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Hey, Can A Woman "Ask To Get Raped"?

 
 
BillRM
 
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Reply Sun 31 Oct, 2010 11:52 am
@OmSigDAVID,
First if is a revolver as I do not trust any automatic not to jam at the worst possible moment even the colt model 1911A 45.

It is loaded with hollow-point rounds and she is a very good shot with a very cool manner in any emergency situation.

I myself prefer my Smith and Western model 19 357 but her 38 should deal with the most likely home situations.
BillRM
 
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Reply Sun 31 Oct, 2010 12:07 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
One other note the 38 is the last layer of protection as we have a state of the art alarm system and if she have any warning at all by way of the alarm system or otherwise there is a short barrel riot shotgun in the bedroom closet kept fully ready to rock and roll.
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BillRM
 
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Reply Sun 31 Oct, 2010 12:38 pm
@firefly,
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David, I'm not sure that arming elderly women--women in their 70's, 80's and 90's--who may have diminished reaction times, impaired eyesight and hearing, and problems with motor coordination or eye-hand coordination, not to mention cognitive problems--is a very realistic idea, particularly if these women have not used a gun before. But I get your point.


Firefly my step daughter does not wish to have a firearm in her home due to her young boy so instead of a lethal weapon she have what look like a small fire extinguish that is design to deal with an annoy and angry three to four hundred pounds brown or black bear. It is full of a very large amount of pepper spray under high pressure.

Cannot kill anyone but after being hit with this anti-bear device it is unlikely that anyone is still going to be interested in anything but getting to a large amount of water.

Most camping stores have this for sale and likely to have it under lock and key as the one we went to in order to buy it told us how kids got a hold of one and as a result they needed to shut the whole store down for over a day.
firefly
 
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Reply Sun 31 Oct, 2010 12:46 pm
@BillRM,
That's still not very realistic for a very elderly woman to use.

BillRM
 
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Reply Sun 31 Oct, 2010 12:51 pm
@firefly,
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That's still not very realistic for a very elderly woman to use.


I do not know what you consider a very elderly woman however my mother is 89 and until six months ago was driving and would have no problem with dealing with such a device.

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firefly
 
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Reply Sun 31 Oct, 2010 05:10 pm
Most very elderly women are raped in their own homes. These 4 stories were among several more involving very elderly women which have been in the news recently.

This one was an attempted rape by an acquaintance...the victim is 85.
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Man Arrested For Robbing and Trying To Rape An Elderly Woman
Holly Zuluaga
Oct 26, 2010

PROSSER -- An elderly woman is nearly raped in her own home.

Deputies say a neighbor broke into the woman's home, stole from her, and tried to rape her.

"I can't imagine an attempt on an older woman that's just kind of like sick," Judy Shepherd, a neighbor said.

There's no other way to describe it, just plain sick, and neighbors are shaken.

The Benton County Sheriff's Department blames the attack on an 18 year old neighbor.

They say he broke into an 85-year old woman's home along a rural road in Prosser.

Not only is the victim elderly, but she's also disabled from Polio as a child.

It wasn't just her money stolen, she also lost her only lifeline.

The Benton County Sheriff's Department says that woman had no way to get contact with the outside world since he stole her cell phone so she had to wait for her daughter to get home.

"I mean, I'm stunned! I hadn't heard about it and it just blows me away thinking it's right here in our neighborhood," Judy Shepherd said.

Neighbors Action News talked to hadn't heard the news yet, but were shocked.

Judy Shepherd worries because she's home alone during the day.

She told me their streets have had problems with break-ins in the past, but never something this brutal.

"It really is a surprise to us," Judy Shepherd said.

What's more frightening is that police say the suspect lived right next door to the victim and knew she was an easy target.

Police say when they found Gilbert Madrigal, he had the woman's cell phone.

She also identified him out of a photo lineup.

A disturbing crime that has shaken a quiet street in the country.

The sheriff's department says Gilbert Madrigal is being charged with attempted rape and robbery and is now in jail.

He's been arrested in California before this, and was also busted for some minor stuff locally.
http://www.keprtv.com/news/local/105733803.html


This 89 year old woman was raped by 2 of the three males who broke into her home. At the time, one was 14 and one was 15 years old. They will both spend the next 30 years in prison.
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3 sentenced in rape, robbery of elderly woman
The Associated Press
October 22, 2010

PORT RICHEY, Fla. -- Three young men convicted in the rape and robbery of an 89-year-old woman at her Pasco County home have all received long prison sentences.

A judge sentenced all three on Friday.

Authorities say 17-year-old Carlos Fernandez, 16-year-old Luis Reyes Jr. and 22-year-old Johnathan Rodriguez broke into the woman's home in April 2009, assaulted the woman in bed and ransacked her home. The woman, who was severely bruised in the attack, told authorities someone held a pillow over her face.

Fernandez and Reyes each received 30 years. They had both previously pleaded no contest to two counts of sexual battery, one count of home invasion robbery and six counts of burglary.

Rodriguez, who prosecutors believe participated in the break-in but not the attack, received 20 years in a plea deal.
http://www.miamiherald.com/2010/10/22/1886815/3-sentenced-in-rape-robbery-of.html


Another man, who just took a plea deal, will spend the next 20-25 years in prison for raping a 92 year old woman...
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The man charged with the rape of an eldery Monroe County woman has pleaded guilty.
October 19, 2010

According to the Monroe County Criminal Court Clerk's office, Franciso Barbosa Sanchez pleaded guilty to aggravated rape and aggravated burglary in the 2008 attack.

He will serve a total of 25 years- 20 for the rape and 5 for the burglary.

According to police, Barbosa moved to Tellico Plains several months ago and was living in the United States illegally.

Witnesses told investigators that the suspect would spend the night inside his brother's trailer often, which is close to the elderly victim's residence.

"On the particular night the crime had occurred, he had been there that night," said Police Chief Bill Isbell while addressing the media during Saturday afternoon press conference.

Investigators said they captured Barbosa's DNA from a straw that he used with a drink.

"That evidence went to our crime lab and we have a very strong connection, a sufficient connection that we've been able to establish probable cause," said Chief Isbell.

The elderly victim, according to Tellico Plains Police Department, is recovering from the attack. Officers gathered at the victim's home Saturday morning to tell her the latest news.

"We got to go this morning," said Chief Isbell. "Detective Norwood held her hand while we told her we have identified who did this to you. Her response was--praise God. And we said--yes."

Chief Isbell believes Barbosa thought he had killed the victim during the attack. The victim told police that the suspect tried to smother her.

"When she woke up, she had a pillow over her face and the subject was on top of her attempting to suffocate her," Chief Isbell said while describing the attack. "Our victim had enough presence of mind to fake like she had passed out."
http://www.wbir.com/news/article/57847/2/Update-Man-charged-with-raping-92-year-old-woman-pleads-guilty


And DNA linked this man to the rape of an 87 year old woman.

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DNA links felon to unsolved rape case
2005 rape of elderly woman tied to Santa Rosan convicted of raping teen
By JULIE JOHNSON
THE PRESS DEMOCRAT
October 25, 2010 at 7:38 p.m.

A Santa Rosa man serving 25 years to life for raping a 15-year-old girl was linked by DNA evidence to the unsolved 2005 sexual assault of an 87-year-old woman.

Kevin Marquice Coulter Anthony, 24, will be arraigned Tuesday on suspicion of the Oct. 20, 2005, rape, Sonoma County Assistant District Attorney Diana Gomez said.

The woman was assaulted in her West College Avenue home in the early morning hours. A man wearing a black ski mask entered through an open door and crept up behind her in her kitchen, Santa Rosa police said.

Armed with a knife, he dragged her into the garage and raped her. She broke her wrist when he pushed her down a set of stairs, Gomez said.

Detectives had few leads to follow, Santa Rosa Police Sgt. John Snetsinger said Monday. The woman didn't see the man's face and had few descriptive details. The trail went cold.

But in July, the state's DNA database linked a sample submitted by Anthony when he entered prison with DNA gathered at the scene of two other Sonoma County rapes that occurred during the fall of 2005, Snetsinger said.

Such “cold hits,” as the database connections are called, aren't enough on their own to convict a person, but they provide investigators with new leads to follow.

In Anthony's case, the evidence suggests he may be responsible for sexual assaults that at first glance shared few similarities.

“We didn't see the connection between these cases,” Snetsinger said.

Anthony was armed with a knife on Nov. 17, 2005, when he entered a northwest Santa Rosa apartment complex through an unlocked door and brutally raped a 15-year-old girl as her family slept. He was convicted Feb. 1, 2007, of rape with multiple sentencing enhancements, including being a gang member and intimidating a witness.

The man who raped the 87-year-old woman just weeks before Anthony's arrest also entered the home through an unlocked door and was armed with a knife.

The third case linked to Anthony involved a woman in her 40s. The woman has since died of unrelated causes, and the district attorney's office won't file charges without a witness, Gomez said.

Anthony was brought to Sonoma County from Kern Valley State Prison and on Tuesday will be charged with rape, committing a crime against an elderly person, causing great bodily injury and using a knife, Gomez said.

“It's absolutely remarkable that we can solve a cold case because of modern technology,” Gomez said. “It's tremendously difficult for victims to wonder if their perpetrator is still out there.”
http://www.pressdemocrat.com/article/20101025/ARTICLES/101029675/1350?p=all&tc=pgall
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sun 31 Oct, 2010 05:15 pm
@firefly,
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Most very elderly women are raped in their own homes. These 4 stories were among several more involving very elderly women which have been in the news recently.

the average rape victim is 22, so I dont figure we need to get too worked up about the rape of old ladies...it is rare.
JPB
 
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Reply Sun 31 Oct, 2010 05:25 pm
@firefly,
Most very elderly women are raped in their homes?!?!? I don't believe for a second that most elderly women are raped anywhere.
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sun 31 Oct, 2010 05:34 pm
@hawkeye10,
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Sexual Assault in Alabama 2005

• In 2005, there were 1,515 rapes reported. (4 each day).
• 46% of the reported rapes were juvenile victims (under age 17).
Only 36% of all the rapes committed were reported to law enforcement.
• This means the actual number of rapes in 2005 was 4,197 (11 each day).
• 68% of rape victims knew their offender.
The age of the victims ranged from 2 to 80, with the average age being 21
http://www.turningpointservices.org/Sexual%20Assault%20-%20Statistics.htm

BTW..by my calculation that means that if we assume that each woman is only raped once (which we know is very much not true because victims are detected by abusers and so the same victims get raped multiple times often) a woman in Alabama had a .173% chance of getting raped in 2005. Assuming a 60 year life that makes a 10% chance on getting raped in their lifetimes. remember, this is based upon the rape feminists guess as to how many rapes happen, which is almost certainly wildly inflated. When you factor in the multiples I figure the a woman's real chance of getting raped in their lifetime in somewhere around 5%. Not exactly the advertised, which tends to run around 30% and upwards.
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firefly
 
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Reply Sun 31 Oct, 2010 05:38 pm
@hawkeye10,
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the average rape victim is 22, so I dont figure we need to get too worked up about the rape of old ladies...it is rare.


You don't show much concern for any rape victims, so I wouldn't expect you to "get too worked up" about the extremely elderly women who are raped. Statistics seem to matter to you more than human beings. Athough, given the smaller numbers of people in their late 80's and in their 90's, particularly living alone, I'm not so sure this is so rare in that group. Rapes of very elderly women are rather consistently in the news. More to the point, women of any age, including the extremely elderly, continue to be the victims of rape.
BillRM
 
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Reply Sun 31 Oct, 2010 05:44 pm
@firefly,
Come on Firefly there are over a 100 millions women in the US and right now I do not know the age break but millions of 90 plus women at a guess are alive in the US population at any given time.

The likelihood of any elderly woman being raped is about the same as the likelihood of her being hit by a lightening bolt or less.

It make as must sense to post stories of older women being kill by those lightening bolts then posting stories of elderly women being rape.

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BillRM
 
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Reply Sun 31 Oct, 2010 05:50 pm
@firefly,
Lord an elderly women being rape made for "great" headlines and is reported because it is rare and outrageous not because it is common.

What is your program Firefly to frighten older women about a rare and unlikely event or to convict the population that elderly women are at great risk of sexual assaults?

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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sun 31 Oct, 2010 05:53 pm
@firefly,
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Rapes of very elderly women are rather consistently in the news
and "journalitic" media is held in very low esteem in America in large part because we have gone though the last couple a decades during which time it has become clear that our news is highly sensationalized and divorced from reality.

However, science telling us that the average rape victim is 22 YO is something that is real, something that we can use to get our minds around what the actual rape situation in America is.
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Arella Mae
 
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Reply Sun 31 Oct, 2010 06:16 pm
@firefly,
Raping the elderly is just as sick as raping children as far as I am concerned.

JPB I think firefly meant (and she can correct me if I am wrong) that OF the elderly women that are raped, they are most often raped in their homes.
BillRM
 
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Reply Sun 31 Oct, 2010 06:23 pm
@Arella Mae,
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JPB I think firefly meant (and she can correct me if I am wrong) that OF the elderly women that are raped, they are most often raped in their homes.


Where do you think that they are going to be rape out night clubbing or on a date?

Most elderly women are not alone except in their homes for that matter.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sun 31 Oct, 2010 06:44 pm
@BillRM,
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Where do you think that they are going to be rape out night clubbing or on a date?

Most elderly women are not alone except in their homes for that matter.
you are both wrong

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During a three year study of elder sexual abuse, 16.7% of elder sexual abuse victims lived with family members while the majority (83.3%) lived in a nursing home or other adult care facility
http://www.pcar.org/elder-sexual-abuse
BillRM
 
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Reply Sun 31 Oct, 2010 06:45 pm
http://dartcenter.org/content/violence-comparing-reporting-and-reality
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Reports of crime don’t match actual rates of crime.:

From 1993 to 1994, public perception of crime as the most important problem in the U.S. jumped from a 9% endorsement to a 37% endorsement that remained considerably high for several years. The increase in perception may be due, at least in part, to the way in which crime news is delivered to the public; whereas perception of crime as a major problem rose, the actual crime rates did not (Lowry, Nio, & Leitner, 2003).
Approximately half of crime news in New Orleans focused on homicide in 1981, while only 0.4% of the total crimes committed were actually homicides (Sheley & Ashkins, 1981).
Among crime stories in Chicago’s The Tribune in the early 1980’s, 26% were about murder, while only 0.2% of crimes known to police were murder. Conversely, theft news made up only 3% of crime stories, but accounted for a dramatically larger percentage of reported crimes (36%) compared to homicide (Howitt, 1998).
In Los Angeles, 80% of local murders were reported in the LA Times, while only 2% of local physical and sexual assaults were reported, misrepresenting the relative frequency of the types of crime that actually occured (Dorfman, Thorson, & Stevens, 2001).
A content analysis of 175 crime-related articles in Time magazine, taken from selected years (1953, 1958, 1975, 1979, & 1982), showed that although 73% of the stories concerned violent crime, only a minority of crimes reported to police (10%) actually involved violence (Barlow, Barlow, & Chiricos, 1995).
The least common types of homicides received the most news coverage in Los Angeles County from 1990-1994. Specifically, homicides of women, children, and the elderly, and homicides involving multiple victims were reported more often than homicides involving one young or middle-aged adult. Actual crime rates showed that the majority of homicide victims were males between the ages of 15-34 with only one victim involved. Furthermore, gender, age, socioeconomic status, and relationship biases were found in homicide coverage (Sorenson, Manz, & Berk, 1998).
While only 6% of crime in Great Britain is violent crime, a study of 10 popular British dailies showed that more than 2/3 of the crime news is devoted to violent crime (Smith, 1984).
Content analysis of all national British press and television news reports of child sexual abuse during in 1991, revealed a disproportionate amount of coverage focused on abuse outside the home.
83% of the news coverage focused on events surrounding a particular stranger abduction/murder case that occurred that year, rather than more general and common forms of child sexual abuse within families.
Although sexual assault against children is most often perpetrated by someone the child knows, 96% of newspaper articles highlighted ways to protect children from stranger’s threats. Only 4% mention the more likely scenario of abuse by relatives (as cited in Kitzinger, 2004).
47 news items focused on strangers and staff in schools or community/residential homes, while only 2 items focused on family members.
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Conclusions
Newspaper coverage of crime is not reflective of actual crime rates. Biases of gender, age, race, socioeconomic status, and relationship status are documented in several publications. Evidence suggests that such biases influence public perception of perpetrators and victims. Repeated exposure to unbalanced information appears to lead consumers to perceive higher risk and feel greater fear of falling victim to violent criminal activity.

The consequences of skewed perceptions on public opinion and public policy decisions are documented, but more studies are needed to understand this phenomenon. For instance, how does disproportionate coverage of sexual assault affect society’s views toward victims? How does it influence how violence is understood? Further research needs to examine these issues in relation to crime and disaster. Journalists and editors may want to consider the effects of their coverage and the balance they wish to achieve with their stories.

Educating journalists on the impact of coverage and opportunities for providing balance and context in their stories may lead to more accurate information and careful planning in news coverage of crime and violence.

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firefly
 
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Reply Sun 31 Oct, 2010 06:56 pm
@Arella Mae,
Arella Mae, don't you just love the way the trolls decide that some rape victims, like the elderly and the very elderly, aren't even worth mentioning.

Do you think any rape statistics matter to a woman who has been raped? Do you think the statistics make any woman feel safe from the possibility of ever being raped?
BillRM
 
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Reply Sun 31 Oct, 2010 06:56 pm
@hawkeye10,
Hawkeye I am surprise at you using as a source of information a feminist anti-rape website.

Such websites in the past have not proven to be good sources of reliable statistics to say the least in any area of sexual assaults.

BillRM
 
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Reply Sun 31 Oct, 2010 07:01 pm
@firefly,
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Do you think the statistics make any woman feel safe from the possibility of ever being raped?


Of course Firefly it is a wonderful idea to cause unneeded fear in any group of people especially in the elderly.

Yes we should cause elderly women to be as fearful as possible of rare events as that will surely be a benefit to them.


 

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