Hey, Can A Woman "Ask To Get Raped"?

Yes we should cause elderly women to be as fearful as possible of rare events as that will surely be a benefit to them.

Such websites in the past have not proven to be good sources of reliable statistics to say the least in any area of sexual assaults

I am not reading anything they post. They aren't going to change, firefly.

Alleged mastermind behind Elizabeth Smart kidnapping to stand trial
By Ashley Hayes, CNNOctober 31, 2010 4:42 p.m. EDT

(CNN) -- More than eight years after a Utah teenager disappeared from her bedroom on a summer night, the man authorities believe masterminded her kidnapping is set to stand trial in federal court.

Brian David Mitchell, 57, is accused of snatching then-14-year-old Elizabeth Smart at knifepoint from her family's Salt Lake City home on June 5, 2002 -- a crime that shocked the nation and the city, which was then basking in the glow of the 2002 Olympic Winter Games a few months earlier.

Mitchell faces federal charges of kidnapping and transporting a minor across state lines for improper purposes. Jury selection in his trial is scheduled to begin Monday in Salt Lake City.

In the months that followed Smart's disappearance, her anguished parents, Ed and Lois, became a familiar sight in the media as they continued to plead for their daughter's safe return.

But no one expected what happened in March 2003, when Smart was found walking down a street in the Salt Lake City suburb of Sandy in the company of Mitchell and his wife, Wanda Eileen Barzee. Mitchell, a drifter and self-described prophet who called himself "Emmanuel," had done some handyman work at the Smarts' home.

Utah prosecutors charged Mitchell with six felony charges of kidnapping, sexual assault and burglary. But in July 2005, a Utah district court judge ruled him incompetent to stand trial, leaving him in custody at the Utah State Hospital.

However, the state case against Mitchell was put on hold when federal authorities stepped in. A grand jury in 2008 indicted Mitchell and Barzee. U.S. District Judge Dale Kimball found Mitchell competent to stand trial in March.

Barzee, 64, pleaded guilty in November 2009 to kidnapping and unlawful transportation of a minor in federal court and was sentenced in May to 15 years in federal prison. She also pleaded guilty but mentally ill in state court to conspiracy to commit aggravated kidnapping in an attempt to kidnap Smart's cousin a month after Smart was kidnapped. She was given a sentence of one to 15 years, to be served concurrently with the federal sentence, and given credit for the seven years she had spent in custody.

As part of her plea agreement, Barzee agreed to cooperate in the state and federal cases against her husband. However, her name does not appear on a witness list filed by federal prosecutors -- and does appear on a list of witnesses filed by the defense.

Smart, her mother and her younger sister, Mary Katherine -- who was sleeping in the room with Smart the night of the kidnapping and was the only witness -- all appear on the prosecution's witness list.

Mitchell's attorneys attempted to move his trial, saying it should be held outside of Utah because publicity in the case had prejudiced the pool of potential jurors against him and jeopardized his right to a fair trial.

Kimball denied that request in August, and defense attorneys appealed his ruling to the 10th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in Denver, Colorado. A three-judge panel on the appeals court denied the request last week, saying it was premature since jury selection had not taken place.

"It is possible that a jury could be seated where all the jurors would satisfy Mr. Mitchell's view of impartiality," the 10th Circuit ruling said.

Defense attorneys in July said in court documents that they intend to utilize an insanity defense and intend to introduce expert testimony relating to an alleged mental disease or defect.

Now 22, Smart testified as part of Mitchell's competency hearing last year that after taking her -- still dressed in her red pajamas -- from her home, Mitchell took her to a wooded area behind her home and performed a mock marriage ceremony with her before sexually assaulting her. She testified he repeatedly assaulted her during her months in captivity, and that he and Barzee took her to California before returning with her to Utah.

The federal court summoned 600 jurors to fill out a preliminary juror questionnaire in the case, according to court documents. About 500 potential jurors attended the sessions on September 30 and October 1. Some were released on hardship grounds, the documents said, but about 330 jurors completed the questionnaire.

Kimball narrowed that number down to slightly more than 200 potential jurors, according to The Salt Lake Tribune newspaper.

David, I'm not sure that arming elderly women--
women in their 70's, 80's and 90's--who may have diminished reaction times,
impaired eyesight and hearing, and problems with motor coordination
or eye-hand coordination, not to mention cognitive problems--is a very realistic idea,

particularly if these women have not used a gun before.
But I get your point.

The best way to make women rape-proof is to stop people from raping.

First if is a revolver as I do not trust any automatic not to jam
at the worst possible moment even the colt model 1911A 45.

It is loaded with hollow-point rounds

and she is a very good shot with a very cool manner in any emergency situation.

I myself prefer my Smith and Western model 19 357
but her 38 should deal with the most likely home situations.

I wish that on the nite of the kidnapping,
Elizabeth had grabbed up a large caliber revolver and shot him some place important.





David

I wish that on the nite of the kidnapping,
Elizabeth had grabbed up a large caliber revolver and shot him some place important.





David

The thing about that is, how would that have affected her? It's the proverbial "between a rock and a hard place" situation. Crime, no matter what the type, has a long-reaching arm, doesn't it? I'm keeping her in my prayers. She has been strong so far and I'm praying she stays that way.

FIREFLY: Fear not that I will hi-jack your thread.
I 'll stop discussing guns as soon as u say so.

British woman 'was raped by priest'
(UKPA) – 7 hours ago
November 1, 2010

A British woman spoke out about her rape ordeal at the hands of a priest, during a protest by clergy sex abuse victims near the Vatican.

Sue Cox, 63, from Warwickshire, was among around 100 survivors from a dozen countries, including Italy, the US, Ireland, the Netherlands and Australia, at Sunday's candlelit protest.

Italian paramilitary police blocked a boulevard leading to the Vatican to prevent marchers reaching St Peter's Square, but later allowed two protesters to leave letters from victims at the Holy See's doorstep.

The two also left a dozen stones near the obelisk in St Peter's square to mark a symbolic path so other survivors might know they had company in their suffering.

At a briefing before the march, Ms Cox was among participants who stood up one by one to tell how their lives had been destroyed by the abuse they suffered as children.

"For 50 years I thought I was the only person in the entire world that had been abused by a Catholic priest," she said. Ms Cox clarified herself "raped by a Catholic priest, not abused, because what he did was rape me and rape is different".

"It's taken 50 years for me to find my voice. But now I've found it, I want to continue to speak on behalf of people who maybe aren't able to speak or have not yet been able to face the fear and the guilt and shame that survivors feel."

The candlelit protest was the first significant demonstration in the shadow of the Vatican by people who had been raped and molested by priests as children. Organisers said it would be repeated until the Holy See took decisive action to ensure children were safe.

"Today what began as quiet whispers are whispers no more," organiser Gary Bergeron told the crowd, which included around 55 Italians from a notorious Catholic institute for the deaf in Verona where dozens of students said they were raped by priests.

Despite Vatican spokesman the Rev Federico Lombardi being unable to greet the organisers at the protest, Mr Bergeron met Mr Lombardi later inside his Vatican office and told him that abuse survivors had been "waiting a lifetime to be able to stand up and speak out".
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ukpress/article/ALeqM5i-_FI6qtAf9hSYu54HKr3oTPnjsw?docId=N0086791288593363300A

You know Hawkeye it is sad and amusing that at the very moment that reported rapes/sexual assaults is at a thirty years low is the time that we also have people like Firefly running madly around trying to convict us otherwise.

Hawkeye all crimes are dropping and beside longer sentences and locking up at any given time two percents of our total male population the most of any major country by far, the population is also aging out of the prime crime ages.

I have to compliment the rape feminists on their successful manipulation program, but wallowing in delusion does get old.

I am not reading anything they post. They aren't going to change, firefly.