Hey, Can A Woman "Ask To Get Raped"?

@firefly,

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Sexual Intercourse: the penetration of the penis into the vagina, however slight-- in other words, if the penis goes into the vagina just a little, not in its entirety, that is considered completed "sexual intercourse". (There is no requirement of physical injury and usually there is no requirement that ejaculation or orgasm have occurred.) http://www.svfreenyc.org/survivors_legal.html

Some states may also require ejaculation inside the female, or completed sexual intercourse.

Where do you all get this misinformation??????

Most states once more do not even used the term rape but sexual assault or sexual battery and it is define in fairly sexual neutral terms.

Nevada defined for example penetration as all kind of sex including using the tongue on the sex organs.

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Another rape of a college student, despite the fact that some here keep trying to deny that this crime goes on with alarming frequency.

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Police looking for alleged I.U. rapist
Posted: Oct 04, 2010 9:55 AM EDT

The Indiana University Police Department is looking for a man they say raped a 19-year-old student.

According to a press release obtained by Fox 41 News, the woman approached I.U. Police early Saturday morning. She said she met three white males at a party at an off-campus home near 7th and Bryan in Bloomington.

The driver told her he was an I.U. student and the two other men were visiting from Purdue.

The woman said the trio took her to another house, claiming to be en route to a second party. At this point, the woman claims she was sexually assaulted by the driver.

He is described as a white male, 6'-2" tall, with muscular build and weighing 250 lbs. He is approximately 20- years-old, with brown hair and a "scruffy" beard.
http://www.fox41.com/Global/story.asp?S=13262685

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@firefly,

New York is amazing as in all the other states I had check the word rape is not even used and they have a paragraph not a book on the subject of sexual assault however even in NY they are careful to set up a difference standard for someone who had gotten intoxicated themselves to being administered drugs or alcohol behind their back.

You need to be way out of it if you had administered the drugs and the alcohol to yourself.

As in that a person is unconscious or for any other reason is physically unable to communicate unwillingness to an
act.

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In any case even in New York they 6. "Mentally incapacitated" means that a person is rendered
temporarily incapable of appraising or controlling his conduct owing to
the influence of a narcotic or intoxicating substance administered to
him without his consent, or to any other act committed upon him without
his consent.
7. "Physically helpless" means that a person is unconscious or for any
other reason is physically unable to communicate unwillingness to an
act.

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@BillRM,

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Hawkeye it going to be very very interesting if as in Israel the courts will begin to rule that if a man gain consent for a sexual relationship by lying about some fact or other that as if by magic a consensual sex act is turn into rape

I'd hazard a guess that consent theory could be driven far enough to criminalize a huge chunk of the sex that will take place Monday Oct 4 2011.....the question is though, why would we want to? Another question: Why did we ever go down this road to begin with? There was no need, the older rape laws and the laws against assault were good enough three decades ago to deal with what ever real problem with rape that we have. The courts did not do very well using the laws that they had, but reform of the courts on sex law did not ever need to become a full blown assault on individual rights, did not need to become a tool for the suppression of males in favor of females. The courts job is the promote justice with fairness to all citizens, it is not to pick winners and losers on moral grounds.....the government has no mandate to impose the chosen morality, only to encourage it upon the consent of the majority.

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@firefly,

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keep trying to deny that this crime goes on with alarming frequency.

Alarming frequency is a nice and unclear term however the rate is nowhere near 25 percents of all female students in four years!!!!!!

Are you still trying to sell that nonsense or not?

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@BillRM,

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Alarming frequency is a nice and unclear term however the rate is nowhere near 25 percents of all female students in four years!!!!!!

the rape feminists have zero credibility, so this number should be ignored. However, we do need to find out what the real situation is. we should get some numbers, using a reasonable definition for rape, and we should make sure that any conclusions reached take into consideration both the drop our rate and the fact that the majority of students now take 5 years to graduate. I am fairly confident, considering how fast and loose the rape feminists are with the truth, that once we dug into their assumptions that we would find significant whoopers.

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@hawkeye10,

To give an idea how little we know about sex, and how little we want to know, there was just a major study released, the first since 1994. The 94 study was supposed to be funded by the government but funding was shut down by Congress, so it was finished with funding from charity.

The rape feminists have loads of money, thanks to VAWA, and one would think that if they assumed that the facts would back them up that they would fund some studies on aggression in human sexuality, but NOOOOOO, they dont. Facts would get in the way of their clap-trap arguments

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Filling 130 pages of a special issue of the Journal of Sexual Medicine, the study offers detailed findings on how often Americans have sex, with whom, and how they respond. In all, 5,865 people, ranging in age from 14 to 94, participated in the survey.

The lead researchers, from Indiana University's Center for Sexual Health Promotion, said the study fills a void that has grown since the last comparable endeavor — the National Health and Social Life Survey — was published 16 years ago. Major changes since then include the spread of sexually transmitted diseases, the types of sex education available to young people, the advent of same-sex marriage, and the emergence of the Internet as a tool for social interaction.

Dr. Dennis Fortenberry, a pediatrics professor who was lead author of the study's section about teen sex, said the overall findings of such a huge survey should provide reassurance to Americans who are curious about how their sex lives compare with others.

"Unless, like al-Qaida, you feel there's something abnormal about the American people, what these data say is, 'This is normal — everything in there is normal.'

Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2010/10/03/national/a210145D70.DTL#ixzz11QUvuNeT

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@hawkeye10,

I belive Alfred Kinsey

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1948 publication "Sexual Behavior in the Human Male" was one of the first recorded works that saw science address sexual behavior

Quite great work if I understand it right.

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@HexHammer,

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Quite great work if I understand it right.

is it your contention that a study of 1948 sexuality is relevant in 2010??

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@firefly,

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Anyone who is still confused about the issue of whether someone is impaired by alcohol, and that such a person might be legally unable to consent to sex, should find out the specific standards for such intoxication in their state, and the sexual assault laws pertaining to sexual contact with such individuals. In the U.S., sexual assault laws vary from state to state.

You can always contact the D.A, for your county and ask for specific information about the above.

If you are too lazy to do that, you are not interested in learning the answer.

If a person really needs to call the D.A. about this then I would imagine his motives aren't quite right in the first place. But, it is good advice nonetheless.

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@hawkeye10,

hawkeye10 wrote:

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Quite great work if I understand it right.
is it your contention that a study of 1948 sexuality is relevant in 2010??

Has sex changed in the past 62 years?

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@firefly,

firefly wrote:

Another rape of a college student, despite the fact that some here keep trying to deny that this crime goes on with alarming frequency.

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Police looking for alleged I.U. rapist
Posted: Oct 04, 2010 9:55 AM EDT

The Indiana University Police Department is looking for a man they say raped a 19-year-old student.

According to a press release obtained by Fox 41 News, the woman approached I.U. Police early Saturday morning. She said she met three white males at a party at an off-campus home near 7th and Bryan in Bloomington.

The driver told her he was an I.U. student and the two other men were visiting from Purdue.

The woman said the trio took her to another house, claiming to be en route to a second party. At this point, the woman claims she was sexually assaulted by the driver.

He is described as a white male, 6'-2" tall, with muscular build and weighing 250 lbs. He is approximately 20- years-old, with brown hair and a "scruffy" beard.
http://www.fox41.com/Global/story.asp?S=13262685

It's got to be frightening for women on campuses with the kind of rape statistics that are READILY AVAILABLE out there. I know the information you have posted is correct. I've researched it myself. I don't care what those trolls say.

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@Intrepid,

Intrepid wrote:

hawkeye10 wrote:

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Quite great work if I understand it right.
is it your contention that a study of 1948 sexuality is relevant in 2010??

Has sex changed in the past 62 years?

Only in the regard that SOME men have changed to believe they can legally take advantage of an intoxicated woman and think they shouldn't be held accountable for it. Fortunately, it is not the majority that believes that tripe.

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@Intrepid,

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Has sex changed in the past 62 years?

Yes, the top 12 are:

1) the sexual revolution

2) the advent of Birth control

3) women's lib

4) a broad gender role switch/confusion

5) the re emergence's of killer diseases spread through sex

6) the broad break down of the family

7) a massive devaluing of marriage

8) the shift of homosexuality from being a disease to being a somewhat accepted form of sexuality

9) that massive acceptance of using hormone treatments to make tyrannies

10) the advent of gender reassignment surgery

11) the broad move to criminalize sex

12) the wide practice of recreational sex, or at least without the same relationship requirement that was required in the olden days

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@hawkeye10,

Wow!

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@Intrepid,

Of course, Intrepid, none of those things on the list indicates that sexual functioning has changed, in terms of the biological aspects of the human sexual response. Sex is still sex--just as is it was 62 years ago.

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This man began sexually assaulting his daughter when she was 5--the abuse went on for 9 years. Imagine what those 9 years were like for her.

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Convicted Sex Offender Sentenced to Life
Monday, 04 Oct 2010

By MYFOXATLANTA STAFF

PAULDING COUNTY, Ga. - Paulding County authorities say a convicted sex offender has been sentenced to life plus 20 years.

Tommy Lee Strozier -- 53-years old -- was convicted on September 27, 2010 in a Paulding County Courtroom for Rape, Sexual Battery, Aggravated Sodomy, two counts of Aggravated Child Molestation, and Incest involving his biological daughter, say authorities.

The investigation revealed that the abuse began when the victim was 5-years old and had been on going for nine years.

Strozier was sentenced on September 28, 2010, to life + 20 years for the conviction on all of the charges.
http://www.myfoxatlanta.com/dpp/news/local_news/Convicted-Sex-Offender-Sentenced-to-Life-20101004-am-sd

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@firefly,

I don't have to imagine what it was like for her. I know. I will never be able to understand incest. Rape is hard enough to understand but incest is not something I will ever understand. I had to stop trying to understand it because it drove me crazy. My heart breaks for this child.

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@firefly,

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Sex is still sex--just as is it was 62 years ago.

Yes, but we must keep in mind that you are the same person who has said several times that rape has not changed over the years...in other words you are clearly full of ****.

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@firefly,

firefly wrote:

Of course, Intrepid, none of those things on the list indicates that sexual functioning has changed, in terms of the biological aspects of the human sexual response. Sex is still sex--just as is it was 62 years ago.

Yup. That was my point.

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