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Israel Kills 10 in Palestinian Aid Convoy

 
 
oralloy
 
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Reply Sat 5 Jun, 2010 08:00 pm
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Six of the nine passengers killed in an Israeli raid on an aid convoy bound for Gaza were shot by a single Israeli commando, who is being considered for a medal of valour for saving his injured comrades as passengers attacked them with clubs, knives and even guns they had taken from downed Navy Seals.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article7144099.ece


A hero.
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msolga
 
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Reply Sat 5 Jun, 2010 11:18 pm
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Thousands of anti-Israel demonstrators take to the streets throughout Europe
Published 03:45 06.06.10
Latest update 03:45 06.06.10
By Danna Harman/Haaretz


BERLIN - From Frankfurt to Berlin to Dusseldorf - thousands of anti-Israel protesters marched across Germany yesterday, hoisting Palestinian flags and calling for action against the "massacre" aboard the Mavi Marmara.

There are an estimated 2.8 million Turks or Germans of Turkish origin in Germany. Eleven Germans were aboard the Mavi Marmara.

"We want justice for our comrades killed!" said Hamit Savas, a kefiyyeh-wearing protester in Berlin. "We insist on an end to the insane blockade of Gaza and freedom for our brother Palestinians."

Paris, London and Dublin saw similar protests. In Dublin, protesters were angry not only about the Marmara, but also about Israel's stopping the Rachel Corrie yesterday, which carried Irish activists.

In Sweden, dockworkers announced yesterday that Israeli ships trying to dock and unload goods would be "ignored" next week. A spokesman for the 1,500 strong Swedish Port Workers Union said it's workers are being told to refuse handling Israeli goods and ships during the June 15-24 boycott. A union spokesman, Peter Annerback, said the dock workers would use "detective work" to figure out if any Israeli goods were arriving on non-Israeli ships. He urged other unions to join in similar initiatives. Seven Swedish citizens were detained on board the Gaza-bound flotilla.

Norway announced yesterday it was canceling an upcoming special operations seminar because the Defense Ministry objected to the inclusion of an Israeli army officer in the program.
A spokeswoman, Maj. Heidi Langvik-Hansen, said it was "not the right time" to hear a talk by an Israeli officer [identified only as Colonel Toledano].

In England, in Bournemouth, a coastal resort town with a large Jewish population and a Jewish mayor, there were calls yesterday to cut the city's twinning links with Netanya. In a letter to the local Daily Echo, resident Tony Williams charged that "the latest atrocity' illustrated Israel's "contempt not only for the rule of law but for the opinions of civilized nations throughout the world." Williams said: "Next year in Bournemouth we shall be electing councillors, and it is essential that all candidates standing for election state their position on the Palestine-Israel conflict."

Mayor Barry Golbart said people should work for a "peaceful solution." Golbart said: "Speaking personally, and not as mayor, my position is that I am not an Israeli; I'm a Jewish man living in England. It is an extremely sorry state of affairs, whatever the rights and wrongs of it," he told the Echo.


http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/news/thousands-of-anti-israel-demonstrators-take-to-the-streets-throughout-europe-1.294388
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mysteryman
 
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Reply Sun 6 Jun, 2010 06:20 am
@oralloy,
Unless you are willing to say that the US Coast Guard has a blockade of the US going on, then what Israel is doing is NOT a blockade.
You cant blockade your own waters.

Israel has the legal right to stop any vessel that is within 24 miles of its own coast, to inspect their cargo.
Now, since the US Coast Guard does the same thing for the US, are they blockading us?
NO, they arent.
They are inspecting ships under the rules laid out by UNCLOS.

Only those people that havent read the law want to call it a blockade.
Or those that are anti-Israel.
oralloy
 
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Reply Sun 6 Jun, 2010 09:54 am
@mysteryman,
mysteryman wrote:
Unless you are willing to say that the US Coast Guard has a blockade of the US going on, then what Israel is doing is NOT a blockade.
You cant blockade your own waters.


Gaza is not Israel. Israel is making a wartime blockade of Gaza.



mysteryman wrote:
Only those people that havent read the law want to call it a blockade.
Or those that are anti-Israel.


Or people who understand that Israel is mounting a wartime blockade of Gaza.
mysteryman
 
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Reply Sun 6 Jun, 2010 10:11 am
@oralloy,
Then if its a wartime blockade, there is nothing illegal about it.
If its a wartime blockade, Israel can stop, board, search, and if neccessary destroy any ships trying to run that blockade.

So, either way, its not wrong.

If its a wartime blockade the rules of war apply, if its not a wartime blockade then the UNCLOS applies.
Either way, you cant complain, because Israel is doing nothiing wrong.
JTT
 
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Reply Sun 6 Jun, 2010 11:02 am
@mysteryman,
You should stop blustering and bring yourself up to speed on the war crimes/genocidal actions committed by the USA, MM.
Ionus
 
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Reply Sun 6 Jun, 2010 08:19 pm
@JTT,
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bring yourself up to speed on the war crimes/genocidal actions committed by the USA
For God's sake get counselling and try and salvage what little of a life you have left.
msolga
 
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Reply Sun 6 Jun, 2010 09:43 pm


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Gaza blockade: Iran offers escort to next aid convoy

Ian Black, Middle East editor
guardian.co.uk, Sunday 6 June 2010 21.20 BST


http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2008/07/08/shirazi10b.jpg
Ali Shirazi, an aide to Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, speaks under a picture of the supreme leader in Tehran Hojjatoleslam Ali Shirazi, an aide to Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, pledged Tehran would send Revolutionary Guard units to escort Gaza aid convoys. Photograph: Reuters

Iran has warned that it could send Revolutionary Guard naval units to escort humanitarian aid convoys seeking to break the Israeli blockade of Gaza " a move that would certainly be challenged by Israel.

Any such Iranian involvement, raised today by an aide to the supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, would constitute a serious escalation of already high tensions with Israel, which accuses Tehran of seeking to build a nuclear weapon and of backing Hamas, the Islamist movement that controls Gaza.

"Iran's Revolutionary Guard naval forces are prepared to escort the peace and freedom convoys that carry humanitarian assistance for the defenceless and oppressed people of Gaza with all their strength," pledged Hojjatoleslam Ali Shirazi, Khamenei's personal representative to the guards corps.

The threat came as the Israeli prime minister, Binyamin Netanyahu, dismissed a UN proposal for an international commission to investigate last week's commando assault on aid ships, in which nine people died. Another aid ship, the Rachel Corrie, carrying Irish and other peace activists, was boarded peacefully by Israeli forces on Saturday, escorted to the port of Ashdod, and its passengers deported.

Netanyahu has defended Israel's right to maintain the blockade by arguing that without it Gaza would become an "Iranian port" and Hamas missiles would strike Tel Aviv and Jerusalem. Israel's undeclared aim is to weaken or bring down the Hamas government.

Iran continued to exploit the "freedom flotilla" affair to lambast Israel. Its foreign minister, Manuchehr Mottaki, told the Organisation of the Islamic Conference in Jeddah on Sunday that Israel's crime was "another instance of the Zionist regime's brazen and merciless treatment of Muslims, especially the oppressed Palestinian people."

Mottaki also called for a UN resolution condemning Israel. The security council is discussing imposing new sanctions on Iran because of its failure to meet international demands over its nuclear programme.

Iran and Israel have had no diplomatic relations since the 1979 revolution and President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad regularly predicts the disappearance of the Jewish state as well as denying the Holocaust.

Shirazi said Iran should encourage international efforts to break the blockade. "We should expose our enemies to spontaneous global action and not let them achieve their heinous goals," he was quoted as saying by the semi-official Mehr news agency.

Iran's Revolutionary Guards, which have a command structure separate from the regular armed forces, are fiercely loyal to the supreme leader. Khamenei has attacked the raid as a "mistake" that "showed how barbaric the Zionists are" ...<cont>


http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/jun/06/gaza-blockade-iran-aid-convoy
JTT
 
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Reply Sun 6 Jun, 2010 09:47 pm
@Ionus,
You're just another apologist for war criminals, Ionus. Have you no sense of morality? Little kids brutally murdered, after watching their mothers raped and their breast cut off.

Odd that you don't address the actual criminality. You just try to deflect from the situation. Sounds like you need the counselling.
Ionus
 
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Reply Sun 6 Jun, 2010 10:42 pm
@JTT,
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Little kids brutally murdered, after watching their mothers raped and their breast cut off.
?????This is very exciting for you isnt it ? Do you know where this fantasy of yours is supposed to have taken place ?
JTT
 
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Reply Mon 7 Jun, 2010 10:59 am
@Ionus,
Still trying to deny the brutality, the murder, the rape, the torture. Your 24 years of "experience" have brainwashed you well.
Ionus
 
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Reply Mon 7 Jun, 2010 05:14 pm
@JTT,
I repeat :
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Little kids brutally murdered, after watching their mothers raped and their breast cut off.
?????This is very exciting for you isnt it ? Do you know where this fantasy of yours is supposed to have taken place ?
JTT
 
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Reply Mon 7 Jun, 2010 06:13 pm
@Ionus,
Repeat all you want to slimy little smear of excrement. I've provided sources showing the extent of the war crimes, the extent of the terrorist actions, and admissions to both from US government sources and officials.

All you've done is try to explain them away, to divert attention from them, with, with nothing at all in your little quiver.
Ionus
 
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Reply Tue 8 Jun, 2010 07:07 pm
@JTT,
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with nothing at all in your little quiver.
Actually I have an arrow not a quiver and it is not little.
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I've provided sources showing the extent of the war crimes,
Sure you have. Dont stop the therapy just yet.
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All you've done is try to explain them away
As when I said...??
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to divert attention from them
You mean divert attention away from terrorists because they wont listen to you and if you criticsed them they would kill you....as opposed to the establishemnt which sees it as your right and men have died to defend it even when freedom is in the hands of a mentally damaged fool like you ?
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msolga
 
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Reply Wed 9 Jun, 2010 06:34 pm
I hope this small post doesn't prompt a new round of boy fighting. Neutral Wink

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Gaza-Egypt border to stay open
JASON KOUTSOUKIS, JERUSALEM
June 10, 2010/the AGE


EGYPT will open its border with Gaza indefinitely, partially ending the three-year siege of the tiny Palestinian enclave that is blockaded by Israel.

After Israeli commandos stormed a Turkish-flagged ship attempting to break the siege last week, killing nine passengers, Egyptian authorities opened the Rafah border crossing with Gaza for people only.

Strong popular expressions of support within Egypt for the plight of Gaza's 1.5 million residents appear to have persuaded President Hosni Mubarak to keep the border open.

Yesterday a spokesman for the Egyptian Foreign Ministry, Hossam Zaki, said the Rafah crossing that connects Gaza to Egypt would ''remain open indefinitely until further notice''.

''Egypt is the one that is breaking the blockade,'' said Mr Zaki. ''We will not allow the [Israeli] occupation to evade its responsibility.''

With US Vice-President Joe Biden in Cairo this week for meetings with Mr Mubarak, it is likely the decision was made with the approval of the Obama administration.

Since June 2007, Egypt has opened the Rafah crossing only intermittently, effectively joining with Israel to maintain the Gaza blockade as a way of weakening Hamas, the Islamic resistance movement that controls Gaza.

According to Israeli human rights group Gisha, Egyptian authorities have allowed an average of 3192 people to cross the border with Rafah each month since 2007, compared with an average 40,000 who crossed the border before the closure. ...<cont>


http://www.theage.com.au/world/gazaegypt-border-to-stay-open-20100609-xwr6.html
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failures art
 
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Reply Wed 9 Jun, 2010 06:52 pm
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Israelis Explain, and Mock, Flotilla Clash
By ROBERT MACKEY


Last Updated | Sunday | 12:15 p.m. On Friday, The Jerusalem Post published the accounts of an Israeli commando who took part in Monday’s deadly raid on a ship challenging the naval blockade of Gaza. The day before, a columnist for the right-leaning Israeli newspaper released a satirical music video, “We Con the World,” which suggests that the activists on board the flotilla were, in fact, violent provocateurs.

In the interviews, the commando described the beginning of the raid, which took place before dawn on Monday, and is still shrouded in some mystery, in part because Israel has so far refused to release all of the video filmed during the raid by its military and by journalists and activists on the ship. Instead, the media unit of the Israel Defense Forces has uploaded short, annotated clips to its YouTube channel, edited from its own footage and from some of the video confiscated after the ship was seized.


Full article here: http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/06/04/israelis-explain-and-mock-flotilla-clash/

I think Israel isn't doing itself any favors by playing the PR game here.

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dagmaraka
 
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Reply Thu 10 Jun, 2010 01:22 am
A very unfortunate ethnically targetted court decision in Egypt threatening to withdraw Egyptian citizenship from those who married (Jewish) Israeli women:

http://blog.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2010/06/07/egyptian_court_reinforces_love_fatwa_against_israel

fortunately it is unlikely it will be widely implemented.
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mysteryman
 
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Reply Thu 10 Jun, 2010 08:03 am
This could geet interesting...

http://www.jpost.com/Israel/Article.aspx?id=177789

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I wonder how Turkey would respond?
failures art
 
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Reply Thu 10 Jun, 2010 11:10 am
@mysteryman,
It probably won't happen, but I'd support any effort for man to help each other in aid. Especially when the help crosses ethnic divisions that poison our world.

A
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Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Thu 10 Jun, 2010 02:25 pm
Abdallah Jarbu, Hama Deputy Minister of Religion:

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I condemn whoever believes in normalizing relations with [Israelis], whoever supports sitting down with them, and whoever believes that they are human beings. They are not human beings. They are not people.


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(Jews) want to present themselves to the world as if they have rights, but, in fact, they are foreign bacteria "" a microbe unparalleled in the world.


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May He annihilate this filthy people who have neither religion nor conscience.


Sheik Yunus al-Astal, a Hamas legislator and imam

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suffering by fire is the Jews' destiny in this world and the next...Therefore we are sure that the Holocaust is still to come upon the Jews.


Hamas spokesman Fawzi Barhoum

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Hamas will continue the resistance until the last drop of blood


Dr. Yussuf Al-Sharafi, Hamas representative

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"...the Jewish faith does not wish for peace nor stability, since it is a faith that is based on murder: 'I kill, therefore I am'... Israel is based only on blood and murder in order to exist, and it will disappear, with Allah's will, through blood and Shahids [martyrs]."


Sheikh Dr. Ahmad Bahar, acting Speaker of the Palestinian Legislative

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...but our nation was tested by the cancerous lump, that is the Jews, in the heart of the Arab nation... Be certain that America is on its way to utter destruction, America is wallowing [in blood] today in Iraq and Afghanistan, America is defeated and Israel is defeated, and was defeated in Lebanon and Palestine... Make us victorious over the community of infidels... Allah, take the Jews and their allies, Allah, take the Americans and their allies... Allah, annihilate them completely and do not leave anyone of them."


Khaled Mashaal, Hamas leader

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"[Hamas will] never recognize the legitimacy of the Zionist state that was founded on our land."


Abdel Aziz Rantisi, Hamas leader

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By God, we will not leave one Jew in Palestine. We will fight them with all the strength we have. This is our land, not the Jews..."



Article 7 of the Hamas Covenant provides the following quotation, attributed to Mohammed:

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"The Day of Judgement will not come about until Moslems fight the Jews (killing the Jews), when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say O Moslems, O Abdulla, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him. Only the Gharkad tree, (evidently a certain kind of tree) would not do that because it is one of the trees of the Jews."


Some historical blockades:

Ottoman blockade of Constantinople
British naval blockade of Germany during WWII
US blockade of Japan during WWII
Egypt blockades Straits of Tiran prior to 1967 Arab-Israeli War
US blockades Cuba during 1962 missile crisis
India blockades East Pakistan during Bangladesh War
Egypt blockades Israel during Yom Kippur War
NATO blockades Yugoslavia 1993-1996
Turkey and Azerbaijan blockades Armenia during Nagorno-Karabakh War.

The Washington Post
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/06/02/AR2010060204687.html

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...the things that Gazans say they need most: jobs, reliable electricity and a ticket out.


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Gaza has been turned into a mini-welfare state with a broken economy where food and daily goods are plentiful, but where 80 percent of the population depends on charity. Hospitals, schools, electricity systems and sewage treatment facilities are all in deep disrepair.


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grocery stores are stocked wall-to-wall with everything from fresh Israeli yogurts and hummus to Cocoa Puffs smuggled in from Egypt. Pharmacies look as well-supplied as a typical Rite Aid in the United States.


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"We have microwaves in our homes, not only me, everybody. If you go to a refugee camp, the house is bad, but the people and the equipment are very modern. The problem is the public infrastructure."


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The prohibition on concrete, which Israel says is necessary because Hamas can use it to build bunkers, has forced Palestinians to harvest cement and wire from buildings Israel bombed last year.


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During a typical week in May, Israel allowed in 637 truckloads ferrying 14,069 tons of food, medicine and other supplies.




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