Hey, Can A Woman "Ask To Get Raped"?

Indeed it seems to give them green light. Over the years recruiters have been more regulated on what they can offer athletes to get them to come to their college. Students have been offered money, cars, women, etc. just to come to a college because of their athletic prowess. It seems some of those same athletes think that means they can do whatever and the school reinforces that thought by covering up the wrongs committed.

I saw a story once about a whole town that rallied around the football player that was being accused of rape. It was despicable. There is too much denial in this world about a lot of things and rape is definitely one of them.

Do you even bother to read what we post? I SAID THERE HAS TO BE SOME SORT OF PROOF because DNA isn't going to be enough!

Girls, shoot me now please because I answered that mysoginist again! Now, I need to go take a shower because I feel dirty.

Would you like to give links to college programs that now expulsed students for binge drinking just to start with?



In th same manner as most women are now slap on the wrist for falsely claiming rape?

I agree.

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Why is it despicable not to assume anyone charge with such a crime is guilty of it and to rallied around someone who is assume innocent until found guilty?

And was he found guilty of raping anyone in a court of law as being charge and being guilty are not the same thing.

Something you seem not to be able to understand.

Hi Caroline - nice to see a new face here! I like your input.

As to rape on campus:
I am a college student. There are many things wrong with the system. Alcohol is not the main problem concerning rape on campus. Yes, not allowing yourself to get intoxicated can't hurt. At least your ability to fight off the perpetrator may increase. Though, I assure you, at 5'2 and barely 100 pounds, it is going to take more than being sober for me to fight off an assailant that is 6'2 and over 200 pounds. Yes, many rapes occur with the involvement of alcohol, but a man does not rape because he is drunk. He is either of the mentality to rape or he is not. While alcohol may and does cause aggression in some people, and many rapes happen under intoxication, I do not believe that it is strictly because of the alcohol. If I am not safe with someone that is drunk, I am not safe with that same person if he is sober.

One of the biggest problems I see, is that very few students will report a rape. Many of these rapists are repeat offenders, and the lack of reporting puts other students in danger. If you really want to pull down the number of females that are raped on campus, you need to address the judicial side of things. Title IX and the Clery Act that are meant to protect us, fail us miserably. I’m not going to get into all of that because it is such a broad subject. Campus judiciary systems are a joke.

If you are raped on campus and report it, the campus judiciary system is more than likely going to fail you, so few even bother. The rapists know this. If you are a jock or athlete that is very important to the school’s athletic department, your chances of getting away with rape are higher than a non-jock.

If you feel betrayed by your school’s handling of Title IX and go over the school’s head to the COC, good luck. They are likely going to side with the school, regardless of the facts.

Expulsion in situations where rape has been proven? Highly unlikely. They slap their wrist and explain to them why they were a bad little boy and don’t let it happen again. Of course it does. Raped? Don’t even think about talking to your counselor for guidance. Once you do that, it keeps the stats out of the Clery Act, which again, was meant to protect and provide knowledge so you, as a student, are aware of the crime on your campus. Until rape is taken seriously on campus, nothing is going to change.

We have co-ed dorms. What are you supposed to do, lock yourself in your room after dark? Can’t happen. When you have buildings scattered on well over a 1,000 acres of ground, you are out walking after dark. That’s a given. Walking in groups is best, but not always possible. With over 55,000 students, crime does happen. Not just rape.

We have the R.A.D program on campus, as do many colleges. It’s a good self defense class to take. Once you complete the program, you are allowed to attend any R.A.D class across the country for free for the rest of your life. R.A.D = Rape Aggression Defense. Other than that, there just isn’t much protection for a female student on campus that expects to never be forcibly raped. It can happen and does happen. Way more than you know.

While I can appreciate your ideas, Bill, on handling rape on campus, it is just so much more complicated than alcohol. Sober or not sober – the system fails us miserably in many areas that need to be adressed before the victims will come forth. You will get more rapists off campus by addressing these issues first.

So you agree that the town folks did something wrong when they did not act like the football player had already been found guilty of a crime?

As a matter of fact, he was found guilty. Not only that, the people at the school that covered it up were also arrested, charged, and punished. I wouldn't have called it despicable if he hadn't of been convicted! Do you have a clue as to what common sense is?

It was despicable because everyone knew it was true yet they covered it up.

You pretty much described what I have read and seen concerning rapes on campuses. It is terrible that in this day and age, well, any day and age, the victim is actually made a victim over and over again by the system. Thank God steps are being taken to push rape kits being tested, etc. It's not enough to stop it, but it is a definite start to getting more of the rapists off the streets.

Remember Alex Kelly? A college student that raped some girls at his college? He was from a rich family. One girl was brave enough to press charges and go to court. He was found guilty and his family helped him skip the country. During the investigation, more girls came forward with the same story as the girl that pressed charges.

It was very hard on the girl that pressed charges and her family because they were up against the system and people with big money. But, they finally got him and he's off the streets!

It seems Alex Kelly is no longer in prison. He only spent ten years in jail! His parents were never charged for helping him escape punishment. It's obvious he wasn't given any/or much time at all for being a fugitive. He got out after ten years for good behavior.

You can read it here:

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/2007/11/23/2007-11-23_alex_kelly_released_from_prison.html

He has served his time. I think he should have gotten more time but reality is, he didn't. I pray he does not commit these acts ever again.

Hi Brook, thanks. I like your input too, I didn't know that rape on campus is handled so despicably in America it makes me sick. They wouldn't like it if happened to them or one of their relatives. This is just so bad and despicable.

I believe that many rapists get off lightly regarding sentences then they are just free to do it again and again which they do, ruining more victims lives. Those claimed that they are cured is bs because stats show that they rape again so I say heavier prison sentences for these dangerous criminals makes sense.

Sickening, isn't it. Money talks. Athleticism talks. I can't ever really see that changing. You guys just have no idea what goes on on campus. Not just my campus.

Really, all any female can do is go out in groups and not alone, and learn some dang good self-defense. The system is not exactly on our side, on campus or off. At least there are some fires brewing over the lack of rape kit testing.

Have a good night, all!

(Except you, Billy.)

Tell that to the Duke players..........

The post you just made is exactly why we feel you have no compassion. No one said what happened to those Duke players was right. It's too bad you don't have compassion for the women and children that are raped and/or killed.

What has that got to with the way rape is handled on campus?

I posted a link to Jennifer Peebles investigation, "‘Undetected Rapists’ on Campus: A Troubling Plague of Repeat Offenders" a few pages back. I'll post it again, in case someone missed it and wants to read it.
http://www.publicintegrity.org/investigations/campus_assault/articles/entry/1948/

What an animal! They were white women and that's why they would lie? I think I'm going to be sick!

Thanks for the link. It's so dreadfully disappointing the way colleges handle rape and the sad thing is they go on to rape again, I think the people who are responsible for not taking action should be tried for rape too because they let them free and more victims are raped, disgusting disappointing and downright awful.