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Hey, Can A Woman "Ask To Get Raped"?

 
 
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Reply Fri 24 Sep, 2010 07:14 pm
@Arella Mae,
Are you referring to the man who deliberately fathered all of those children with his daughters?

Isn't that case incredible? I don't envy the jurors who will have to sit through his trials. That will be very disturbing stuff to listen to.
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Reply Fri 24 Sep, 2010 07:16 pm
@firefly,
I'm talking about that and the judge and all those other animals out there. It makes me so angry sometimes.
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Reply Fri 24 Sep, 2010 07:26 pm
@Arella Mae,
It's difficult not to feel angry reading about what these people have done to their victims.

Arella Mae
 
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Reply Fri 24 Sep, 2010 07:36 pm
@firefly,
It's such a roller coaster. I feel hope and then I feel angry. I have a really hard time coming to grips with how people can be so cruel and inhuman. I call them evil and they are but it still doesn't mean I understand it. I guess if I feel like I can understand it then it won't effect me so much. People have always told me I'm really emotional and I probably am. But, I'd rather be overly emotional than not have any emotions about it. I'm just in a weird place today. My friend is doing great and I'm relieved and happy but some of these stories are just so heartbreaking.
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Reply Fri 24 Sep, 2010 07:44 pm
Another rape on a college campus...the type of crime that dumb BillRM keeps insisting isn't happening to college women very frequently. He should try reading a newspaper some time. The statistics relating to the rapes of college women include all types of rapes, something else Dumbo doesn't understand. I guess the victims of these crimes just aren't important to him--he doesn't think there are enough of them.
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San Jose City College: One attack, one rape in less than two weeks
By Lisa Fernandez
09/24/2010

San Jose City College police have issued a campus-wide alert after two attacks on female students over the past two weeks, the most recent one occurring Tuesday afternoon.

Police do not believe the same person is involved in the two cases. The descriptions of the two suspects are different.

In the alert, the college reminds students to "continue to observe ways to ensure your personal safety.''

Tuesday's assault occurred about 3:50 p.m. on the second floor of the college's parking garage on Leigh Avenue, according to the alert issued by San Jose/Evergreen Community College District Police Chief Ray Aguirre.

After the woman broke free and ran to her car, she called San Jose police two hours later, and then called campus police, Aguirre said.

The woman described the attacker as: A tan white man, or a Latino, about 40 to 50 years old, standing 6 feet tall, and weighing nearly 200 pounds. She said he had wrinkled or "weathered" cheeks, and had a strong smell of cologne.

On Sept. 13, police said a woman reported being pushed into her car and raped sometime between 5:30 and 6 a.m. at City College's Science Lot.

In that case, the attacker is described as either Latino or African American, about feet tall and weighing between 250 and 300 pounds. He wore a dark ski mask, a black zip-up windbreaker, dark pants and white tennis shoes. The victim said his clothes were "soiled and dirty" and he had a "foul smell." He was last seen walking away from the parking lot southbound toward Laswell Avenue past the greenhouse.
http://www.mercurynews.com/san-jose-neighborhoods/ci_16163486
Arella Mae
 
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Reply Fri 24 Sep, 2010 07:51 pm
@firefly,
I really feel for parents that have kids in school. Their kids obviously aren't as safe as they should be. Is anywhere safe anymore?
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Arella Mae
 
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Reply Sat 25 Sep, 2010 08:31 am
Way too close to home (I'm in Louisiana) for comfort.

http://www.shreveporttimes.com/article/20100925/NEWS01/9250318/1060/NEWS01

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Sabine grand jury indicts four in child rape cases

MANY — Four Sabine Parish men were indicted this week in separate cases of alleged child rape, according to Assistant District Attorney Anna Garcie.

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Reply Sun 26 Sep, 2010 01:06 pm
This is the sort of message they should begin sending in high school--and back it up with discussions about the legal meaning of "consent" in sex ed classes. It emphasizes that, if the girl is drunk, the "manly" thing to do is not to have sex, rather than the notion that her intoxicated state simply makes it easier to "take advantage" of her. Not having sex in such circumstances is also the safest course a young man can take from a legal perspective.

http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/jezebel/2009/11/strength112009.jpg

Arella Mae
 
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Reply Sun 26 Sep, 2010 02:27 pm
@firefly,
Marvelous ad! It not only empowers women but I think it empowers the men to step up! Kudos to whomever thought that ad up!
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Reply Sun 26 Sep, 2010 10:19 pm
@firefly,
Thank God most of the men in this world would never rape a woman. Most men do understand what rape is. A REAL man does, anyhow.

Often when a woman is raped, she is inundated with a barrage of questions. "Did you fight back"? "What were you wearing"? "How much did you have to drink"? "Did you try and kick him in the balls or yell for help"? "Were you intimate with him prior to the rape"? The reality of it is, none of those questions matter. It doesn't matter what she was wearing. It doesn't matter how physically intimate she was with the guy beforehand. It also does NOT matter how much she had to drink beforehand. When a man takes control away from a woman--that's rape. Let me say that again. WHEN A MAN TAKES CONTROL AWAY FROM A WOMAN....THAT IS RAPE! Not a difficult thing for a "man" to understand.

I have learned something this week. Though it has been extremely difficult for me to wrap my head around it. I have learned that you may not always know a guy the way you might think you do. He can be your friend. He can be totally respectful to you. He can be someone that you have studied with. Been alone in his dorm with. Spent late nights working in the lab with. Someone that you have known and been friends with for a couple of years, and that person can still be capable of rape. He can be one of the last people in the world that you would ever, in a million years, think capable of such monstrosities. It has saddened me in ways I can't even explain to you. He was my friend. Not just a friend, but a FRIEND. Been very hard to digest. He did not hurt me. It was someone else. Thank God he was caught in the act. Still--dude was my friend. He truly was always respectful to me. When we first got to know each other, he asked me if I was seeing anyone. I said yes. He respected that. Occasionally, he would ask if I still had a boyfriend, but he never, not once, pushed anything on me, in any way. Sure, he was flirtacious. No big deal there, though. I can't understand how he could be so gentle, kind, respectful with me--at all times, and do what he did. Is my judgement of character that bad? I have been questioning that a great deal this past week.

Anyhow, glad to see that you gals are still keeping this thread going. Also, glad that the thumbs down button is still working. Wink

Have a good night.

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firefly
 
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Reply Sun 26 Sep, 2010 10:32 pm
@hawkeye10,
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You dont get to be in charge just because there is sex involved and you demand it.


Exactly! That's why if you demand it, rather than her offering it, or she doesn't want it, it is rape. And you don't get to be in charge of deciding whether it's rape--the law has decided that for you.

Being equals means she has the right to say, "No"--and expect you to listen and stop.

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Reply Mon 27 Sep, 2010 08:23 am
@JustBrooke,
I am so sorry that this has happened. I know how you are feeling. Shock, numb, pain, questioning yourself, etc. Brooke, don't question your judgment. Rapists are like two people. One side they show the world and the world loves them and then they have that monster side that only those they attack see. I am glad it was not you that was hurt and I am sad for the one he did hurt. I pray she is getting the help she will need to deal with this and I pray you have someone you can confide in too because you can eat yourself up with doubting your own judgment.

I will be praying for you and your friend.
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OCCOM BILL
 
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Reply Mon 27 Sep, 2010 10:35 am
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:

We are still not sure what the hell he was supposed to have done.

Guess one he did assaulted her and tries to rape her but by her own words does not seem to support that event.

Guess two he exposed himself to her.

Guess three he did a very forceful pass at her even forcing kisses from her.

Guess four he talk dirty to her and told her in details what he would like to do with her.

Maybe it was guess three and guess four together.



Shut the **** up, you demented idiot. She was not at all unclear: Her former friend, who never wronged her in any way, got caught in the act of raping someone else. What is there to not understand?

Why does this site continue to cater to demented trolls, who revel in the pain and suffering of others?
 

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