people off the streets as long as possible.

Quote:
Brookings rapist sentenced to 80 years in prison
Seven months later, Chris Jones has been brought to justice.
By Ruth Brown
November 9, 2010

Christopher L. Jones, the man responsible for three violent sexual assaults, was sentenced on Nov. 9 to 80 concurrent years in state penitentiary for three second-degree rapes and one kidnapping that occurred in Brookings last spring.

The 202 days Jones served in the Brookings County Jail will count toward his sentence. He will be eligible for parole in approximately 51 years.

"He is a narcissistic, violent animal who has no remorse for what he has done," said Clyde Calhoon, Brookings County states attorney, at the sentencing. "A violent animal like that needs to be put in a cage; the defendant needs to be put in a cage."

Jones' attorney Rick Ribstein said he disagreed with Calhoon's statement, and that Jones was not the "animal" Calhoon portrayed him to be.

"[Jones] is remorseful and feels bad about what he has done … he asks these young women for their forgiveness," Ribstein said.

Jones later stood and apologized to the courtroom.

"In the past several months, I have had a lot of time to sit and think about my decisions… I would like to apologize for showing a lack of respect to [the victims], and invading their personal space both physically and emotionally," Jones said in his apology. "… I have younger sisters, and I am ashamed and embarrassed of what I did."

In Jones' final statement he said he "sincerely apologized," and he knew "words don't heal all wounds" but he hopes that one day they could forgive him.

The first victim will receive $872.41 in restitution, the second will receive $829.19, and the third will receive $1,043.60. He will also pay $104 in court fees for each count.

According to Ribstein, Jones wrote letters of apology to each of the three women he attacked.

Ribstein also made other arguments in the defense's favor.

"[Jones] did cooperate from the beginning, and I think the court should take that into consideration," Ribstein said. "He is a bright, young individual and has caused no problems since his arrest and has had no prior convictions."

Jones was ordered to undergo a psychosexual evaluation and was not found to have any redeeming qualities or characteristics, according to Calhoon.

The evaluation found Jones to be in the 95th percentile of being at the risk of re-offending and in the 81st percentile in regards to having violent characteristics. He is also a borderline schizophrenic and a psychopath, Calhoon said.

"Put that together with a man that is the 95th percentile of committing a crime again and you have an individual that is very, very dangerous," Calhoon said in court. "In my 36 years as a prosecutor … I can't remember any investigation that left me as cold as this one did. I don't believe the defendant has any compassion or remorse whatsoever … ."

The crimes Jones committed were spread out over three weeks last spring. The first two occurred on campus near Hilton M. Briggs Library and in the residence hall parking lot near Young and Caldwell residence halls on March 29 and April 7, respectively. The third and final incident, which involved the kidnapping, happened off campus early morning April 20. Jones was arrested later that same day. During all three assaults, Jones was armed with a knife and demanded money from the women.

"What he did to these three young ladies will affect them for the rest of their lives," Calhoon said as he asked the court to take that into consideration when sentencing.

"This man put the community of Brookings in fear and continued to do so until he was apprehended," Calhoon said. "The continuum of crimes became more and more violent on the ladies assaulted, and this defendant did not stop. We stopped it."

Jones pleaded guilty to the rapes and kidnapping on Sept. 30. In exchange for Jones' four guilty pleas, the two counts of first-degree robbery and one count of attempted robbery, as well as the additional rape charges that were originally brought against him were dismissed.

Jones has no connection to the university and had recently moved from Omaha, Neb., to Brookings at the time of his arrest, living with his girlfriend.
http://www.sdsucollegian.com/brookings-rapist-sentenced-to-80-years-in-prison-1.1766338?compArticle=yes

Caroline
 
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Reply Tue 9 Nov, 2010 11:01 pm
@firefly,
Yeah in america firefly but not in the uk, take a look.
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firefly
 
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Reply Tue 9 Nov, 2010 11:31 pm
ESPN exec Keri Potts was the victim of an attempted date rape while on vacation in Italy. This strong and determined woman shared the story of what happened to her and the legal aftermath of her ordeal.
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How I Escaped My Rapist

On the last night of her Italian vacation, ESPN exec Keri Potts went for a drink with a handsome artist. What could be the harm? She was about to find out.

As told to Erin Zammett Ruddy.

On my last day of vacation in Italy, a chatty café owner in Rome introduced me to a tall, charming Italian man. He was a local artist, I learned; his name was Marco. Just a day earlier, my friend Lynn and I had sat in a piazza in Florence talking about how hard it is to meet nice guys. It had been two years since my last relationship, and, admittedly, I'd grown a little standoffish with the opposite sex. Lynn and I agreed that I could open up a little more. So when I met Marco, I figured why not talk to him? He joined Lynn and me at our table, along with the café owner, and the four of us shared some wine.

An accomplished painter and a fixture in the community, Marco invited us to see his art studio nearby. Giant canvases — contemporary and dramatic, all done in black, white, and red — lined the walls, and paints were scattered everywhere. It was chaotic and beautiful, and I felt excited to meet such a talented man. He seemed interested in me as well, and invited me for drinks later. I told myself, Let your guard down, Keri, and agreed to meet him.

Marco was a bit more boisterous when we met up that night. He drank rum and haggled with a man peddling roses at the bar, then bought me three dozen yellow buds. Ordinarily I would find that oddly over the top, but I just brushed it off as a sweeping, romantic Italian gesture. We flipped through a book of his paintings, and he described the art scene in Italy, noting that some artists are into sex and drugs, but all he needed was art. I said, "That's a good thing, because you are getting no sex-o from me!" He laughed, saying, "I would rather talk with you. You are soft." Then he kissed me.

Marco suggested we go back to his apartment; he wanted to show me the view from his patio, where he did much of his sketching. I thought about it for a moment, then decided, sure. He was interesting and fun, and I felt completely at ease. Plus, I'd made it clear that we wouldn't be jumping into the sack.

His apartment, a sixth-floor walk-up, consisted of just a single room with a bed and TV, a small kitchen with a wooden table, and a bathroom. But the view from the patio was stunning. You could see the top of the Spanish Steps, the shimmering Roman skyline. Marco joined me there, and we talked about the places we'd traveled, places we still want to go to. It was like a scene from a movie. Just past midnight, we walked to a bar down the street.

At the bar, it got a little harder for me to understand Marco. He talked louder and louder, seemingly in circles. He continued to drink rum while I sipped a Pinot Grigio, and when the bar closed, he bought a bottle to go. I suggested that we go to the Spanish Steps, thinking it would be the perfect way to end the night, but he grumbled, "Turista, turista," and led me toward his apartment. I thought, Come on, Keri, lighten up. It's your last night in Rome.

When we got upstairs, Marco blasted music — first something in Spanish and then Coldplay — and moved around the apartment frenetically. He dropped a glass, grabbed some candles, changed the music. I stood on the patio, gazing at the postcard-worthy view. I thought, What an amazing way to end my vacation. What a story to tell my friends. Marco came out and stood behind me, noting that the views in Rome are better than in New York City. I playfully begged to differ, and he scoffed; there was something nasty in his expression. Then he thrust the bottle of rum toward me. When I refused, he walked away and returned with a glass. I wanted to be polite, so I pretended to sip, but I knew it was time to leave.

I walked into the apartment, placed the glass on the table, and told Marco I needed to head home. He had a small cigar box in his hand and offered me a hand-rolled cigarette from inside, presumably marijuana. "No. No, thank you," I said. Then he came around the table and stood in front of me. Mumbling something I didn't understand, he pulled me toward him and kissed my face hard, biting my lips. It hurt, and I tried to push away, but he held the back of my neck with his left hand, pressing my face to his. At the same time, he shoved his right hand down the front of my jeans, undoing my button in the process. I jerked back, but he put both hands on my lower back, pressing me into him. He shoved his hands inside my underwear, scraping me with his fingernails.

I couldn't believe what was happening. "No! No! No!" I shouted. I stumbled and said again that I needed to go. I grabbed my purse and walked toward the door. "It's locked. The door is locked," Marco said. I pulled on the handle and it didn't budge. Starting to panic, I grabbed a set of his keys off the kitchen table and fumbled through them, but Marco stepped toward me. "Those don't open the door," he said, an inch from my face. He had another set of keys that he dangled in front of me then threw toward the bed. "You're not going anywhere," he said. He grabbed the scarf off my neck and put it around his own. I reached for it, but he swatted me back. "You're not going anywhere," he said again. "I'm not joking." Trying to appear calm, I told him Lynn would be waiting for me back at the hotel. "This is ridiculous," I said. "Please open the door."

The more I tried to reason with him, the angrier he grew. He stood in front of the open patio door and reached for the shutters. It was clear he was going to lock them. A surge of adrenaline flooded my body — it felt like I was going to wet my pants — and I thought, Oh, my God, I am going to be raped tonight. No one can help me. Oh, my God, this is what it feels like.

I knew I had to get out to the patio — I remembered seeing another patio about six feet down, which would be my only means of escape. I charged at Marco, throwing myself through the opening, but he grabbed me by my belt and lifted me back inside like I was a rag doll. I'm 5'10" with an athletic build, but Marco was taller — probably around 6'2" — and strong. I felt a sharp pain in my ribs under my right breast as he tried to pull my shirt over my head. I screamed, "No! Get off of me!" so loud, so high-pitched, that I didn't even recognize my voice. Marco kept telling me to "Shush, shush," and every time I'd wriggle out of his grip and run for the ledge, he'd try to drag me back inside. Finally, I thought, OK, this is going to be a death match. I wasn't sure if he wanted to rape me or kill me at this point, but it didn't matter. I was not going to go down without a fight. I was not going to go down, period.

I ran at Marco full force with the palm of my right hand and struck him over and over in his face and mouth. I had taken a self-defense class in college and remembered that you should always hold your hand that way so you don't break any fingers. Then I pushed him harder than I've ever pushed anyone or anything in my life. He stumbled backward and fell onto the floor. Without hesitation, I ran and leaped over the patio wall, hoping to hit the balcony I'd seen below. But my sweater got stuck on the railing, and I just hung there. As I scrambled to get loose, Marco reached over and grabbed my neck, trying to pull me back up. I squirmed and kicked, and finally the sweater ripped. I landed on the small balcony below, crushing a potted plant.

I saw Marco turn and go back into his apartment, and I was sure he was coming for me. The only way I could get to an adjacent rooftop was to climb over a rusty, spiked, wrought-iron gate. I hesitated — I was five stories up — but then got a short running start, put my foot on the bottom rung, and swung my body up and over the gate, onto the next rooftop. Then I ran along the three-foot-wide ledge of the building and jumped to another roof, sliding down the mossy terra-cotta tiles until I was staring right over the edge at the street below. I had the fleeting thought that I was going to die, that I would slip and fall, break my neck, and no one — not Lynn, not my parents — would find me.

But I kept going. I jumped down to another roof about 10 feet below. My legs stung when I landed flat on my feet, but I didn't stop. I couldn't. I assumed Marco was chasing me, and I knew he'd have the advantage. I ran from rooftop to rooftop, crawling on my hands and knees at times to stay out of sight, trying desperately to get to street level.

Finally, I wound up on a balcony with nowhere to go next. I knocked frantically on a window there, and a man appeared. He said, in perfect English, "Please be quiet. My son is sleeping." I told him I was so sorry and explained, "I am an American. I have been attacked by a man and escaped by jumping down onto the rooftops. I am injured and need to get home. This man is trying to kill me. Can you please help me?" Thankfully, he understood. He said yes, he would help, but to hold on for a few minutes.

I waited outside — crouched in a ball — thinking the man was probably calling the cops. But then he appeared again and ushered me inside. "I don't know where this man is, but the way out of here is down the stairs and through the green doors," he said. "Push the button to get out." Then he told me how to get back to my hotel. An older man standing by the door in the apartment handed me a bunch of tissues as I hurried past him. I caught a glimpse of my face in a mirror by the door and saw that I was covered in blood. Marco had punched me in the nose during our scuffle, and I hadn't realized how bad it was.

I flew down four flights of stairs and ran toward the exit. I remember thinking Marco might be waiting for me on the other side, but what choice did I have? I took a deep breath, buzzed the door open, and ran for my life. I sprinted the four blocks back to my hotel, never looking back. When I reached the hotel doors, I turned around and pumped my fists in the air, Rocky-style. I had done it. I had gotten away from this monster. I ran up to my room and pounded on the door. When Lynn saw my face, she went white. "What happened?" she asked. "Marco just tried to rape me," I said. "But I won," I said. "I won." Then, for the first time all night, I started to cry. We both did.

I was supposed to be on a flight back to the States a few hours later, but I couldn't go. There is nothing that disgusts me more than rape, and I would have felt like a hypocrite if I didn't report Marco to the authorities. I was battered and bruised — and still scared he might find me — but I couldn't let him get away with his attack. So Lynn and I got to work, calling my health-insurance company, my sister, the U.S. Embassy, the hospital, the police, my boss at ESPN. About an hour later, I started shaking uncontrollably. Just before daybreak, we went to the hospital for X-rays (miraculously, nothing was broken) and then to the U.S. Embassy, which helped me start a police report and arranged for an interpreter to meet me at the police station.

The next day, I spent 10 hours with the police and an interpreter, filing a report. At one point, we stood outside of the building where the man had helped me, and I tried to explain how I'd gotten away. The investigators were getting frustrated because I couldn't remember the balcony in question. Just then a woman walked up. "Are you American?" she asked. "I think my husband let you into our apartment last night." She let the police into the building and directed them to her balcony. (She and her husband also went to the police station to give a statement.) While she spoke to the police inside, I walked up and down the street crying, talking to myself and to God, even though I'm not a churchgoer. But I have to say, I felt a presence when that man let me in off the balcony, and I felt it again when his wife happened upon us in the street.

When the police were finished piecing together the escape route, the lead investigator looked at me and said, "You are Wonder Woman." Marco was interrogated that day and later charged with attempted sexual assault.

Lynn and I flew home, but the fight was far from over. I hired a legal team in Italy to follow through on the case, and I returned to Rome six months later for an interview with the public prosecutor. I wanted Marco to be punished for what he had done; I thought about how many other women he may have tried this with, and it made me feel sick. So I researched Italian criminal law to better understand the court system. I talked to the U.S. State Department and the Department of Justice about my case. I stayed in constant contact with my attorney, filling out court documents and visiting Italian Embassies in the U.S. to get papers stamped. Fortunately, my coworkers at ESPN were incredibly supportive, giving me the flexibility to finish my mission.

After a yearlong investigation, the public prosecutor decided to boost the charge from attempted sexual assault to sexual assault. She also added a charge of assault, which meant that instead of looking at five years in jail, Marco had the potential to get 12. Ultimately, he plea-bargained, and on April 22, 2010, he received a suspended sentence of 11 months, 10 days, which means he didn't go to jail. However, he is on probation for the next five years, and if he commits another crime of any kind during that time, he will go straight to prison. He was also ordered to pay all my legal fees, which amounted to about $10,000.

At first I felt disappointed that Marco wouldn't be jailed, but now I feel proud of my efforts; I never gave up. A day doesn't go by when I don't think of that night. I have a small scar on my stomach where Marco gouged his fingernails into me, and I look at it often. I alternately love and hate that scar. I hate it because it reminds me of what happened, and I love it for the same reason.

For more on Keri Potts' story and for additional information on overseas prosecution of sexual assault, please visit A Fight Back Woman Blog.

Erin Zammett Ruddy is a freelance writer living on Long Island, New York. She is the author of the memoir My So-Called Normal Life.
http://www.marieclaire.com/sex-love/relationship-issues/articles/escape-from-rapist
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Ionus
 
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Reply Tue 9 Nov, 2010 11:43 pm
@firefly,
It was people like you who believed the Jews were out for world domination. You quote statistics from an organisation that basis its existence on dramatising the rape of women. Exactly what I have been trying to say, is a bad idea.

A US Air Force study concluded 60% of rape allegations turned out to be false.

1 in 25 women is a victim of a completed rape.
1 in 23 is the victim of an attempted or incomplete rape.

Prior to the Smith/Tyson date rape trial, date rape decreased from 1973 to 1988 by 33%. After the trial, there was a marked increase in the number of women reporting rapes. Perhaps they didnt want some other bitch to get all the attention; or perhaps they shouldnt try date rape cases as it only leads to more rape.

These statistics are accurate - what do think about the conclusions ?
Ionus
 
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Reply Tue 9 Nov, 2010 11:56 pm
@Caroline,
Quote:
how do you think they got there in the first place
Of course everyone in prison is there for rape...except the women...they are there for being victims.
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firefly
 
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Reply Wed 10 Nov, 2010 12:05 am
@Ionus,
Quote:
You quote statistics from an organisation that basis its existence on dramatising the rape of women

These are the sources for the RAINN statistics I cited. Do you think that the U.S. Department of Justice is "an organisation that basis its existence on dramatising the rape of women"?
Quote:
References

1.National Institute of Justice & Centers for Disease Control & Prevention. Prevalence, Incidence and Consequences of Violence Against Women Survey. 1998.
2.U.S. Department of Justice. 2003 National Crime Victimization Survey. 2003.
3.U.S. Department of Justice. 2004 National Crime Victimization Survey. 2004.
4.1998 Commonwealth Fund Survey of the Health of Adolescent Girls. 1998.
5.U.S. Department of Health & Human Services, Administration for Children and Families. 1995 Child Maltreatment Survey. 1995.
6.U.S. Bureau of Justice Statistics. 2000 Sexual Assault of Young Children as Reported to Law Enforcement. 2000.
7.World Health Organization. 2002.
8.U.S. Department of Justice. 2005 National Crime Victimization Survey. 2005.
http://www.rainn.org/get-information/statistics/sexual-assault-victims

RAINN--The Rape, Abuse & Incest National Network is the nation's largest anti-sexual assault organization.

What do I think about your conclusions?

I find you woefully uninformed, negatively biased in your view of women, and generally rather uninteresting. Spout all the opinions you want, but you're not saying anything that's worthy of my time or attention.

Ionus
 
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Reply Wed 10 Nov, 2010 12:21 am
@firefly,
Quote:
RAINN: The nation's largest anti-sexual violence organization.
One of "America's 100 Best Charities" -Worth magazine
Since when has the US Dept of Justice been a charity ?
Quote:
I find you woefully uninformed, negatively biased in your view of women, and generally rather uninteresting. Spout all the opinions you want, but you're not saying anything that's worthy of my time or attention.
I find you woefully uninformed, negatively biased in your view of men, and generally very predictable following the same old lines that get women attention and sympathy from those men that are desperate to be laid. I bet I would be worth your time if I agreed with you. You are a bigot.
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firefly
 
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Reply Wed 10 Nov, 2010 12:52 am
Quote:

November 9, 2010
National FBI Sex-Trafficking Sting Yields 885 Arrests, Rescues 69 Children

The FBI conducted its ongoing “Operation Cross Country V” on Nov. 5-7, in 40 cities around the country, as part of its ongoing Innocence Lost National Initiative.

Whether sex-trafficking has become more prevalent or the FBI is better coordinating with state and local law enforcement agencies, one thing is certain: The statistics are more alarming with each passing year.

According to the FBI, this year’s sting helped recover 69 children, who had been forced into prostitution, and arrested nearly 885 persons and 99 pimps. States targeted include: Alabama, Alaska, Arizona, California, Colorado, Florida, Georgia, Illinois, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Mississippi, Ohio, Oregon, Texas and Washington.

Ernie Allen, president of the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children, said he hopes these statistics will help awaken the nation to this growing problem.

“American children are being marketed and sold for sex in American cities,” Allen said. “These kids are victims. This is 21st century slavery.”

According to the FBI:

“Task Force operations usually begin as local actions, targeting such places as truck stops, casinos, street ‘tracks’ and Internet websites, based on intelligence gathered by officers working in their respective jurisdictions…

“To date, the 39 Innocence Lost Task Forces and Working Groups have recovered over 1,200 children from the streets. The investigations and subsequent 625 convictions have resulted in lengthy sentences, including multiple 25-years-to-life sentences and the seizure of more than $3.1 million in assets.”


Shawn Henry, executive assistant director of the FBI’s Criminal, Cyber, Response, and Services Branch, said that child prostitution continues to be a significant problem.

“There is no work more important than protecting America’s children and freeing them from the cycle of victimization,” Henry said. “Through our strategic partnerships with state and local law enforcement agencies, we are able to make a difference.”
http://www.citizenlink.com/2010/11/national-fbi-sex-trafficking-sting-yields-885-arrests-rescues-69-children/
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Wed 10 Nov, 2010 02:10 am
@firefly,
Wow, so all of the iterations have yielded 625 convictions and 1200"rescues" yet this go-round nets 885 arrests and 69 rescues?? What this tells me is that the conviction rate is very poor, presumably because the arrest rate is plumped up with a lot arrests that never stand a chance of getting DA attention because there was never any basis for an arrest (other than PR that is). Lets round up the usual suspects so that we can claim that we are doing something, shall we?

I would like to know how many of these 1200 kids wanted to go back home. My guess is not many, that they volunteered to leave home in the first case because their home-life sucked, and that going back to that is not a terribly appealing prospect.

I am sure that the saviours feel great about themselves though,no matter how little they actually accomplish
BillRM
 
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Reply Wed 10 Nov, 2010 02:28 am
@firefly,
Those surveys are jokes and we had cover why they are jokes many times here.
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Wed 10 Nov, 2010 02:29 am
@Ionus,
AM said
Quote:
I think Bill and Hawkeye have made it perfectly clear how little they care about victims of rape.
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Then I must make an effort to distance myself from their point of view. Victims of rape need support, some for a long time after and most never fully recover.

Take note that AM has misrepresented my view, and I think Bills as well. I care a great deal about the welfare of those who have been raped assuming that one is talking about the forcible penetration of an adult or the penetration of someone under a reasonable AOC with or with out what is falsely considered to be consent (as the law takes away from those under about 17 yo the right to consent thus consent can never be given). My objection is in how a radical fringe that I and some others call the rape feminists have successfully used a false rape scare to change law to suit their puritanical and anti male agenda, this after they successfully radically changed the definition of rape for the same purposes. I am also objecting to the broad move to criminalize vast sections of normal human sexual/erotic expression and practices, I am offended by this brash assault upon individual liberty.
BillRM
 
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Reply Wed 10 Nov, 2010 02:33 am
@hawkeye10,
I love the 99 pimps to 69 girls ratio!!!!!!!!!

That mean that every girl had 1.4 pimps so there is something wrong with these numbers indeed.

I could see ten pimps and two hundreds girls ratio for example but not the crazy ratio this project had produce for some strange reason.
BillRM
 
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Reply Wed 10 Nov, 2010 02:36 am
@hawkeye10,
Quote:
My objection is in how a radical fringe that I and some others call the rape feminists have successfully used a false rape scare to change law to suit their puritanical and anti male agenda, this after they successfully radically changed the definition of rape for the same purposes. I am also objecting to the broad move to criminalize vast sections of normal human sexual/erotic expression and practices, I am offended by this brash assault upon individual liberty.


AGREE
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Wed 10 Nov, 2010 02:48 am
@BillRM,
Quote:
I love the 99 pimps to 69 girls ratio!!!!!!!!!

What this tells me is that most of the girls told the wannabe saviors to go **** themselves, that their "help" was not wanted. There are about 300,000 under aged prostitutes working America's streets on any given day (according to the saviours) , and these guys came up with 99 pimps and talked 69 girls into going home or into another line a work and I am supposed to be all impressed? Not.
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BillRM
 
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Reply Wed 10 Nov, 2010 03:05 am
@firefly,
The ratio of 1200 children/sex slaves recover to 3.1 million of asset seized is interesting also as it would seem that this business is amazing low profit with every child only yielding roughly 2500 dollars of assets.

Let look at the numbers of total assets seized to total convictions that work out to 5,000 or so dollars of wealth seized per person arrested.

Lord these slavers should go into another line of business. Drugs come to mind where 31. millions is nothing or for that matter they would be better off working in a fast food place at minimum wages.
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Ionus
 
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Reply Wed 10 Nov, 2010 03:24 am
@hawkeye10,
I shouldnt have taken her at her word. Your position I find reasonable and very similar to mine.
Arella Mae
 
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Reply Wed 10 Nov, 2010 10:15 am
Good Lord, there are three of them! Oh well, three that I will vote down and ignore.
 

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