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@H2O MAN,

H2O MAN wrote:

Isn't this how liberals prefer to treat illegal aliens?

This post shows what a lying POS you are. You fail to mention that the Clinton administration was returning the kid to his natural Cuban father, from whom the kid was kidnapped. Second, you fail to mention that there was a crowd of people at the scene protecting the abductors. Typically, you rightists have no credibility.

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@OmSigDAVID,

OmSigDAVID wrote:

OmSigDAVID wrote:
My question is HOW u can find it.

engineer wrote:
Google "Elian Gonzalez raid"

I did that and I found the picture.
How do u take it and move it and post it here ?

David, right click on the photo you want to copy and scroll down to "Properties". Right click on properties and highlight with your mouse. Once it is highlighted, right click and select 'Copy'.

It will look like this:

http://cdn-www.cracked.com/phpimages/article/9/8/6/22986.jpg?v=1

Paste the above into your post, highlight it and then click on the 'Img' button at the top of the reply box.

Should work...I think lol.

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@Advocate,

Advocate wrote:

H2O MAN wrote:

Isn't this how liberals prefer to treat illegal aliens?

This post shows what a lying POS you are.

Damn! You are almost as dense as Cyclotroll!

I didn't make a statement, I posed a question.

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@Advocate,

H2O MAN wrote:

Isn't this how liberals prefer to treat illegal aliens?

Advocate wrote:

This post shows what a lying POS you are. You fail to mention that the Clinton administration was returning the kid to his natural Cuban father, from whom the kid was kidnapped. Second, you fail to mention that there was a crowd of people at the scene protecting the abductors. Typically, you rightists have no credibility.

Clinton sent the boy to an unfit father: he is a communist.
Now, the boy lives in communist slavery, for no reason. He was free.
U lied about his being kidnapped: he was rescued by his mother
who perished in the effort. Her last effort, for her son's freedom was nullified.
That was like forcing him back into a burning house from which he had escaped, back into slavery.

If the father were a drunk or a dope addict, then maybe,
but for the boy to sacrifice his freedom is ineffably monstrous; only a sadist coud approve.

David

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@Irishk,

Irishk wrote:

OmSigDAVID wrote:

OmSigDAVID wrote:
My question is HOW u can find it.

engineer wrote:
Google "Elian Gonzalez raid"

I did that and I found the picture.
How do u take it and move it and post it here ?

David, right click on the photo you want to copy and scroll down to "Properties".
Right click on properties and highlight with your mouse.
Once it is highlighted, right click and select 'Copy'.

It will look like this:

http://cdn-www.cracked.com/phpimages/article/9/8/6/22986.jpg?v=1

Paste the above into your post, highlight it and then click on the 'Img' button at the top of the reply box.

Should work...I think lol.

Thank u very much, K. Very kind of u.

David

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The problem Latino Activists and Liberal Supremacists have with Arizona's law is that the new
law is being enforced, they weren't upset with the federal law because it wasn't being enforced.

Neither group, Latino Activists & Liberal Supremacists want any immigration laws enforced.

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There is a world of difference
between refugees from communist slavery in Cuba
and intruders from Mexico.

David

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@OmSigDAVID,

OmSigDAVID wrote:

Thank u very much, K. Very kind of u.

You're most welcome. I forgot to mention the 'property' you need is the address/url of the photo, which will usually end in .jpg or .gif. Then it's just a matter of pasting that address/url into your reply and encasing it with the image tags ...[img] and [/img]...which you can do manually or by using the Img button.

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How many of the individuals crossing our southern borders illegally are OTM?

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This is interesting.
It seems that the people calling for a boycott of Az are also going to have to boycott Ca.
It seems that Ca has almost the exact same law regarding illegal immigrants that Az does.

In section 834b of the Ca penal code, we see this...

Quote:

834b. (a) Every law enforcement agency in California shall fully
cooperate with the United States Immigration and Naturalization
Service regarding any person who is arrested if he or she is
suspected of being present in the United States in violation of
federal immigration laws.
(b) With respect to any such person who is arrested, and suspected
of being present in the United States in violation of federal
immigration laws, every law enforcement agency shall do the
following:
(1) Attempt to verify the legal status of such person as a citizen
of the United States, an alien lawfully admitted as a permanent
resident, an alien lawfully admitted for a temporary period of time
or as an alien who is present in the United States in violation of
immigration laws. The verification process may include, but shall not
be limited to, questioning the person regarding his or her date and
place of birth, and entry into the United States, and demanding
documentation to indicate his or her legal status.
(2) Notify the person of his or her apparent status as an alien
who is present in the United States in violation of federal
immigration laws and inform him or her that, apart from any criminal
justice proceedings, he or she must either obtain legal status or
leave the United States.
(3) Notify the Attorney General of California and the United
States Immigration and Naturalization Service of the apparent illegal
status and provide any additional information that may be requested
by any other public entity.
(c) Any legislative, administrative, or other action by a city,
county, or other legally authorized local governmental entity with
jurisdictional boundaries, or by a law enforcement agency, to prevent
or limit the cooperation required by subdivision (a) is expressly
prohibited

http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/displaycode?section=pen&group=00001-01000&file=833-851.90

So, whats the difference between that and the AZ law?

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@mysteryman,

There is a huge difference between the two.

The key phrase in the California law is "who is arrested". This means that if someone steals someone's purse, or stabs someone... the police will check their immigration status.

The key phrase in Arizona is "lawful contact". This means that if a policeman wants to question someone who looks illegal-- all they have to do is investigate a complaint of music too loud, or "find" a busted taillight, or see someone jaywalking. Soccer games can be "investigated" for being to noisy. In short, if a cop in Arizona wants to check your papers... they can easily find a reason.

In Arizona-- rape victims will be investigated and possibly detained. In California (as rape victims are not arrested in California) women can report rape without becoming a target of investigation.

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@mysteryman,

No, that's not the same.

CA's statute says "arrested, and suspected".

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@mysteryman,

I would say there are 2 factors that separate california from arizona regarding illegal immigration law (1) the perception of the arizona law is blatant racism and (2) the potential enforcement could be discriminatory. Image can be everything.

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Arizona officials have requested that Obama deploy the National Guard.

Do you think Obama will help the US citizens in Arizona?

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@H2O MAN,

Help them to do what? Import more heroin? Generate more hatred?

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@dyslexia,

I agree about image.

But both the Ca law and the Az law are essentially the same.
The difference is, at least to me, that Az is actually going to enforce the law.

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@H2O MAN,

H2O MAN wrote:

Arizona officials have requested that Obama deploy the National Guard.

On more security for the border issue, I think it has become something of a bi-partisan issue...maybe because it's an election year?

Here's Jon Hulburd's statement on illegal immigration from his campaign website. He's a Democrat who is looking to win the seat of retiring Republican John Shadegg. (Emphasis: Hulburd):

Quote:

One of the most important issues facing Arizona is its 350-mile border with Mexico. This is not simply an issue of illegal immigration. It is a potential point of entry for terrorists as well as an avenue for cartel violence that is intensifying on the Mexican side of the border.
These unscrupulous criminals have paramilitary resources and will do whatever it takes to sustain their business of smuggling people and drugs into our country. We must face them head on to keep violence from spilling over into Arizona. No discussion of immigration reform is possible without first addressing real border security.

In addition to stemming the flow of undocumented workers at the border, we need to crack down on employers who knowingly hire illegal immigrants. These employers provide direct incentive to violate our border and alter the job market for all Americans. Our current economic climate makes it more important than ever that no American should be denied a job in favor of an underpaid, illegal immigrant.

http://www.hulburdforcongress.com/issues/Immigration

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@mysteryman,

mysteryman wrote:

But both the Ca law and the Az law are essentially the same.

This makes me wonder if we inhabit the same universe. The laws are significantly different, since the California statute applies to a) cooperating with federal authorities and b) people who are actually, ya know, arrested. Not everyone who comes into "lawful contact" with the police, like the Arizona law.

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@DrewDad,

I agree, but that is the only difference I see in the laws.
And to me, that is a difference that doesnt matter.

If the Az law also said arrested, would you and others still have a problem with it?

Either way, the AZ law is simply giving the officials there the power to enforce federal law.
If it loses when and if its challenged in court, thats fine.

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@mysteryman,

Quote:

If the Az law also said arrested, would you and others still have a problem with it?

Wasn't Arizona's law similar to California's before this new law screwed things up? (The obvious question that if they were so similar, why did the Republicans go pass a new law that so many of us feel is racist).

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