911, The consequences we paid for our actions

Wow....This should be made known that he totally flip flopped. The media got all on John Kerry for flip flopping but why not Rudy. I have no hope for this country. The only glimmer of hope is with the Ron Paul campaign and hopefully we can gain enough supporters for an uprising.

Its too bad that people like us are the minority.

I think we are truly through the looking glass in this country. Black is white, up is down, and 2+2=5. Example: So-called conservatives foam at the mouth attacking Ron Paul while constantly raving over "tough guy" Fred Thompson.

Let's compare the two: Ron Paul is a medical doctor, former Flight Surgeon in the Air Force, and 10-term congressman who has never voted for a tax increase, federal gun law, a congressional pay raise, etc. He's served on the House Banking, Finance, and Foreign Affairs Committees, supported Reagan in 1976 (one of only 4 Republicans to do so), is pro-life, pro-Constitution, and for securing our southern border while opposing amnesty.

Fred Thompson is a lawyer, lobbyist, actor, CFR member, who has spent his entire adult life inside the Beltway or on Hollywood sets. He never served in the military and yet--like Giuliani--is a shameless war hawk.

What's wrong with this picture?

"Protecting" our interest is what put us in front of the bus.

Islamofacist are in front of the bus and guess who's driving.

So the alternative to protecting our interests is?
I suppose since protecting our interest is, as you so eloquently say "bull****", then perhaps we should govern from your school of foreign policy? Which is? please enlight us with your wisdom.

I did not say we should not protect our interest, but you can not spread democracy with a gun. I can't write software, but I can tell you if it doesn't work, and our foreign policies do not work. There are plenty of ways of getting things done without resort to a military action, if we truely wanted to spread democracy, but unfortunately humanitarianism doesn't make multinational corporations billions of dollars. We have a lot of power and influence, and until recently respect worldwide. Our government is greedy, and war is big business.

The real question seems to be what anyone means by "our" interests. It's amazing to me that so-called conservatives preach about free-market--a concept I believe in--but then advocate the use of the military on behalf of U.S. oil corporations a la Halliburton. Oh sorry, Halliburton is moving it's corporate headquarters to the Middle East.

These same people seem to think we should launch a pre-emptive strike on Iran. Does any clown who advocates that tact understand the effect such a strike would have on the world oil market?

You left our "and i'm a puppet."

It wouldn't cost us anything, we would be going in there to steal there oil just like were stealing it from Iraq.

And you left ouT "and I'm a dipshit"

And you think this is a good thing? Sounds pretty Christian to me. Someone refresh my memory, when did Jesus say, "Kill hundreds of thousands of innocent men, women, and children to plunder their natural resources because it's the pragmatic thing to do."?

I don't think you really understand the environmental consequences of a nuclear strike.

I don't think you really understand the environmental consequences of a nuclear strike.