Al Gore Accused of Attempted Rape

@oralloy,

When you realise you have bigoted opinions then you would realise the term is correct. One who is blindly devoted to creed or party..Your blind devotion to the republican party has blinkered your views and colours your judgement. As has been pointed out Bush was accused of rape but for you it is irrelevant, without foundation but Al Gore gets accused and you assume guilt. Your bigoted rhetoric is evident.

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@oralloy,

And that attitude is what makes you a dolt. Either you honestly believe that's what you're doing, which makes you a dolt, or you're being disingenuous, which makes you a dolt.

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@okie,

okie wrote:

Example of something relatively unreported, BillRM:

http://able2know.org/topic/126555-39#post-4190135

that's great, call the new york times

i believe that bush, cheney, rumsfeld knew about 9/11, i'm fairly confident that they planned the attacks with the help of al queda, the tooth fairy and the abominable snowman

i got more hunches if you want, i could have the everybody on capitol hill on death row (what a great thought that is) by this afternoon if you give me a few hours, and use this criteria as evidence

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@djjd62,

Heh. A unnamed source who "believes" something is a smoking gun, I guess.

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@oralloy,

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Based on all previous times where you've attacked me for some position you've convinced yourself that I've taken, I estimate that you'll generate about 10 pages worth of posts on this tangent before it dawns on you that I'm not actually saying Gore is guilty of the crime. Rather, I am criticizing people who want to give him (and any other Democratic leader) a pass without even considering the question of whether or not he is guilty.

Believe it or not, I did consider the possibility of it being true. I read the entire police report, something I don't think you really did given your responses. Like I said, I don't doubt something went on, but I don't buy her whole story as it just didn't ring true or credible to me.

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@oralloy,

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I am criticizing people who want to give him (and any other Democratic leader) a pass without even considering the question of whether or not he is guilty.

So, do you want to rescind this statement in light of the fact that Bush was accused of rape?

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Vote for Republicans if you want to support a party that will not tolerate their leaders being rapists.

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@BillRM,

BillRM wrote:

No proof needed of any kind just someone making a charge is good enough.

That works on Republicans, so why not Democrats? Haven't we heard it is the seriousness of the charge that is important, not whether it is credible or not? And don't forget Dan Rather's forged documents special report a day or two right before a federal election. To this day, not a single reporter has had the gumption to do enough investigative reporting to find out who committed the felony crime of forging the documents that Rather featured in his special news hit piece on George Bush.

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@xris,

xris wrote:

When you realise you have bigoted opinions then you would realise the term is correct. One who is blindly devoted to creed or party..Your blind devotion to the republican party has blinkered your views and colours your judgement. As has been pointed out Bush was accused of rape but for you it is irrelevant, without foundation but Al Gore gets accused and you assume guilt. Your bigoted rhetoric is evident.

Simply switch parties and look in the mirror, and you might have a point. Talk about blind devotion to a corrupt party owned by the socialist George Soros, you fit the bill.

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@okie,

both sides have blind devotion to corrupt parties

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@djjd62,

djjd62 wrote:

i believe that bush, cheney, rumsfeld knew about 9/11, i'm fairly confident that they planned the attacks with the help of al queda, the tooth fairy and the abominable snowman

Corrupt Chicago and Illinois politics and Obama is reality, djjd62, not the tooth fairy stuff you are comparing things to.

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@okie,

yes but the examples cited were that two people attached to the accused, believed and were fairly confident that Obama knew, hardly the stuff that convictions are based on

my theories have just as much weight

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@djjd62,

Oh come on, you are comparing some wild eyed conspiracy theory about 9/11 with no evidence whatsoever to sworn testimony in court. And after all, we already know Obama would love to have had Valerie Jarrett assume a position in the Senate. And we are not talking about anything out of character for Obama. The situation is totally different with Bush and Cheney, you are talking about honest people that love their country knowing about 9/11 or planning it, which is total and complete garbage put out by insane and paranoid liberals. The 9/11 crap is nothing but insanity, while the corrupt Obama we know is consistent with the man's history, he would pull any string necessary or appropriate to get his way. He is after all a cheap and corrupt Chicago politician that somehow managed to become president by running a superb campaign, thats it, thats the sum of it.

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@okie,

okie wrote:

The situation is totally different with Bush and Cheney, you are talking about honest people that love their country knowing about 9/11 or planning it, which is total and complete garbage put out by insane and paranoid liberals.

one of the things that republicans need to get over is this "only republicans love their country", i'm guessing that as many republicans as liberals, are indifferent to their country and use politics as a chance to get somewhere else in their life

as for who pushes the 9/11 conspiracy, most of what i've heard seems to come from libertarians or independents, most of those folks don't trust the established political parties

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@djjd62,

djjd62, I think what the issue really becomes is judgement of character, and although Bush and Cheney were demonized by the Left for years, along with a willing liberal press, it is my opinion that Bush and Cheney both are very decent people. Part of the reason I stated that about loving their country is the fact that I really believe they do. I have a much more difficult time believing folks like Obama love America, I have my doubts. In fact, I think he loves his own political career alot more than he does this country. I think he has much of the same attitude as his mentor, Jeremiah Wright, I think he has long held resentments and beliefs that America has been unfair and a rotten country, and it needs to be straightened out, and he is the man to do it. And many other ultra liberal and radical Democrats feel the same way as he does.

I know this is a very controversial thing to say, but I really do believe more Republicans love their country. I have no doubts many Democrats do as well, but I think there are many extreme liberal Democrats that have deeply held resentments toward America, moreso than Republicans. Why do you think Obama was shouting "change" so constantly that it became his battle cry during the campaign. He really did not like America as it has been and as it was.

In regard to libertarians and independents being behind the 9/11 conspiracy theories, I doubt it, but I would be willing to look at any evidence you could dredge up. I think rather that the people behind such theories are the radicals, the Michael Moore types, the ultra leftists that think America is evil, and that rich Republican capitalists are the evil people behind it all, perhaps even also believing the rich Jews are involved as well. When you get right down to it, the mindset is not far from that of the Jeremiah Wrights of the world, and he is no libertarian or independent, I can assure you of that.

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@okie,

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The situation is totally different with Bush and Cheney, you are talking about honest people that love their country knowing about 9/11 or planning it,

"honest"!!??, what a crock of ****, Okie. That is not a word that can be used to describe either Cheney or Bush. Whatever their involvement in 9-11, they were too dishonest to try to make the 9-11 Commission a real get at the truth event.

They didn't want one, then when it did come they were far from honest. The chairmen knew from the get go that Bush was lying and that sabotaged the whole affair.

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The 9/11 Commission Rejects own Report as Based on Government Lies

In 2006, The Washington Post reported…”Suspicion of wrongdoing ran so deep that the 10-member commission, in a secret meeting at the end of its tenure in summer 2004, debated referring the matter to the Justice Department for criminal investigation, according to several commission sources. Staff members and some commissioners thought that e-mails and other evidence provided enough probable cause to believe that military and aviation officials violated the law by making false statements to Congress and to the commission…”
(CINCINNATI, Ohio) – In John Farmer’s book: “The Ground Truth: The Story Behind America’s Defense on 9/11″, the author builds the inescapably convincing case that the official version… is almost entirely untrue…
The 9/11 Commission now tells us that the official version of 9/11 was based on false testimony and documents and is almost entirely untrue. The details of this massive cover-up are carefully outlined in a book by John Farmer, who was the Senior Counsel for the 9/11 Commission.
Farmer, Dean of Rutger Universities’ School of Law and former Attorney General of New Jersey, was responsible for drafting the original flawed 9/11 report.
Does Farmer have cooperation and agreement from other members of the Commission? Yes. Did they say Bush ordered 9/11? No.

Do they say that the 9/11 Commission was lied to by the FBI, CIA, Whitehouse and NORAD? Yes. Is there full documentary proof of this? Yes.

Farmer states…“at some level of the government, at some point in time…there was an agreement not to tell the truth about what happened… I was shocked at how different the truth was from the way it was described …. The [Norad air defense] tapes told a radically different story from what had been told to us and the public for two years. This is not spin.”
The 9/11 Commission head, Thomas Kean, was the Republican governor of New Jersey. He had the following to say… “We to this day don’t know why NORAD [the North American Aerospace Command] told us what they told us, it was just so far from the truth. . . ” When Bush’s own handpicked commission failed to go along with the cover up and requested a criminal investigation, why was nothing done?

http://spktruth2power.wordpress.com/2010/01/25/the-911-commission-rejects-own-report-as-based-on-government-lies/

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@okie,

When I display blind adherence to a party, then you can make that claim. When I accuse bush of rape without criminal conviction , then you can call me bigoted...

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@okie,

In other word any means can be employed to attacked people you do not agree with up to and including giving weight to charges you would not consider for one second if it happen to be directed at someone you do happen to agree with.

That seem to back my feelings that the right wingers of this country have no real morals or principals and to them the ends more then justify the means.

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@okie,

i'm not going to argue your feelings towards bush/cheney other than to say your attitude is precisely why i don't align myself with any particular party, one of my pet peeves with folks is partisan politics, i think it's led both parties to the state their in, an electorate voting blindly along party lines to spite the other, a first past the post wins to the exclusion of wether or not that person deserves it (and then there are the pitiful candidates both parties choose to run)

as for who backs the 9/11 conspirators, most of my knowledge is based on the highly entertaining radio show Coast to Coast AM (yes i view it as entertainment), the main guests that have talked about 9/11 seem what i would class as independents, and one of the most vocal in the mainstream press former Governor Jesse Ventura is registered as an independent

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@okie,

okie wrote:

To this day, not a single reporter has had the gumption to do enough investigative reporting to find out who committed the felony crime of forging the documents that Rather featured in his special news hit piece on George Bush.

That's because the guy who forged the documents admitted it when CBS asked him. I don't think giving made up documents to a reporter is a felony although Bush could have sued in civil court for libel. Back to Gore, if there is any Democrat who seems to meet your "love of country" standard, it would be Gore. Clean record, history of family service, didn't approve of Clinton's escapades, etc. (Actually, much better than Cheney who had numerous conflicts of interests.) Do you extend to him the benefit of the doubt you extended to Bush?

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@djjd62,

djjd62 wrote:

as for who backs the 9/11 conspirators, most of my knowledge is based on the highly entertaining radio show Coast to Coast AM (yes i view it as entertainment), the main guests that have talked about 9/11 seem what i would class as independents, and one of the most vocal in the mainstream press former Governor Jesse Ventura is registered as an independent

Interesting. In fact, I think I heard somebody interview Ventura and heard him make the same insinuations or accusations. Although we can all agree Ventura is an interesting and unique wrestler turned politician, at least I recall him doing something like wrestling, but face it, the guy is a bit far out and maybe not quite all there in terms of mental balance or thinking, don't ya think?

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