@BillRM,
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I would love to know if firefly is married or not and if so the poor guy email so I could send this posting to him of his wife defending some sick nut claiming mistreatment/rape in the married bed as justification to cut off his penis when he was sleeping.
Somehow I do not think she is married however or at least not likley married to someone with a penis.
These personal remarks, and your others about me in a similar vein, are very degrading, insulting, and offensive. You genuinely have no respect for women.
And you had the gall to make this totally unjustified comment to Intrepid
Quote:You do have contempt for all of womankind.
Take a look in the mirror, buddy, you are talking about yourself.
Do you have any idea why I even posted the article about Lorena Bobbit along with the comments I made about it? Did you read the sequence of remarks, particularly by Hawkeye, that were made prior to that post?
Hawkeye revealed his understanding of the responsibility in a rape situation to be on this level:
Quote:and SOME WOMEN need to take responsibility and keep their legs closed!
He essentially blamed the victim for her own rape.
Hawkeye then went on to say:
Quote:I know the knee jerk reaction is to blame the man, but this is 2010...We reached equality some time ago, and with equality women gain responsibilities,which they tend to want to avoid by blaming men when something goes wrong
When something goes wrong? That's his view
of a rape. Something "went wrong" so the woman blames the man.
He's not only blaming the victim, he's denying the nature of a rape.
Hawkeye then said
Quote:And women have no responsibility to report or help the state prosecute rapists, their main responsibility to to themselves at that point, they are the injured party
Oh, first he says that women should take responsibility for the rape, and now he wouldn't even urge women to report the rape...that their main responsibility is to themselves.
Well, I suddenly remembered Lorena Bobbit, and the whole issue of spousal rape and domestic abuse. Which is why I said:
Quote:Hawkeye, men like you convince women that Lorena Bobbit had the right idea. She skipped reporting the facts of her abuse and rape to the police and simply took matters into her own hands...literally.
I posted the facts of the Bobbit case and said
Quote:Now there's a woman who overcame her victimization at the hands of a man
Lorena Bobbit was a battered wife who found her rape that night, by her drunken husband, so intolerable that she finally snapped. One can only imagine how much abuse and rape she had endured before that night that caused her to become unhinged and take the action she did. But it was the final
rape that did it to her. And she attacked the "weapon" used to rape her. And, in a rape, a penis does become a weapon.
Did I "defend" Lorena's actions? Of course not. But I could certainly understand the enormous build up of despair and rage and feelings of helplessness that must have driven her over the edge of reason that night. This woman had been badly abused by her husband, physically and sexually, and she felt she just had to end her victimization that night.
Not only could most women understand why Lorena became unhinged, I think most men could also. And the jury did too. Anyone with the capacity for empathy could.
BillRM, from this you conclude that I am some sort of man-hater? Because I brought up her case? Because I can empathize with her suffering? I brought up her case in this thread because I wanted to make a point about
rape and what that kind of abuse and humiliation can do to a woman.
Do you have any conception, at all, of what rape is like for the victim?
Quote:The Bobbitt case was one of the first unique scandals that brought public attention to the subject of marital rape. The case also brought attention to the issue of domestic violence. Within days of the incident, domestic violence and feminist groups rallied around Lorena, citing the continuous abuse she suffered at the hands of her husband that caused her to defend herself, albeit in an unusual and violent manner
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_and_Lorena_Bobbitt
Indirectly, the notoriety of the case did benefit other women. It did draw public attention to the problem of marital rape. The lack of public attention, prior to that time, might have accounted for why Lorena did not know how to deal with her situation in a better manner before she got to the breaking point.
So, rather than making insulting remarks about me, or anyone else, why don't you try to put some effort into trying to understand what is being said here.
