@salima,
salima;101726 wrote:i always feel very sad when i hear indian people saying they want to go to america. a lot of them think i am crazy for coming here. i tell them all the things they dont know about their country that are worthwhile to me-but all of them, every one i have talked to so far, has had that gleam in their eye, the lust for gold. very few who go there ever come back, even when they intend to.
but when people have a terrible life in their own country, i can understand them wanting to leave and i dont think they would choose america in particular-they want to go anywhere they think they wont be killed. that is another reason for my believing that the people who answered the survey were motivated by greed.
i dont have any patriotic feelings for any country, i try to see the world without boundaries. as far as i am concerned, the whole world should have an open door policy. so i cant really maintain a practical point of view on the issues behind the poll.
I may be wrong on this, and I will say that in advance, but many Indians seem to come to this land with a foo attitude towards us... They take head ache jobs, the kind not many of us want because of the hours and the labor involved, and they make it a family affair as much as possible... If they break all of our labor laws who does it help???They seem to get right into the hotel motel business...From my experience their product is not any better or cheaper than anyone else's, But they are perhaps living heads and shoulders above others in India...I fear that they will bring the faults of their society here, that is, the very problems they seek to escape... Sure, the world would like to escape poverty, but if they are really used to poverty they can bring down our standard of living without raising theirs significantly... If the point is that they can come here and breed themselves out of resources because their culture prizes life, and cannot adapt to a world were life is easier, and childhood death is more uncommon then their problems will follow them...
I talk to strangers of all sorts in this land... When I hear a strange accent I cannot place, I try to ask its origin... I do not prejudge people, but try to offer a welcoming hand because cultural diversity is a virtue for a country to a point...But it is not my good will that protects these sojouners... Around the world where America and England have held sway a system of laws remains...It is just a guess, but the white population of this country though fewer in number is very frustrated with the selling of America and with the seemingly uncontrolled import of others.... What if law is the only thing that is protecting those in this world who are seen as preying upon native populations... The great fear of democracy world wide is that when it has gotten a hold of people they tend to take out their frustrations on foreign peoples in their midst who are seen as united, and cooperative in their exploitation of natives... I have heard this of the Jews, the Chinese, and the Indians...Is law enough to protect anyone when the law is seen as protecting the minority in the exploitation of the majority??? We need to ask the Jewish survivors of the holocaust, though they are every day fewer in number... So often, the rich could escape and they left the poor of their kind to suffer the rath of insane... My answer is that people need to be able to keep the cultures and treasure their cultures, but must be integrated, and made part of the nation...As long as they feel apart they are capable of any crime...
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Poseidon;101914 wrote:Having lived nearly all my life in sub-saharan Africa, I can say that I would not really think anywhere else is worth trying to live in.
But before I travelled elsewhere I did not believe that.
There are 2 types of people in this world:
1) those who run from problems
2) those who try and solve them
The first type are called immigrants. Do you really want people in your country that are cowards? Large numbers of white south africans left here after the mess they caused during apartheid. Most often its those that cause the problems that run away from them afterwards.
We must want cowards in this land because we cultivate them... Fear is one of our greatest political motivators, and it us used liberally...The thing is, that under western law the emphasis is on peace...If you are dispossessed of something and take it back by force you give a better title to the original thief, and since that sort of thieving happens under the protection of law, usually peacefully, not with a gun, but with economic leverage, what can anyone do...Even the Muslims who differ from us in having an absolute right to justice have a great encouragement toward peace... People do not want to fight and die so long as there is an option, and they think of immigration as an option...Well the problem is ours too... We should give others justice, and encourage justice, but open our doors to only a few...Our damned Christianity and our priests handing out medicine and food are a part of the problem, and they should be stopped... What good is it to save a man from starving if he must end up killing to have enough in the future??? It is not God's will that people should see themselves destroyed by overpopulation, war, and plague... Those are choices people make by not making good choices....