We can only hope that Killidar is correct-----For Iraq to become an Islamic Theocracy instead of a Secular Democracy would negate the magnificent achievement of our troops. We are powerless to stop it if that is the will of the Ayatollah Sistani. We can only hope that he does not want a repeat of the Islamic theocratic mess in Iran.[/quote]
OK , lets start with " the magnificent achievement of our troops."
Tell me what those are.
Quote:We can only hope that Killidar is correct-----For Iraq to become an Islamic Theocracy instead of a Secular Democracy would negate the magnificent achievement of our troops. We are powerless to stop it if that is the will of the Ayatollah Sistani. We can only hope that he does not want a repeat of the Islamic theocratic mess in Iran.
perception, why do you object to a religiously-motivated and driven government in Iraq? You seem to think the one that is in charge in this country is doing okay....
Ge, you took the question out of my mouth...
Sorry .....you can have dib's on the answer
Ge, I think "the magnificent achievement of our troops" slipped in here by mistake. Perception was writing some copy for a US Army advert, and he got the files mixed up.
"Join the Army! Travel to exotic, distant lands. Meet exciting, unusual people, and kill them"
I can believe an order coming down from the pathological Mr. Hussein to use weapons he actually didn't have. I can believe it would be purposefully broadcast so we would hear it. I could also believe it was fabricated. In that ad could be a line about playing Lotto with your life and being picked off in some foreign land by a guerilla resistance fighter. The question will be: for what?
(The answer could be for American business including Bush's oil cronies).
Lightwizard wrote:(The answer could be for American business including Bush's oil cronies).
How about ' the glorifinacation of W'
Many different reasons, none of the as noble as the loft ideals being dished up as voter fodder. The cows of the Mobocracy will gather at the trough to slurp up this distasteful garbage passed off as idealism.
I don't know what the hell you said but it gets my vote
I don't hear you chewing on your cud so I'm assuming you're not one of the herd. All other reasons for the invasion have faltered so the administration has falled back one a kind of contrived idealism. Part of that idealism is that our government is perfect and should be implanted anywhere it is perceived as needed. The truth is that not everyone is enthralled with our form of crass commercialism and consumer mania (well, at least we will see if this Christmas is punctuated by the return of that mania). Nothing inherantly wrong with successfull marketing, it's just that its misuses can bring on different forms of war. Not all of them can get one killed -- remember that the purpose of the war in Vietnam boiled down to breaking up a game of dominoes.
Was it Mark Twain who said: Don't Vote. It only encourages them.
(Okay, okay, I know it wasn't Twain....)
B. .... I thought he said 'vote early and often'
Kara wrote:Quote:We can only hope that Killidar is correct-----For Iraq to become an Islamic Theocracy instead of a Secular Democracy would negate the magnificent achievement of our troops. We are powerless to stop it if that is the will of the Ayatollah Sistani. We can only hope that he does not want a repeat of the Islamic theocratic mess in Iran.
perception, why do you object to a religiously-motivated and driven government in Iraq? You seem to think the one that is in charge in this country is doing okay....
Ah Kara-----I see you're still unable to differentiate between liberal propaganda and the seriously mistaken ideological actions of an Islamic theocracy which allows 7th century customs to rule a modern society such as in Iran.
Has Tommy Franks turned into a paranoid, hand wringing liberal? "what is the worst thing that can happen in our country" he asked. Franks suggested that a "massive casuality-producing event" might cause "our population to question our own constitution and begin to militarize our country." He went on to say "the western world, the free world, loses what it cherishes most, and that is freedom and liberty we've seen for a couple of hundred years in this grand experiment that we call democracy." Gen Tommy Franks is the recently retired head of CenCom.
Lightwizard wrote:Many different reasons, none of the as noble as the loft ideals being dished up as voter fodder. The cows of the Mobocracy will gather at the trough to slurp up this distasteful garbage passed off as idealism.
The only idealistic Mobocracy I know of is the one represented by the Mob of liberals roosting on this forum. Especially the distasteful garbage passed off as idealism.
dyslexia wrote:Has Tommy Franks turned into a paranoid, hand wringing liberal? "what is the worst thing that can happen in our country" he asked. Franks suggested that a "massive casuality-producing event" might cause "our population to question our own constitution and begin to militarize our country." He went on to say "the western world, the free world, loses what it cherishes most, and that is freedom and liberty we've seen for a couple of hundred years in this grand experiment that we call democracy." Gen Tommy Franks is the recently retired head of CenCom.
Ain't it wonderful to watch the "little wheels turning" in the head of a self proclaimed intellectual attempting to come up with a new world view on anything and everything.