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Hey, Can A Woman "Ask To Get Raped"?

 
 
Arella Mae
 
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Reply Fri 1 Oct, 2010 07:12 am
@mysteryman,
mysteryman wrote:

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We gotta get them rape kits tested! I know it would cost a lot but how many women would be saved from being raped by getting those animals off the streets?


Of course, there is the flip side to that question also.

How many men convicted of rape would be cleared if those kits are tested??
Oh I agree. It would also eliminate people being falsely convicted. I think testing all rape kits has nothing but benefits.
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Arella Mae
 
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Reply Fri 1 Oct, 2010 07:21 am
@OCCOM BILL,
OCCOM BILL wrote:

Yes, I'm very familiar with some of the Innocent Project's work... but I don't see how the untested rape kits would result in an innocent man being freed. I seriously doubt there's many, if any, convicted rapists who could be exonerated by testing an old rape kit. Paint me a scenario where it wouldn’t have been tested already.
I have to agree with you on this one. Though I believe testing all rape kits will keep innocent men from being convicted I don't see how many in prison now will be exonerated. I would imagine those cases are dwindling-the ones were DNA, now available, prove someone wasn't the rapist due to no DNA testing back then.
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Fri 1 Oct, 2010 07:47 am
@snood,
snood wrote:
Hey, this may have already been covered here - I'm frankly too lazy to read all 160+ pages to find out. but I was wondering what everyone thinks about that Mexican sports reporter female in the NFL locker room saying she was harrassed.

I was trying to follow that news story when it broke, but frankly I became mesmerized by her ample cleavage and did not hear the details of the alleged harassment.
Arella Mae
 
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Reply Fri 1 Oct, 2010 07:50 am
@firefly,
What about the morning after pill? Wouldn't that be a much better solution to pregnancy from rape? Of course, those that don't report it would not benefit. I do not agree anyone should be forced into aborting.
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Arella Mae
 
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Reply Fri 1 Oct, 2010 08:03 am
@snood,
snood wrote:

Hey, this may have already been covered here - I'm frankly too lazy to read all 160+ pages to find out. but I was wondering what everyone thinks about that Mexican sports reporter female in the NFL locker room saying she was harrassed.

I think of myself as fairly enlightened in general, but I can't help turning this scenario around in my mind... If a male reporter who was well built went into a female lacker room of undressed and half dressed female athletes, and that male reporter had on skintight clothing that hugged and exposed him in a way that not much was left for the imagination, would we hear (and would we listen to) any protestations of harrassment? How would that little change in the logistics of the situation change our reactions to it?
This is a good question. Of course, one would hope the proper response would be that women would not do such a thing, but I know that's not exactly reality.

Nice to see ya BTW!
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panzade
 
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Reply Fri 1 Oct, 2010 08:42 am
@snood,
Hey cool breeze. A very good question when you flip the situation.
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OCCOM BILL
 
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Reply Fri 1 Oct, 2010 08:51 am
@BillRM,
Sorry folks; one more troll response seems appropriate.

BillRM wrote:

Oh by the way Occom being a decent and lovable guy I have zero interest in using your name or location as a means to find and annoy either your family or your friends.

I figure any such would have enough problems just having you in their life for me to add to it by annoying them.

But by your own statements from the comfort and safest of your home you wish to do so to my family and friends if you could.

In any case being a brave man and not a lowly coward such as myself I do not see why you are so upset with having a short friendly visit from me.
1. You have zero to worry about me harassing your friends or family. Such chicken **** behavior would be as illegal as it is childish, and were I to commit such an asinine act; I'd have to kick my own ass for retribution. (Of course, we all know it's your fear of your friends and family finding out what a piece of **** you are that's really making you a coward anyway. It has nothing to do with me.)

2. I despise you and the other misogynistic piece of **** and I don't invite people I despise to my home or anywhere else, so if you should show up at my door, unannounced or otherwise, I'd have no choice but to assume your intentions were bad; so you'd probably wake up handcuffed to a hospital bed with a kicked ass and in need of a lawyer. (As if anyone believes this demented coward, who's too terrified to even own his own words, would come anywhere near me. Laughing)

3. Back to simply thumbing down your demented nonsense, for the good of the community.
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OCCOM BILL
 
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Reply Fri 1 Oct, 2010 09:07 am
@snood,
snood wrote:

Hey, this may have already been covered here - I'm frankly too lazy to read all 160+ pages to find out. but I was wondering what everyone thinks about that Mexican sports reporter female in the NFL locker room saying she was harrassed.

I think of myself as fairly enlightened in general, but I can't help turning this scenario around in my mind... If a male reporter who was well built went into a female lacker room of undressed and half dressed female athletes, and that male reporter had on skintight clothing that hugged and exposed him in a way that not much was left for the imagination, would we hear (and would we listen to) any protestations of harrassment? How would that little change in the logistics of the situation change our reactions to it?
I don't see your dilemma. Her costume, for lack of a better word, is part of how she chooses to make her living. I don't see how any outfit she chooses to wear should lower the expectation of decency from employees of the NFL. FYI, every owner/employee of anything NFL related can be fined by the NFL should they do anything the NFL considers detrimental to the reputation of the NFL (even us lowly shareholders). For that reason alone, the players should behaved themselves in a manner that would offend no parent with children of any age... just as a matter of common sense.

Moreover, a pretty girl in a sexy outfit in any venue (save maybe a strip club or brothel) is entitled to no less respect simply because some Neanderthals find her attractive.
OCCOM BILL
 
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Reply Fri 1 Oct, 2010 09:08 am
@Ticomaya,
Laughing
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Arella Mae
 
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Reply Fri 1 Oct, 2010 09:59 am
@Ticomaya,
Ticomaya wrote:

snood wrote:
Hey, this may have already been covered here - I'm frankly too lazy to read all 160+ pages to find out. but I was wondering what everyone thinks about that Mexican sports reporter female in the NFL locker room saying she was harrassed.

I was trying to follow that news story when it broke, but frankly I became mesmerized by her ample cleavage and did not hear the details of the alleged harassment.
Hey Tico! I haven't seen you in awhile. I pray all is well with you.
Ticomaya
 
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Reply Fri 1 Oct, 2010 11:22 am
@Arella Mae,
Arella Mae wrote:
Hey Tico! I haven't seen you in awhile. I pray all is well with you.

Hey, MA ... good to see you, and good to be seen. Things is peachy.
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firefly
 
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Reply Fri 1 Oct, 2010 11:43 am
@snood,
We did discuss this incident, probably 50 pages back by now (the trolls take up a lot of page space)Laughing

Don't forget, all of these people were working, including the players. She was in there to conduct an interview, and that is how she usually dresses. It was in that context--a work environment-- that the players behaved inappropriately, and that's why the NFL chastised them.
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I think of myself as fairly enlightened in general, but I can't help turning this scenario around in my mind... If a male reporter who was well built went into a female lacker room of undressed and half dressed female athletes, and that male reporter had on skintight clothing that hugged and exposed him in a way that not much was left for the imagination, would we hear (and would we listen to) any protestations of harrassment? How would that little change in the logistics of the situation change our reactions to it?


If the females were giving post game interviews, they wouldn't be undressed or even half dressed. And, if a male reporter in skin tight clothing came in, I really don't think he'd be subjected to sexist comments, nor do I think all eyes would be fixed on his crotch--in fact, they might be trying to look everywhere but his crotch because, in that particular situation, the women might feel embarrassed. I also think women might not find his attire sexy (but gay men might). So, I don't think harrassment would go on. The women would wait until he left, and then they'd express themselves.Laughing
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firefly
 
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Reply Fri 1 Oct, 2010 12:04 pm
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Study finds date-rape drug use low
But teens warned to be careful to avoid drink spiking: experts
By DOUGLAS QUAN
Postmedia News
September 30, 2010

Don't accept drinks from strangers and never leave drinks unattended.

It's a warning young people have heard for years, and one that was recently reinforced by police in B.C. following the suspected gang rape of a girl, 16, at a rave party.

But the actual threat of drink spiking using so-called "date-rape drugs" appears to be very low, according to a recent Canadian study.

Experts say the findings don't necessarily mean authorities shouldn't warn young people about these drugs and about covert drugging. But they say the message needs to be broadened to address a bigger concern and more common scenario: excessive drinking by young people and the mixing of alcohol with recreational drugs.

The study, published last month in the Journal of Forensic and Legal Medicine, examined the toxicology test results of 178 people who were treated for sexual assault at seven Ontario hospitals. The study found that 135 of them tested positive for alcohol, drugs or both.

However, the most common drugs detected were cannabinoids (marijuana), cocaine, amphetamines (speed, crystal meth), and MDMA (ecstasy) -not GHB or Rohypnol, drugs most often cited in date rape public-awareness campaigns.

"It's not typically the drugs that get all the hype," said lead researcher Janice Du Mont, a scientist at the Women's College Research Institute in Toronto.

In fact, there were only two positive findings of GHB and none for Rohypnol. And in one of the two GHB cases, the patient reported voluntarily taking the substance.

Studies out of Britain and Australia have made similar findings, calling drink tampering and the use of date-rape drugs to commit sexual assaults "uncommon" and a "very limited threat."

But that doesn't mean young people should let their guard down, experts say.

They note that the rare detection of date-rape drugs in toxicology tests could be attributable, in part, to the fact that some of these drugs typically disappear from a person's system within a day or two.

Plus, they say, surreptitious drugging can occur using other drugs.

Wendy Potter, counsellor with the B.C. Women's Hospital sex assault services team, said she encountered one case where a patient had been slipped a mixture of the sleeping aid Nytol and the cold remedy Robitussin.
http://www.montrealgazette.com/news/Study+finds+date+rape+drug/3601407/story.html

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