Hey, Can A Woman "Ask To Get Raped"?

No, not entirely.

If a woman is drunk, and goes to a man's room, and even gets naked, it is date rape if she's too drunk to really, fully, consent to a sex act she actually wants to engage in. Even getting naked, and giving a man oral sex, does not mean the woman is consenting to having any sexual acts performed on her, or indicating her willingness to engage in any other sex acts. I do not think she is "asking for it"--simply because she engages in some sexual activity with a man. And that is the way the rape laws view it too.

That person does acknowledge that date rape is a C--a real rape--but then she hedges and starts blaming the woman in certain date rape situations. Women, including those who are quite sober, may want to freely engage in certain sex acts, but not others. If they don't want to have vaginal intercourse, nothing else they do (take off their clothes, give the man oral sex) should mistakenly be taken as consent for intercourse, or used to say they "asked for it".

I do agree that there is a difference between bad sex, and rape. Rape is unwanted sex, as indicated by verbal protests or physical resistance, or by the fact that that the woman is too intoxicated or drugged to actively consent and actively participate in the sexual act.

I would expect that a woman who has been the victim of a stranger rape might view date rape as less of a "real rape" than what she has been through. Certain elements of extreme fear and physical danger, usually present in stranger rape, might not be present in the date rape situation. But that doesn't make date rape any less of a rape. Legally, rape is defined as sex without without consent, regardless of the situation it occurs in. And, unfortunately, even other women can share cultural myths about rape, including the myth that a woman is "asking for it" as soon as she gets drunk, or goes to a man's room, or even if she takes off her clothes. That blame the victim attitude simply winds up making excuses for the rapist. The woman who has been the victim of a stranger rape generally does not have to contend with victim blame, so she might not fully understand the position or experience of a woman who has been raped by a date or acquaintance.

Whether a man has consent or not should be indicated by a woman's active willing participation in the sexual act--and hopefully her enjoyment of the act. It should be unmistakable. Someone, in a date rape situation, who is too drunk to actively participate or even to be able to fully understand what is happening, or to protest, is being raped. Consent doesn't just revolve around the word "No"--the man should be sure he's hearing, and seeing, an active, enthusiastic, "Yes".

Nothing is going to change their minds. They have heard actual rape victims on this thread and they toss it out, disrespect them, and just get vulgar. They will not accept any of the rape statistics. Why should we expect them to? They won't even accept responsibility for their own actions.

Did you watch that 48 Hour Mystery on Rodney Alcala? He was convicted twice. Sentenced to death twice. Both times the convictions were overturned. So he goes out and rapes and kills more women, one a little girl!! The police actually caught him with one little girl in his house near death but he escaped them. Thank God this monster has been put away for good!

Would you?
Women aren't allowed to say no if they're drunk? Huh?

Come on Panz; say you were in for an evening of casual sex, and after you'd both had a few drinks she did a stiptease for you and started giving you a hummer... then abruptly decided she didn't want to be there anymore. Does she not have that right? Is there really any room for confusion here?

I agree

You invalidate yourself every time you make a post.

It is hard to decipher your posts due to the grammar that you use. However, I figured out enough to realize that testosterone treatments may what you need. Maybe that is why you come across as a wimpy crybaby.

Look Bill, you don't need to start any of your aggressive **** with me on this thread.

I'm not siding with the"moron" as you call this victim of stranger-rape, in fact, I'm just trying to have a discussion so I can understand the differences in these situations...so don't get all bowed up...ok?

I do believe that the moron in question is BillRM.

If either of these demented cowards ran their mouths like this in real life, they'd be beaten unrecognizable on a regular basis and know it. That's why they post their disgusting **** from safely behind fake names and phony avatars.

Thank you for your kind words, but the truth is; the thumbs down button is the most effective tool against trolls like these (at least for as long as they’re catered to)... and as disgusting as their abuse is, trolls is all they are. They come here on purpose to get a rise of women who would shun them completely in real life. This level of demented misogyny is likely the result of being under-endowed and ridiculed by most every woman who's seen them naked. But here on the internet they can pretend they're real men... instead of the pathetic demented cowards they really are.

It was a simple question, Panz. But I see you've essentially answered it.

I didn't answer the question Bill. Not in any form. And I'll tell you why. Because I'm asking questions, if that's ok with you.

While I agree that Bill Rm is a moron,(The comments he made to BBB and JustBrooke are unforgivable) I think Occ.Bill was referring to the the woman who was a victim of stranger-rape and who's testimony I quoted.

Not sure. I have been known to be wrong before. I'll let OccumBill speak for himself as I don't want to infer he said something that he may not have.