Hey, Can A Woman "Ask To Get Raped"?

I was trying to have a conversation with Bill on another thread. One thing I can say for him, he's consistent. He changes his story constantly, insults when you disagree with him, and rarely posts his sources.

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I was trying to have a conversation with Bill on another thread. One thing I can say for him, he's consistent. He changes his story constantly, insults when you disagree with him, and rarely posts his sources.

Such as the US Department of Justice website!!!!

I do not trust Wikipedia you stated and when I then pointed out that the article in question have a direct link to the Department of Justice website and the table shown in the article was taken from that website directly you just would not address that fact.

Gong back to attacking wikipedia so you are one hell of a game player and little else.

Second note I always give a link or the header tell where it come from as the New York Times or whatever when I first post a fact.

You are once more one hell of a game player.

Third note the crime rate for 1965 was .3 or so less then currently not a meaningful different in any sense of the word but you gleefully jump on it.

So once more you are one hell of a game player.

Major Victory Against Hate Speech in South Africa
by Lori Adelman on
March 15, 2010

Last year we highlighted our amazing South African partner Sonke Gender Justice Network in our annual Top Ten Wins for their work in filing a hate speech complaint against Youth League leader Julius Malema. They took Malema, of the progressive South African resistance organization the African National Congress, to court after he told a group of 150 University students that South African President Jacob Zuma’s rape accuser must have enjoyed having sex with him.

“When a woman didn’t enjoy it, she leaves early in the morning,” Zuma said. “Those who had a nice time will wait until the sun comes out, request breakfast, and ask for taxi money.”

As an organization that supports men and boys to act against domestic and sexual violence, Sonke formalized their hate speech complaint against Malema in Equality Court in May. Back in December of 2009, we celebrated this decision as a symbolic victory in and of itself.

This morning, I am elated to report that this victory is no longer just symbolic.

The Equality Court has ruled that ANC Youth League President Julius Malema is, in fact, guilty of hate speech and discrimination, the two charges Sonke leveled against him in the Equality Court following his hateful comments. Malema has been ordered to issue a written apology within the next two weeks and instructed to pay R50,000 (approx. $7,000) to an organization serving survivors of gender based violence.

More from Sonke’s press statement:

“This case makes it clear that our country’s leaders need to be more responsible in their public statements and that civil society can and will hold them accountable. We hope that this ruling will alert public figures to the potential repercussions of their words, both in terms of the impact that public statements can have in perpetuating gender-based violence and other forms of discrimination, and in terms of the legal implications.

“In a country where it is estimated that one in three a women is raped, we need to take strong action to counter myths and stereotypes which can lead perpetrators to believe that they can act with impunity, and which can dissuade rape survivors from seeking health care or justice.”

The press statement goes on to outline next steps for continuing the fight against stigma, discrimination, and gender-based violence in South Africa:

“It is not sufficient, however, for leaders to refrain from making irresponsible comments; we need proactive leadership to mobilise men and boys to take action against gender-based violence. We reiterate our call for men in public positions to be clear and consistent in their explicit support of gender equality and to condemn openly and unequivocally all forms of gender-based violence.

Instead of perpetuating rape myths, public figures should make it clear that rape can happen anywhere, and that the rapist could be anyone: a stranger, a friend, a boyfriend, a husband. There are no rules that say a woman who has been raped will behave like this or like that. We need to make sure that women who have been raped are not stigmatised and are not made to feel like the crimes against them were their fault.”

IWHC will continue to support and partner with Sonke as they continue their incredible work generating support for women’s rights and gender equality – and specifically to educate men and boys about the role they can play in advancing gender equality.

http://blog.iwhc.org/2010/03/major-victory-against-hate-speech-in-south-africa/

As Many as 200 Women, Babies Gang-Raped in CongoUpdated: 1 hour 11 minutes ago
Dana Kennedy
Contributor

AOL News (Aug. 23) -- As many as 200 women were systematically gang-raped by Rwandan and Congolese rebels over a four-day period last month less than 20 miles from a U.N. peacekeeping base in the eastern part of the Democratic Republic of the Congo, the United Nations and aid groups reported.

The Associated Press reported that four baby boys were also raped in the attacks that began in a key mining district on July 30. U.N. spokesman Martin Nesirky told reporters today the rebels blocked a key road during the raping and looting spree.

The eastern Congo is known as the "rape capital of the world" where savage mobs use sexual violence to subdue the population and vie for control of the "conflict minerals" used to make cell phones and laptops around the world.

Between 200 and 400 armed men began looting and raping women in the village of Ruvungi, which lies near a key mining center, in front of their families and in their homes, The New York Times reported.

A local coordinator for the International Medical Corps, Will F. Cragin, told the Times that when the rebels arrived, they told villagers not to worry and explained they just there for "food and rest."

They lied, Cragin said.

"After dark another group came," Cragin said. "They began to systematically rape the population. Most women were raped by two to six men at a time."

Many women were dragged in the forest and gang-raped, Cragin said. Later they emerged from the forest naked.

The perpetrators have been identified as Hutu rebels from the Democratic Forces for the Liberation of Rwanda, or FDLR, which is made up in part of those who took part in the Rwandan genocide in 1994.

The FDLR is one of many predatory armies and militias that have been vying for political power and control of Congo's vast mineral reserves – including gold, cassiterite and coltan -- since the late 1990s.

They use rape as a weapon of war, aimed at civilians, and its incidence has been increasing. According to an Oxfam report released in April, rape in the eastern Congo has risen 17-fold since 2004.

Men, as well as girls as young as 4 years old, have been the victims of rape in eastern Congo.

"It's been an incredibly effective weapon of war," David Sullivan, an expert on Congo at the Washington-based Enough Project, told AOL News. "The soldiers and rebels have been able to control, humiliate and dominate whole communities by using sexual violence and terrorism. Rape has become horrifyingly normalized."

The women who are raped are victimized again after being attacked because of the enormous cultural taboos involving sexual violence in the Congo.

"They're excommunicated from their villages and their families," Francisca Vigaud-Walsh of Catholic Relief Services, who is an expert in sexual violence in Congo, told AOL News. "They lose their entire support structure."

News of the attacks came a little more than a year after U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton visited the region to demand an end to the sexual violence, saying she was making ending the widespread tragedy a personal priority.

There was no immediate explanation as to why the attacks were not reported until today.

3 to 5 children a day are killed by their parents in the US. This didn't happen in the 50's! How many women raped everyday in the US? It didn't happen in the 50's!

The study shows for the first time the dramatic rise in the number of child homicides over a five-year period, with the number of killings doubling from 28 in 2004 to 56 in 2007...Incomplete figures for 2008 suggest the upward trend is continuing, and children are being killed by their so-called carers at the rate of one a week.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/one-child-in-britain-is-killed-like-baby-peter-every-week-1740220.html

You are telling me in the United States in the 1950's three to five children every single day were killed by their parents but we just didn't hear about it?

Well, when Richard Speck killed all those nurses in Illinois, the whole world knew it. When the Klutters were killed in Kanas, the whole world knew about it and Truman Capote even wrote a book about it. I lived in the fifties. We heard about murders. I would say if three to five children every day were being killed by their parents we would have known about it. If you can provide proof of this, I'd be more than willing to look at it.

I am having absolutely no luck in finding statistics for filicide in the 1950's.