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Al Gore Accused of Attempted Rape

 
 
okie
 
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Reply Tue 29 Jun, 2010 10:47 am
@engineer,
engineer wrote:
That's because the guy who forged the documents admitted it when CBS asked him. I don't think giving made up documents to a reporter is a felony although Bush could have sued in civil court for libel.
I think it is a felony to forge documents like that however, so why hasn't the guy been prosecuted, how about that question? And it is also a felony to try to alter a federal election, and that is what Rather did when he reported false information, possibly knowingly. I think Bush should have sued them for it, but being the gentleman and man dedicated to the job of president, he devoted his life to being president instead of the distractions of a lawsuit.
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Back to Gore, if there is any Democrat who seems to meet your "love of country" standard, it would be Gore. Clean record, history of family service, didn't approve of Clinton's escapades, etc. (Actually, much better than Cheney who had numerous conflicts of interests.) Do you extend to him the benefit of the doubt you extended to Bush?

I do believe Gore loves his country, however the man is seriously misguided and more than hung up on himself, and this should be more than evident when you consider his environmental whackoism and hypocrisy.
engineer
 
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Reply Tue 29 Jun, 2010 11:02 am
@okie,
okie wrote:

I think it is a felony to forge documents like that however, so why hasn't the guy been prosecuted, how about that question?

Because it is not a felony to give false papers to a reporter. If there were charges somewhere in there, it was the Bush Justice Department that chose not to do anything, so I don't think you can lay that down at the press's feet.
okie wrote:
And it is also a felony to try to alter a federal election, and that is what Rather did when he reported false information, possibly knowingly.

Not only is it not against the law "to alter" a federal election in the way you describe, it is common and part of our election process. What do you think Rush Limbaugh is doing daily? Or Fox News? Or the Daily Show? Free speech or political speech does not require the you tell the truth or even fact check. We see that daily from both sides of the spectrum.
okie wrote:
engineer wrote:

Back to Gore, if there is any Democrat who seems to meet your "love of country" standard, it would be Gore. Clean record, history of family service, didn't approve of Clinton's escapades, etc. (Actually, much better than Cheney who had numerous conflicts of interests.) Do you extend to him the benefit of the doubt you extended to Bush?

I do believe Gore loves his country, however the man is seriously misguided and more than hung up on himself, and this should be more than evident when you consider his environmental whackoism and hypocrisy.

OK, but given his love of country do you extend to him the same benefit of the doubt that you extend to Cheney? You might not like his policies, but his personal behavior has always been above reproach. If you can't extend your trust to him based on that history, then your argument that it's based on personal behavior and not politics falls apart.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Tue 29 Jun, 2010 11:12 am
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:
oralloy wrote:
It isn't unheard-of for a rape victim to not want to go through a trial.


And at the same time is both willing and eager to sell her story so it can be read by millions of people?


It's possible.
oralloy
 
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Reply Tue 29 Jun, 2010 11:13 am
@xris,
xris wrote:
When you realise you have bigoted opinions then you would realise the term is correct. One who is blindly devoted to creed or party..Your blind devotion to the republican party has blinkered your views and colours your judgement. As has been pointed out Bush was accused of rape but for you it is irrelevant, without foundation but Al Gore gets accused and you assume guilt. Your bigoted rhetoric is evident.


It seems that you are not able to comprehend the meaning of the term "bigoted".
Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Tue 29 Jun, 2010 11:13 am
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:

BillRM wrote:
oralloy wrote:
It isn't unheard-of for a rape victim to not want to go through a trial.


And at the same time is both willing and eager to sell her story so it can be read by millions of people?


It's possible.


Nearly anything is possible. The question is, is it likely? And the answer is no - it's extremely unlikely.

The police have stated that there is no basis to this and there will be no charges forthcoming, so - I guess you're out of luck on this one.

Cycloptichorn
oralloy
 
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Reply Tue 29 Jun, 2010 11:14 am
@DrewDad,
DrewDad wrote:
And that attitude is what makes you a dolt. Either you honestly believe that's what you're doing, which makes you a dolt, or you're being disingenuous, which makes you a dolt.


Or maybe I just don't think Democrats should have a free pass to rape people.
oralloy
 
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Reply Tue 29 Jun, 2010 11:15 am
@revelette,
revelette wrote:
oralloy wrote:
Rather, I am criticizing people who want to give him (and any other Democratic leader) a pass without even considering the question of whether or not he is guilty.


Believe it or not, I did consider the possibility of it being true.


I believe it. If you check, I don't think you'll find I've accused you of being one of the ones who refused to read the report.




revelette wrote:
I read the entire police report, something I don't think you really did given your responses.


No, I read it.




revelette wrote:
Like I said, I don't doubt something went on, but I don't buy her whole story as it just didn't ring true or credible to me.


It rang true for me, though I am not saying it is definitely true.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Tue 29 Jun, 2010 11:15 am
@parados,
parados wrote:
So, do you want to rescind this statement in light of the fact that Bush was accused of rape?

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Vote for Republicans if you want to support a party that will not tolerate their leaders being rapists.


I've never seen the Republicans try to lynch a woman for saying she was sexually assaulted.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Tue 29 Jun, 2010 11:15 am
@xris,
xris wrote:
When I display blind adherence to a party, then you can make that claim. When I accuse bush of rape without criminal conviction , then you can call me bigoted...


I accuse you of using words without having the slightest idea what they mean.
oralloy
 
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Reply Tue 29 Jun, 2010 11:28 am
@Cycloptichorn,
Cycloptichorn wrote:
oralloy wrote:
BillRM wrote:
oralloy wrote:
It isn't unheard-of for a rape victim to not want to go through a trial.


And at the same time is both willing and eager to sell her story so it can be read by millions of people?


It's possible.


Nearly anything is possible. The question is, is it likely? And the answer is no - it's extremely unlikely.


Not really. Her story is plausible.




Cycloptichorn wrote:
The police have stated that there is no basis to this and there will be no charges forthcoming,


Nonsense. The police did not pursue charges because the alleged victim was not willing to cooperate with criminal charges. They did not say there was no basis to it.




Cycloptichorn wrote:
so - I guess you're out of luck on this one.

Cycloptichorn


Nope. I'm good. I even have my morals intact, seeing as I've never tried to lynch a woman for saying she was sexually assaulted.
Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Tue 29 Jun, 2010 11:35 am
@oralloy,
Quote:
Nonsense. The police did not pursue charges because the alleged victim was not willing to cooperate with criminal charges. They did not say there was no basis to it.


They effectively did say that. If the victim is unwilling to cooperate, that's the first sign that the story is bullshit - and they know it. Otherwise, why not just testify? She doesn't even have to appear in court if she doesn't want to.

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Nope. I'm good. I even have my morals intact, seeing as I've never tried to lynch a woman for saying she was sexually assaulted.


No, you just advocate murdering innocent Italian students on a daily basis. You made a comment to someone a few pages back, about facing God and owning up to one's opinions; how exactly do you plan on explaining that one?

Cycloptichorn
JTT
 
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Reply Tue 29 Jun, 2010 11:47 am
@okie,
Quote:
I think Bush should have sued them for it, but being the gentleman and man dedicated to the job of president, he devoted his life to being president instead of the distractions of a lawsuit.


Both Cheney and Bush know full well that if they ever got anywhere near a court of law, they would both be doing time for perjury. Neither of them would get much past stating their name.
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xris
 
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Reply Tue 29 Jun, 2010 12:16 pm
@oralloy,
I accuse you of bigoted rhetoric.
oralloy
 
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Reply Tue 29 Jun, 2010 12:21 pm
@Cycloptichorn,
Cycloptichorn wrote:
oralloy wrote:
Nonsense. The police did not pursue charges because the alleged victim was not willing to cooperate with criminal charges. They did not say there was no basis to it.


They effectively did say that.


They said nothing of the sort.



Cycloptichorn wrote:
If the victim is unwilling to cooperate, that's the first sign that the story is bullshit - and they know it.


Nope. As police they will be well aware that many victims of sexual assault do not want to testify or have a trial.



Cycloptichorn wrote:
oralloy wrote:
Nope. I'm good. I even have my morals intact, seeing as I've never tried to lynch a woman for saying she was sexually assaulted.


No, you just advocate murdering innocent Italian students on a daily basis.


Again, my comment had *nothing* to do with the rate of killing.

As far as I'm concerned they can chain a thousand Italian honors students to a few tons of C-4 and turn the lot of them into a red mist in a millisecond.

No need for it to be a "daily" occurrence.


And your terms "murdering innocent" implies both that citizens of Italy can be innocent and that citizens of Italy count somehow as human beings.

I reject both propositions.



Cycloptichorn wrote:
You made a comment to someone a few pages back, about facing God and owning up to one's opinions; how exactly do you plan on explaining that one?

Cycloptichorn


I'm sure God understands the need to exterminate citizens of Italy.
oralloy
 
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Reply Tue 29 Jun, 2010 12:23 pm
@xris,
xris wrote:
I accuse you of bigoted rhetoric.


Yes, but you are not smart enough to understand the words you are using.
DrewDad
 
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Reply Tue 29 Jun, 2010 12:27 pm
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:

DrewDad wrote:
And that attitude is what makes you a dolt. Either you honestly believe that's what you're doing, which makes you a dolt, or you're being disingenuous, which makes you a dolt.


Or maybe I just don't think Democrats should have a free pass to rape people.

Or maybe you should have just stopped that sentence after "think."
Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Tue 29 Jun, 2010 12:27 pm
@oralloy,
Quote:


And your terms "murdering innocent" implies both that citizens of Italy can be innocent and that citizens of Italy count somehow as human beings.

I reject both propositions.


Conversation over

Cycloptichorn
djjd62
 
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Reply Tue 29 Jun, 2010 12:35 pm
@Cycloptichorn,
one can only hope if there is a god, he/she is italian, that would make for an interesting meeting when ol' moral oral dies
oralloy
 
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Reply Tue 29 Jun, 2010 12:59 pm
@DrewDad,
DrewDad wrote:
oralloy wrote:
DrewDad wrote:
And that attitude is what makes you a dolt. Either you honestly believe that's what you're doing, which makes you a dolt, or you're being disingenuous, which makes you a dolt.


Or maybe I just don't think Democrats should have a free pass to rape people.


Or maybe you should have just stopped that sentence after "think."


No end to the childishness that spews forth when you suggest that Democratic leaders should obey the law.....
oralloy
 
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Reply Tue 29 Jun, 2010 01:00 pm
@djjd62,
djjd62 wrote:
one can only hope if there is a god, he/she is italian, that would make for an interesting meeting when ol' moral oral dies


Why would you hope for such evil?

Anyway, no chance that will be the case.
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