Latinos divided on immigration issue

Your Constitution for one.

Liberals make the Constitution up as it suits them. We should atleast know what it says.

I also agree that shooting the illegal immigrants, providing medical attn, then sending them home would be a bit costly and wasteful.

I agree with the wall, but who's going to guard it? I don't care how tall, deep, or thick you make it, they'll still find ways over here.

So what will you say when bush does nothing. Then it is up to suceeds him? And bush gets off scot free?

Sorry you don't like it but that's the way it is. If you don't like bringing up the past then don't do it.

I on the other hand have no problem with it. First is was bringing up Clinton, now it's bringing up " Prior" Admins, what will it be next?

Are we free to speak are minds or are you setting precedent? I am free to point out what I see and what I see is someone who when blame I will not conform to your view on debating your only solution is to edit or ban me.

That's just it. We're talking about children born in the US, and then deported to a foreign country until they are of age (which is unconstitutional). But lets say that somehow it's possible.

These US citizens who grow up to be adults now can enter the US legally just by walking in. They are also allowed to bring their spouses and any children they have with them.

There is no "proper channel".

You have to understand that the rules are differnet when you use the military. Innocent is no longer a civil state in terms of military action. Innocent is defined as someone who isn't engaging a military unit.

Legally are they innocent, of course not. In the eyes of the military though, unless they start shooting first (depending on the RoE, they're innocents).

Wouldn't it be cheaper to just deport them, instead of shooting them, praying that they don't die on us, have them recover at the expense of you the taxpayer and then deporting them?

You must be a liberal.

The military is not chartered to be policemen. Guess you've never heard of posse comitatus, huh. It makes what you want to do illegal. Maybe instead of pounding away on a computer keyboard, you read a book (maybe American Govenment for Dummies?) first.

I guess you don't have a passport, huh?

From a police matter, I've never said that. When you use the military, it's a whole different matter.

Again, American Govenment for Dummies. I think Amazon has it.

Simple, Tell then if they see any one coming over the border. Stop them from crossing.

And all we need is an OK from congress.

When has Bush ever got off scots free?



:wtf: I dont bring up the past.




Nope, my point is it is pointless to say prior admins did not do something and use that as an excuse for the current admin to not do something. They already did nothing about it. The current admin has the problem in their face and is doing nothing about it RIGHT NOW. Which leads me back to the A you gave Bush. I bring up a flaw in Bush and you counter it as some previous President, aka Clinton, done it too. So what? Bush is doing it NOW.



Wtf? I point out problems I see in your points and you tell me to ban you? Because I disagree with you? No one is stopping you from saying what you want as long as you do it in a decent way. No one is stopping me from getting annoyed at the the blame shifting you do either and me calling you on it.

When has Bush ever got off scots free?

I dont bring up the past.

Nope, my point is it is pointless to say prior admins did not do something and use that as an excuse for the current admin to not do something. They already did nothing about it. The current admin has the problem in their face and is doing nothing about it RIGHT NOW. Which leads me back to the A you gave Bush. I bring up a flaw in Bush and you counter it as some previous President, aka Clinton, done it too. So what? Bush is doing it NOW.

Wtf? I point out problems I see in your points and you tell me to ban you?

Because I disagree with you? No one is stopping you from saying what you want as long as you do it in a decent way. No one is stopping me from getting annoyed at the the blame shifting you do either and me calling you on it.

Yet no one seems to have the testacular fortitude in Congress to speak out and call for it to be suspended, why is that?

Could it be because it's an election year?

I rest my case.

You do every time you bring it up. and I quote. "OMG NOT AGAIN! " That to me is bringing up the past.

Yes priors have done nothing but how long has bush been talking about the border and a guest worker program? Long before the dems jumped on the band wagon.

He has three more years to "Do something" and if and when it gets done i'm sure it won't be him that "did" it.

The problem is personal opinion.I'm not telling you to ban me. I'm saying i'm not going to stop talking about clinton or whoever?

No, but IMO you are the one making it an issue. No one is stopping me but some are trying. I think I have always remained decent even in the heat of debate. I know i annoy, some see it a shifting blame. I can live with it.

I also agree that shooting the illegal immigrants, providing medical attn, then sending them home would be a bit costly and wasteful.

I agree with the wall, but who's going to guard it? I don't care how tall, deep, or thick you make it, they'll still find ways over here.

Cause I get sick of seeing you displace blame.



So what? They talk about it? Goodie. He has had 6 years to talk about it and has only 3 years to do something about it now, of which nothing is being done.



Of course not. It's a conspiracy by the media.



I'll just ignore the clinton remarks then and let you shift blame and live in a world where Bush is A+ President and Clinton is a loser.. yet Bush has made many of the same mistkes. :dunno:

Cause I get sick of seeing you displace blame.

So what? They talk about it? Goodie. He has had 6 years to talk about it and has only 3 years to do something about it now, of which nothing is being done.

Of course not. It's a conspiracy by the media.

I'll just ignore the clinton remarks then and let you shift blame and live in a world where Bush is A+ President and Clinton is a loser.. yet Bush has made many of the same mistkes.