Hey, Can A Woman "Ask To Get Raped"?

@Arella Mae,

Sorry AM that will not wash and the one thing that I do not think you can explain is the one bit of very hard evidence that there is not question about is the reported numbers from the FBI of sexual assaults as of 2008 is at the lowest point in the last 29 years and yet you had not express any happiness about that fact at all.

You seem to have a need to rejected any good news in this area out of hands and that is odd if you do not have a purpose along with Firefly that have nothing to do with the problem of others women and sexual assaults.

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@BillRM,

Of course it is a good thing that rapes were down in 2008. The only thing is, this is 2010.

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@Arella Mae,

Yes you had said that and as far as I know the figures for the year 2009 have not been released as yet however there had been a downward tend over at least 15 years and there is zero reason to think that the 2009 numbers will not be better yet.

So as the figures for sexual assaults from the FBI will alway be a year or so behind then by your logic theses reports will never had any meaning for you as they will never be current.

So when the 2009 numbers are released they will be meaningless to you as we are in 2010?

They are the best figures we had at the moment as far as I know.

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@BillRM,

Let me put this as kindly to you as I can. I do not care to discuss this issue with you any longer. I get angry and then I say things I should not say and that is not the right thing to do. It has also caused some problems along the thread and I really don't want to be part of the problem.

You take care!

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@Arella Mae,

AM I will give you and others the happy news that the 2009 numbers are better then the 2008 by 3.4 percent.

You are proving my point because to me as if you did care about the subject of sexual assault and the welfare of women you would not give a **** who gave you the good news now would you?

Now why are you not happy that for all it short comings the FBI numbers are the best numbers we have and are still showing a decline in reported sexual assaults?

Somehow if the numbers would have been going the other way I am of the opinion that you would had been pounding the drum over that fact

http://www2.fbi.gov/ucr/cius2009/offenses/violent_crime/forcible_rape.html

Overview
In 2009, the number of forcible rapes was estimated at 88,097. By comparison, the estimated volume of rapes for 2009 was 2.6 percent lower than the 2008 estimate, 6.6 percent lower than the 2005 number, and 2.3 percent below the 2000 level. (See Tables 1 and 1A.)
The rate of forcible rapes in 2009 was estimated at 56.6 per 100,000 female inhabitants, a 3.4 percent decrease when compared with the 2008 estimated rate of 58.6.
Rapes by force comprised 93.0 percent of reported rape offenses in 2009, and attempts or assaults to commit rape accounted for 7.0 percent of reported rapes. (Based on Tab

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@firefly,

This seems to be a pretty interesting study. Thought you might like to read it. It describes exactly how the study was done and answers a lot of questions I think we've been asking on this thread, re: definitions.

http://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/nij/grants/219181.pdf

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@Arella Mae,

I'm not sure he realizes that we simply do want to discuss the topic with him any longer.

I can't say I feel like doing handsprings over the fact that the forcible rape statistics have decreased slightly. It really doesn't make me feel one bit safer from the possibility of being raped.

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@Izzie,

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Re: Arella Mae (Post 4393242)
edit: this may be the post you are looking for...

http://able2know.org/topic/158723-140#post-4351261

AM, I think you are thinking of something Bill said, not me. However, if you read his post you will see clearly that he was confused, he did not realize that what BBB said was about herself. If you want to dump on Bill you should in my opinion confine your criticism to his inability to comprehend, not claim that he was trying to be hurtful towards BBB. Bill has already apologized, though it was weaker than I would have liked to see.

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There are many political candidates this year who oppose abortion even in cases of incest and rape. This man raped and impregnated an 11 year old (although some news stories say she was 12). This child had her baby, but I'm not sure I would force another 11 or 12 year old child to give birth to a baby that was the result of rape or incest if that was not her choice. I am interested in how others feel about allowing abortion in such circumstances.

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Thompson pleads guilty to rape charge
By Matt Gryta
News Staff Reporter
October 26, 2010

Edtition Thompson, though under a suicide watch at the Erie County Holding Center, pleaded guilty Monday to a reduced charge of first-degree rape for repeatedly raping and impregnating a friend's 11-year-old daughter three years ago.

Moments after State Supreme Court Justice John L. Michalski concurred with a court-appointed psychiatrist who found him competent to stand trial, Thompson, 34, pleaded guilty to raping the girl frequently between Oct. 15, 2007, and Dec. 15, 2007.

The father of 13 children, Thompson -- whose relatives once faked his funeral to try to fool police -- has twice attempted suicide in the Holding Center since his capture in California last year.

But shortly before his guilty plea, the judge ordered Dr. Ana N. Cervantes to the witness stand, even though defense attorney Joseph J. Terranova told him Thompson felt he was mentally competent. Terranova told the judge he had advised Thompson that the hearing was legally necessary because of his jail suicide attempts.

Cervantes, a consultant for the Erie County Mental Health Service, testified that she found Thompson "mentally competent" to stand trial and assist in his own defense, which is all that state criminal law demands.

At the request of Rosanne Eimer Johnson, chief of the district attorney's Special Crimes Bureau, the judge agreed to impose a sentence of 17 to 20 years on Thompson's guilty plea. He returns to court for sentencing Feb. 16.

Terranova later said that his client, who had faced a mandatory life sentence if convicted at trial of predatory sexual offense against a child, took the plea "to spare his family from a trial."

Erie County District Attorney Frank A. Sedita III said the plea was offered with the consent of the victim's family in order to spare the girl the trauma of a trial.

Thompson was briefly hospitalized in a psychiatric unit after trying to hang himself by tying a bed sheet on the bars of his cell in an older unit at the Holding Center on June 13, and was on life-support briefly at Buffalo General Hospital.

Thompson was also found hanging in a jail cell in April 2009, but Sheriff Timothy B. Howard questioned the seriousness of that attempt, noting Thompson had faked having a heart attack when authorities returned him from Sacramento, Calif., earlier that month.

On March 2, 2009, Thompson's family held a memorial service for him in Forest Lawn, which authorities saw as an attempt to throw them off his trial. He was arrested days later in the California state capital.

Thompson fled to California in the summer of 2008 after DNA tests confirmed that he was the father of the baby born to the daughter of one of his Buffalo girlfriends.
http://www.buffalonews.com/city/police-courts/courts/article231621.ece

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@Arella Mae,

Arella Mae, I'd like to read that study, but, when I click on the link, the page does not load.

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@BillRM,

BillRM wrote:

In 2009, the number of forcible rapes was estimated at 88,097.

Isn't 1 too many?

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@BillRM,

BillRM wrote:

So when the 2009 numbers are released they will be meaningless to you as we are in 2010?

That's a fair question.

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@firefly,

firefly wrote:

There are many political candidates this year who oppose abortion even in cases of incest and rape. This man raped and impregnated an 11 year old (although some news stories say she was 12). This child had her baby, but I'm not sure I would force another 11 or 12 year old child to give birth to a baby that was the result of rape or incest if that was not her choice. I am interested in how others feel about allowing abortion in such circumstances.

It shoud ALWAYS be the autonomous choice of the mother, of any age.

David

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@ehBeth,

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Isn't 1 too many?

sure, but when the proposed fix involves violating the individual rights of every single American it needs to be remembered that every year .06% of females are raped. My calculation has it that out of every 2000 women 1 woman will be raped this year. This is hardly the reality that is advertised by the rape feminists. I think we need to keep in mind that we are talking about impeding the rights of 4000 Americans in our effort to keep 1 American from being raped this year. There needs to be a cost/benefit evaluation made.

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@hawkeye10,

What rights of yours are being impeded in order to protect people fom being raped?

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@BillRM,

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AM I will give you and others the happy news that the 2009 numbers are better then the 2008 by 3.4 percent.

You trumpet these results like it's a report from Allstate showing a decline in fender benders.
I'm sure the other 85,000 rape victims could give a **** about the 3.4% reduction.

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Somehow if the numbers would have been going the other way I am of the opinion that you would had been pounding the drum over that fact

It's statements like that, callous and disingenuous, that make you so reviled here.

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@firefly,

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What rights of yours are being impeded in order to protect people fom being raped?

My sexual freedom, free from the tyranny of the state.

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The only sexual freedom you can allege would be impeded is the right to forcible sexual assault--rape. My heart just aches for you, Rapist Boy.

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@ehBeth,

One rape in the whole world is one too many but setting up programs that pretend that the problem is tens of times greater then it is, is not helpful.

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@BillRM,

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One rape in the whole world is one too many but setting up programs that pretend that the problem is tens of times greater then it is, is not helpful

Tens?? I think we are up to hundreds at least Bill.....

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